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06-24-2013, 11:44 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Long Beach, Ca, U.S.A
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| Neutering At 3 years old???? Hello Everyone! So i really need everyone's opinion because i recently took my 3 years ols yorkie to the vet because he has really and i mean REALLY bad breath. The vet suggested I Should have him get a deep cleaning but this time put him under anesthesia to have x rays done and they can have a really good look at his teeth. He also suggested that since he has not been neutered yet, that maybe i should just neuter him at the same time.... I'm scared. I'm scared of putting him under and i'm scared his personality is going to change or that i might see a huge difference in his behavior because of his age. Is neutering really the BEST thing to do?
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06-24-2013, 11:49 AM | #2 |
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| There is no way i would do a dental and a neuter together i would npt want them under anesthesia that long
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06-24-2013, 11:51 AM | #3 |
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| My Sammy was about 4 years old and had surgery because he had eaten something plastic and had an obstruction. The vets office called and asked me since he was going under anesthesia did I want to have him neutered. So I told them that if the vet thought he could handle it, go ahead and do it. I too was afraid to have him neutered. Well, it did not change his personality or anything about him. He was still an active, funny little love bug that he had always been. So if your vet advises it, go ahead and do it. It is healthier for the dogs too. Sammy lived to be 13 years old. |
06-24-2013, 11:56 AM | #4 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | I hope someone can link thethread when to spay and if ever? I too would not do a major dental with a neuter This is a decision you and your vet need to talk over together. Once you have done some reading up on this My understanding of behavioural changes is that the evidence so far is equivocal That is there could be some positive but also some negative behavioural changes
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06-24-2013, 12:06 PM | #5 |
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| I trust my Vet explicitly, and if she suggested it.. I would do it. I don't like the idea of putting them under twice, so personally I prefer getting it done at once. Have a good heart to heart with your Vet, as only you can make the decision best for you. As far as personality, I've only seen positives from neutering. |
06-24-2013, 12:44 PM | #6 |
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| Here is a article that discusses the pros and cons of spaying and neutering. http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongT...uterInDogs.pdf
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06-24-2013, 01:53 PM | #7 |
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| My vet does dentals and neuters at the same time all of the time. We just had one done and he was a tiny one. ... and he lost 14 teeth. He was fine. Neuters are not that big of a surgery.
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06-24-2013, 01:56 PM | #8 |
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| All of my pups are altered and they live together for the most part peacefully. They are sweet and lovable and I don't see any ill effects from their having been altered. None of them were young puppies when altered.
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06-24-2013, 03:23 PM | #9 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...n-if-ever.html Here is the link to the thread I was talking about. It in turn has other links to articles about spaying and neutering. The question you need to be clear in your mind is ... why neuter him now? Just because the vet mentioned it? Those articles indicate there is no overweening health benefit to neutering most males. How-ever your boy is a mature adult, whose growth plates has closed, and that is an important point. You appear to not want any behavior benefit from neutering. Your concern is in main will it change his behaviour that I have grown to love? There are not a lot of research articles or studies that talk about and have studied in depth neutering of males, vs a vs behaviour alone in mature males. But from what adjunctly other studies have not "noted" is any significant perceived behavioural changes in the adult male. More neutral in terms of behaviour. So if you want to neuter an adult male to "cure" aggression, or roaming, or marking, or humping..... that is at best a 50/50 proposition. The chances are pretty good that neutering your male if the surgery is done well should be neutral in terms of his personality. If there are no other health concerns that would push you to neutering your male, for example like an undescended testicles, or other as yet un mentioned health concerns. Then the question is really and truly, will you be a responsible male owner, and insure that he doesn't roam? Is not allowed to mate ever?
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06-25-2013, 05:01 AM | #10 |
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| We adopted our rescue-baby Logan last year when he was 3 years old. He came to us intact with a REALLY bad habit of marking indoors. We had him neutered because it's the responsible thing to do. There are so many unwanted dogs in shelters getting euthanized, and we didn't want to contribute to that. We don't have a female dog in the house, but we didn't want to take a chance, because you just never know. Dogs go to the groomer and they go to doggy parks and there are lots of irresponsible people out there just in general. The park where we walk our boys is definitely a dog-happy place. I'm not sure WHY he wasn't neutered before he came to us... maybe they were planning to breed him? It suspect it was because he had "Cryptorchidism" - where one of his testicles was basically inside his body. So technically, Logan had to get spayed AND neutered Which ended up being kind of an expensive proposition...But breeding him would have been really irresponsible, because that's a defect that can be passed on. So I'm glad he came to us, instead of falling in the hands of some unscrupulous backyard breeder. I grilled the vet pre-surgery and asked all the right questions. You should do the same. It makes you rest a little easier while they're doing the procedure, knowing that your baby is in the hands of an expert. I will say... Logan came home from the vet after his surgery and it was almost like someone waved a magic wand. NO more marking. His personality did NOT change, though. He was still the same snuggle-faced little bug. So for us, it was the best decision. It's definitely something for you to consider. |
06-25-2013, 07:06 AM | #11 |
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| Neutering does not detrimentally change their personality they become better pets. Neutering and dentals at the same time is not a big deal as neutering is not invasive as a spay is. Growth plate issues are not an issue in small breeds of dogs, they do not grow into gangly tall dogs unless their genetics says to do so. Spay or neuter at 3 months has been found not to be much of a problem in toys but I do not recommend doing the spay or neuter until at least 6 months of age. Risks if you don't neuter is testicular cancer, prostate cancer, bladder issues, and even increase risk of rectal cancer. Unneutered males in a breeding program that is used for breeding don't seem to have these issues but an unaltered male should not be in a breeding program unless it is registered with a bona fide registry, has championships, meets the breed standard and especially for a male, be very outstanding for its breed. Otherwise neuter and enjoy your pet which is what you likely wanted, just a nice pet. |
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06-25-2013, 08:38 AM | #14 |
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| We are getting ready to neuter our dog on July 5. He is so crazy and he is marking every corner of our home. I was really hoping that he would calm down because he is just too wild. He humps our little shih tzu all day and doesn't give him a break. The vet said usually their personality doesn't change just his habits. Well one out of two is good. By the way my shih tzu is a male also. He also tries to hump our basset hound's head. |
06-25-2013, 09:29 AM | #15 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Northumberland, UK
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| Our family have ALWAYS neutered all our cats and dogs, boys and girls, and never had a single problem Cats are always done around 5 months before they start coming into season but I do prefer my bitches to have had a season and the boys to be a year old before getting them done. ALL have retained their loving sloppy affectionate natures and lived to ripe old ages well into their teens My first yorkie Scamp and our crossbreed Lady both lived to be 17 years old and our two Jack Russells Buster & Heidi were 7.5 (he was diabetic) and 15 respectively The cats have varied from 13 up to 19 years of age Have a chat with your vet and TELL him about your worries....he won't think you're being silly or over-protective, just a caring owner who wants the best for their dog |
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