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10-31-2011, 03:47 AM | #1 |
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| 2011 AAHA Vaccine Guidelines 2011 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines https://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocume...Guidelines.pdf p. 3 "When compared with infectious (attenuated, avirulent, modified live, recombinant viral vectored) vaccines, noninfectious vaccines are more likely to produce local and systemic adverse reactions in some dogs." p.10 "Most noninfectious vaccines require at least two initial doses to immunize, regardless of the dog's age. The first does of a noninfectious vaccine generally primes the immune response and the second dose, which should be administered 2-6 weeks later, provides the protective immune response. Immunity typically develops approximately 7 days after the second dose. Therefore, the minimum time for onset of immunity is approximately 3 wk after administration of the first dose of a noninfectious vaccine" p. 12 "Because dogs older than 14-16 wk of age are not likely to have interfering levels of MDA [maternally derived antibodies], administration of a single initial dose of an infectious vaccine to an adult dog can be expected to induce a protective immune response. ..... MDA is the most common reason early vaccination fails to immunize." p. 12 "The onset of immunity after administration of a single dose of infectious core vaccine is approximately 4+3 days in the absence of MDA [maternally derived antibodies]." p.13 "Infectious core vaccines are not only highly effective, they also provide the longest DOI [duration of immunity], extending from 5 yr up to the life of the dog." p. 17 "Despite the confusion and controversy surrounding antibody testing, these serologic tests are useful for monitoring immunity to CDV, CPV-2, CAV-1, and RV. .....On completion of the puppy core vaccination series with the last dose given at 14-16 wk of age, a dog can be expected to have an antibody titer or positive test result, regardless of the serologic test performed, provided the serum sample is collected > 2 wk after the last dose of vaccine." (CDV=distemper, CPV-2 = parvovirus, CAV-1 hepatitis, RV= rabies) p. 18 "....the last dose of CDV and CPV should be administered at 14-16 wk of age. At this age, MDA should be at a level that will not block active immunity in most puppies (>98%) when a combination MLV vaccine is administered." p. 18 "In a study reported in 1997, dogs vaccinated with a product containing CDV (canine distemper virus) and then placed in an environment without CDV maintained antibody titers for at least 10 yr." p. 20 "...the list that follows includes categories of adverse reactions that have been attributed to vaccine administration. -Injection-site reactions: lumps (abscess, granuloma, seroma), pain, swelling, hair loss associated with ischemic vasculitis -Transient postvaccinal nonspecific illness: lethargy, anorexia, fever, regional lymphadenomegaly, soreness, abortion, encephalitis, polyneuritis, arthritis, seizures, behavioral changes, hair loss or color change at the injection site, respiratory disease -Allergic (hypersensitivity) and immune-mediated reactions: Type 1 (acute anaphylaxis): angiodema (especially the head), anaphylaxis (shock) and death Type 2 (cytolytic): immune-mediated hemolytic anemia, immune-mediated thrombocytopenia (suspected only; causality has not been confirmed) Type 3 (immune-complex): cutaneous ischemic vasculopathy associated with rabies vaccine, corneal edema ('blue-eye') associated with CAV-1 vaccine, immune-mediated disease. -Tumorigenesis: vaccine-associated sarcoma or other tumors Multisystemic infectious/inflammatory disorder of young Weimaraner dogs: may be genetically linked to both a poorly characterized immunodeficiency and to autoimmune disorders (e.g., hypothyroidism and hypertrophic osteodystrophy [HOD] that are detected shortly after vaccination -Vaccine-induced immunosuppression: associated with first or second dose of combination MLV vaccines containing CDV and CAV-1 or CAV-2 with or without other vaccines (e.g., CPV-2, CPI). Immunosuppression begins 3 days after vaccination and persists for 7-10 days. The suppression may be associated with increased susceptibility to other diseases. p. 21 "It is reasonable to avoid administration of any vaccine to patients with a history of systemic disease suspected to be associated with previous vaccination (e.g., immune-mediated hemolytic anemia, immune-mediated thrombocytopenia) or known to be caused by vaccine (vaccination-site cutaneous ischemic vasculitis after administration of rabies vaccine). p. 28 "As with pregnant dogs, veterinary medicine has advised against vaccination during illness, due to concerns about suboptimal protection, or worse, vaccine-induced illness." p. 29 "Manufacturers only recommend administration of vaccine to healthy dogs. Dogs receiving immunosuppressive chemotherapy should not be vaccinated. Doing so may result in a suboptimal immune response or may aggravate (reactivate) an immune-mediated illness." p.33 "Vaccine adverse events are significantly underreported in veterinary medicine." p. 34 "The vaccination protocol that includes the minimum number of vaccines yet still provides a reasonable opportunity to immunize the dog would be: a single dose of combined infectious (attenuated, avirulent, modified live, recombinant viral vectored) CDV, MLV CPV-2, with MLV CAV-2, administered at 16 wk of age or older, plus a rabies shot at the same time (but inoculated at a separate site on the body)."
