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Old 01-19-2012, 08:00 PM   #1
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As I said it has been 10 years since we had a puppy so I don't remember a lot of details but it seems like the Vet has me coming in for a lot of shots and something he sticks up her nose plus ear drops and other things. I don't get out of there for less than 75 to 120 dollars. I don't mind if it is in her best interest but we have been in 3 times since we got her and have two more apts. scheduled. I need to read what he has done and check the information on here. BJ is not exposed to other animals maybe my sons dogs when she gets bigger but they weigh 12 lbs and she only weight 1lb 9 ounces. I want her for my companion, she is all I have now. Any help or suggestions are appreciated. I read everything I can on here.
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The main thing I would be concerned is over vaccinating at this time. Read up here on YT about vaccination protocol so you know what vaccinations your baby needs, core & non core so that you can make an informed decision on the ones You want your pup to have. The ear drops may be for mites & if she has mites then you deff want to get rid of them. If they are for infection the same applies.Welcome to YT ! Congratulations on your new pup.
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Welcome and congrats on your new baby. Here is the link to vaccine protocol info:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-overview.html


Also, I would advise you to make sure your vet is telling you exactly what shots they are giving at the time you are in the office. Don't wait until afterwards to read what they gave. That way you can be proactive and invloved in the vaccine decisions for your baby. What he put up her nose was probably bordetello, and you need to decide whether or not your baby needs that as well. Good links in the above section. Take the time to read it would be beneficial.

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Old 01-21-2012, 09:40 PM   #4
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[QUOTE=lillymae;3798972]The main thing I would be concerned is over vaccinating at this time. Read up here on YT about vaccination protocol so you know what vaccinations your baby needs, core & non core so that you can make an informed decision on the ones You want your pup to have. The ear drops may be for mites & if she has mites then you deff want to get rid of them. If they are for infection the same applies.Welcome to YT ! Congratulations on your new pup.[/QUOTE
Thanks, when we got her on 12/20/12 she weighed l lb. 5 ounces took her to vet 1/18/12 she weighed 1 lb 9 ounces. Her ears are fine now he said. She was so small the breeder only gave her 1/2 her shot so vet gave her shots she needed first visit. They gave me a card with what shots were given and ones left. Only two more visits, then once a year. Oh we have used this Vet for our Doberman we had 16 years, our yorkie we just lost from cancer at 10 years. I didn't want another dog but I lost my husband October 25, 2012 and my little Dee Dee after that. My son said I needed company and something to keep me busy.
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I am so sorry for the loss of your husband & you fur baby. I do urge you to check out the vaccination protocol though as things have changed & pups no longer need vaccinations yearly & there are vacs that are Not needed at all that just are not safe for our babies.
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Yearly vaccinations are no longer recommended. The AAHA recommends every 3 years but even that its too often. The only one required by law is rabies.

If a dog gets DHPP, for example, at 1 year old (or even their puppy vaccines) they are typically immune for life. Sometimes you may have to re-booster once in the dogs life but certainly not every year, or even every 3 years. I will most likely titer Jackson later this year to see how much adequate response he still has to the vaccines he received in the past... but there is no reason to believe that vaccinations do not last for the life of the dog. Duration of immunity studies are proving that to be true.

But your dog is not ANY more protected getting vaccines every year than if they got them every 3 years for example. Because it's the SAME exact vaccine. There is no difference between "1 year" or "3 year" or whatever. So getting your dogs vaccinated every year is not protecting them in any way and all you are doing is adding unnecessary chemicals into their body year after year.

The thing is, a lot of vets don't want to give up that money they get from yearly vaccines. Let's face it - most dog owners wouldn't want to fork up the dough to get titers and a majority of people ONLY take their dogs to the vet when they need vaccines. Of course a lot are going to continue recommending yearly. Now, an owner like me, I'll be at the vet at least once a year anyways for annual check-ups, bloodwork, etc so they'll still get their money from me. But an average owner... does not do this. So they are also concerned for pets wellbeing because, like I said, a lot of dogs wouldn't be getting check-ups every year either.

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Consider this… One dose of rabies vaccine costs the vet about 61 cents. The client is typically charged between $15 and $38, plus a $35 office visit. The markup on the vaccine alone is 2,400 percent to 6,200 percent—a markup equivalent to charging $217 for a loaf of bread. According to one estimate, removing the one-year rabies vaccination and consequential office visit for dogs alone would decrease the average small vet’s income from $87,000 to $25,000—and this doesn’t include cats or other vaccinations.

According to James Schwartz, author of Trust Me, I’m Not a Veterinarian, 63 percent of canine and 70 percent of feline vet office visits are for vaccinations. Clearly, radically changing the vaccine schedule for dogs and cats would result in a huge economic loss for any veterinary practice that is built around shots. And chances are the vaccines you are paying so much for are creating even more income for vets, because the adverse reactions and other medical issues caused by the vaccines keep Fluffy coming back often!

Veterinary vaccine sales amounted to more than $3.2 million in 2004 and have risen 7 percent per year since 2000. This figure is projected to exceed $4 billion in 2009. Six companies account for more than 70percent of world veterinary vaccine sales. The market leader is Intervet, with sales of almost $600 million in 2004. That’s a whole lot of 61-cent vaccines. The United States has by far the largest share of the national market with revenues of $935 million, and Japan comes in second with $236 million.
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/petvacc.htm

The latest scientific research proves that after the first course of injections as a puppy most dogs are immune against these diseases for at least seven years, if not for life. I don't see why anyone would think vaccinating every year is necessary in any shape or form.

Here's some good reads:
Science of Vaccine Damage
Age and long-term protective immunity in dogs ... [J Comp Pathol. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI

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The present study examines the DOI for core viral vaccines in dogs that had not been revaccinated for as long as 9 years. These animals had serum antibody to canine distemper virus (CDV), canine parvovirus type 2 (CPV-2) and canine adenovirus type-1 (CAV-1) at levels considered protective and when challenged with these viruses, the dogs resisted infection and/or disease. Thus, even a single dose of modified live virus (MLV) canine core vaccines (against CDV, cav-2 and cpv-2) or MLV feline core vaccines (against feline parvovirus [FPV], feline calicivirus [FCV] and feline herpesvirus [FHV]), when administered at 16 weeks or older, could provide long-term immunity in a very high percentage of animals, while also increasing herd immunity.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:39 PM   #7
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Thank you for the post. I guess since i just lost my husband and my yorkie one month later, I am scared. Bj is a typical house dog, lap dog, and Mommy's girl. I don't let her out, too cold and she uses pads. I don't take her around other dogs other than my sons and they both have had all their shots. She is perfectly content to lay on the bed with me, play with her toys and go in the car with me. I take her everywhere. Warm the car up, stick her in my jacket and zip it. She sticks her little head out. I took her in Home Depot the other day. I told them if they wanted me to leave I would but she would not be getting down. They said fine. I only leave her when I go to grocery or stores i cannot take her in. She loves going thru drive thrus. She is all I have now. My vet said I have to make up my mind what kind of heart pills I want by the end of the month, to be given once a month. One is more expensive than the other. i am lost on that. We just bought a box of Interceptor for Dee Dee and gave her one tablet a month. Any advice appreciated.
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