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02-24-2013, 09:58 AM | #1 |
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| Satin Balls I was wondering if satin balls are safe for pregnant/ nursing dogs. My sister found a dog that looks like she is due soon but she's underweight. If they are safe for pregnant dogs, will they help with milk production for the puppies? And what is a good recipe for them? |
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02-24-2013, 10:10 AM | #2 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | The recipes have a lot of ingredients that are iffy. I would be concerned with raw eggs and also molasses because it's really horrible for your teeth. Also, I think it's too high in fat for a Yorkie, you use the high fat hamburger then add more oil. I've heard good breeders say that they feed a high quality puppy food to mother because it's higher in calories. The herb fenugreek is said to increase milk supply. Can the herb fenugreek increase a mom's milk supply? | BabyCenter Here's a thread with a recipe for Satin Balls, but I've heard it mainly for male dogs who have lost weight because they are around females in heat. It's really difficult to keep the weight on some male dogs. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...one-heard.html You might want to have the moderator (Wylie's Mom) or (JMuedog) switch your thread to the breeding forum. Hope it goes well for your sister and I hope she's under the care of a vet.
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02-24-2013, 10:43 AM | #3 |
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| Does having them on a feeding schedule help them gain weight? Because my yorkie is only 4 and a half pounds and I wanted to put weight on her so I put her on blue buffalo wilderness over a month ago and she hasn't gained even a half a pound. Also I was concerned that just putting my sisters dog on higher calorie food wouldn't help her gain weight fast enough for the puppies. I've also read that you shouldn't put a pregnant dog on puppy food because you don't want to increase the calcium intake till after the puppies are born because then the mother would have issues producing enough milk for the puppies. |
02-24-2013, 10:56 AM | #4 | |
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"Over-supplementation of calcium during pregnancy may increase the risk of eclampsia. There is a complex way the body maintains the proper amount of calcium in the blood. The body is constantly adding calcium to bones and then removing it, as needed. This is regulated by a hormone produced by the parathyroid gland, called parathyroid hormone. If a dog receives increased amounts of calcium during pregnancy, her body's production of parathyroid hormone greatly decreases. When the dog suddenly needs large amounts of calcium for milk production, the system is not ready to start removing it from the bone. This is because it takes some time for the parathyroid gland to start producing the hormone again. Because of the lack in parathyroid hormone, the blood calcium level suddenly drops, and produces the signs of eclampsia. So, adequate amounts of calcium need to be given during pregnancy, but not enough to slow down the production of parathyroid hormone. This means calcium supplements are generally not recommended. Also, it is important for the calcium and phosphorus in the diet to be at the correct ratio of 1:1 (i.e.; 1 part calcium to 1 part phosphorus). Vitamin D must also be present in adequate amounts. " Eclampsia (Puerperal Tetany, Milk Fever, Hypocalcemia) in Dogs Puppy foods are usually higher in protein and higher in fat, but have a quality puppy food will have a controlled amount of calcium and phosphorus in a balanced ratio. Has your sister taken the dog to the vet? Sometimes, a spay is suggested for the health of the dog.
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02-24-2013, 11:04 AM | #5 |
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| When i was raising puppies i always fed my expectant moms puppy food and with very good results for both always very happy & healthy
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02-24-2013, 12:00 PM | #6 |
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| Thank you, I misunderstood the calcium intake thing. So puppy food is safe for pregnant dogs but you shouldn't give them calcium supplements till after the puppies are born. We thought that she was too far along to be spayed. But she has an appointment with the vet this week. I'd like to breed my Yorkie at some point she's past two but I want her to have some obedience titles before I do so. I also need to have my vet do an exam on her and research a little more into breeding. I'd like to become a professional Yorkie breeder in the future to better the breed. Will schedule feeding get our dogs to eat more? Both my sister and I leave the food down at all times and my dog doesn't eat much. My sisters dog scarfs food, but that's probably because she found her. |
02-24-2013, 12:09 PM | #7 |
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| I read that you can have a pregnant dog on puppy food until about 10-14 days before she's due. Then put her back on it after the puppies are born. |
02-24-2013, 12:37 PM | #8 | |
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02-24-2013, 04:10 PM | #9 |
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| Thank you very much for these references, they are very helpful. I intend to go to shows and find my own stud and a better female and the girl I have now I will spay and keep as a pet only. I am pretty sure she is not show quality but her temperament is fantastic and she is a very quick study. |
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02-26-2013, 11:23 AM | #11 |
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| Scheduled feeding will definitely help her put on weight. You can't really monitor how much she eats if you're free feeding and this becomes extremely important when she has a litter of thirsty puppies depending on her to eat. I feed raw and I usually feed once a day, but I started increasing to twice a day when she was about half way through her pregnancy. As her uterus grows with the puppies, her tummies has less space to expand into and she can't eat as much at any given time. By the time the puppies are four weeks old, I feed four or five times a day. Don't supplement with anything except folic acid until after the puppies are born. Chicken livers are a great source of folic acid and it prevents cleft palates and other spinal defects. Feed the best puppy food you can afford (Orijen or something grain-free would be great) and make sure she eats.
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