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10-31-2011, 05:28 AM | #2 |
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10-31-2011, 10:44 AM | #3 |
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| Would anyone care to share what they have decided? Which ones to get - and how often? I will read the new report, but frankly feel overwhelmed at making sure I don't over vaccinate our new pup (we are picking him up on Saturday!!!) I found this piece of info info in the sticky section, so I'm assuming I would only go with the required. I will also be checking with the my breeder's recommendation - but the last time I had a yorkie, it was every three years - and my vet did a smaller dose. I remember back then (years ago) that many vets did the same dose for a yorkie vs. a 20 # dog and that was a concern then. CORE Vaccines for a canine (should be given to all [COLOR=green !important][COLOR=green !important]dogs[/COLOR][/COLOR], unless a medical condition warrants otherwise): *Distemper *Hepatitis *Parvovirus *Rabies NON-CORE Vaccines for a canine (should be given only when a dog has risk factors for the disease which exceed the risk of the vaccine): *Corona *Leptospirosis *Lyme *Bordatella *Giardia *Parainfluenza Thank you for posting this and thank you to Wylie's mom for posting the other posts! |
10-31-2011, 11:02 AM | #4 |
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| My Yorkie is done with all vaccines for life except rabies (which is every 3 years) unless I decide to do another DHPP, but that's doubtful. This is after a ton of contemplation, discussions with her vet, etc. We stopped at about age 6. But she is a very sensitive girl and I don't want her to have to process any of this stuff. We are taking a bit of a risk stopping though (she had a low-ish distemper titer last time we checked). OR maybe we'll decide to do another distemper sometime..if the mood hits us. lol. I'd strongly consider lepto except it almost killed her last time she had it. My other dog will be on the every 3 year schedule for rabies and DHPP. He will receive lepto single annually for now. Not doing bordetella. In a few years, we may stop the DHPP. Dunno yet. We don't do corona, giardia, dental, or canine flu at all. If we did bordetella, it would probably be the injectable. And we would have to be at extremely high risk for lyme for me to even consider that one. We are at high lepto risk in Michigan. Full doses are given. I don't believe in partial doses right now. They aren't all given in one day, but they are also not all split up either.
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11-01-2011, 04:09 AM | #5 |
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11-01-2011, 05:32 AM | #6 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Very interesting, thanks! So -- p.10 "Most noninfectious vaccines require at least two initial doses to immunize, regardless of the dog's age. The first does of a noninfectious vaccine generally primes the immune response and the second dose, which should be administered 2-6 weeks later, provides the protective immune response. Immunity typically develops approximately 7 days after the second dose. Therefore, the minimum time for onset of immunity is approximately 3 wk after administration of the first dose of a noninfectious vaccine" p. 12 "Because dogs older than 14-16 wk of age are not likely to have interfering levels of MDA [maternally derived antibodies], administration of a single initial dose of an infectious vaccine to an adult dog can be expected to induce a protective immune response. ..... MDA is the most common reason early vaccination fails to immunize." ....looking at these 2 items, what would be preferred? I mean, people could still do young pup vaccines -- or, they could wait for all vax until 16wks when the MDA is gone (which on the face of it, I'd prefer, personally). Does Schultz or anyone lean one way or another? Or is it based on safety of individual pups' environment etc?
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11-01-2011, 06:55 AM | #7 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | Given a choice I would prefer pups not be vaccinated until the later 14-16 weeks age. Of course then a breeder would have to hold the pups until 16-20 weeks or so until the onset of immunity, which wouldn't set well with potential puppy buyers or most breeders. Thank you Kris for keeping us updated on vaccine protocol news.
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11-17-2011, 04:21 AM | #8 |
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| Analyzing New Vaccination Recommendations for Dogs, by Jan Rasmusen 11/15/11 AAHA Canine Vaccination Guidelines: A Closer Look | Truth4Dogs
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11-20-2011, 04:30 PM | #9 |
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| I haven't necessarily decided what I am doing yet. Jackson had his puppy shots at 8, 12 and 16 weeks (then rabies at a separate time). Then got the DHPP booster and rabies, on different days, at 1 year old. Vet said they are good for 3 years. So technically he's due in one year... he will get rabies because it's the law and I will continue giving bordatella because he's gotten kennel cough twice and it's just annoying and with the vaccine, he doesn't seem to get it. So it's worth it for our lifestyle. But I simply can't decide if I'm going to do DHPP again or not. I am thinking I may do it one more time (so he'll get it at 4yrs old) but then never again for life.
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11-21-2011, 04:01 PM | #10 |
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| Britster, personally, if Jackson were my dog, I would never vaccinate him again except for rabies.
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11-21-2011, 04:40 PM | #11 |
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| Thank you so much for taking the time to post this information with excerpts. Bella and Tillie were approx 2.5yrs when they joined our family, and their shot records indicate they were up-to-date on all the necessary vaccines. I will continue Rabies (bc it is law), but am putting off getting the others.
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