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imdll · 10-26-2011, 01:53 PM

Sorry this is a bit long and drawn out. . .

My little dog Lu is a yorkie/maltese. She will be two in December but I have only had her since this past April (Easter). She is tiny, just under 3.5 lbs but generally in good health and we are not aware of any allergies or other health concerns either previously or current.

When I first got Lu she went on a bit of a hunger strike as she mourned the loss of her former home. They took very good care of her from a Vet or health care standpoint but the food she was eating wasn't really great. It was some cheap grocery store Purina something or other. Anyway, I hadn't planned on changing her food right away as I figured she had enough changes and that could wait until she got settled in. However due to Lu's decision to quit eating after we brought her home we tried to entice her with pretty much everything under the sun. We had samples of all sorts of high quality dog food and she wouldn't consider any of them. We even tried fresh roasted turkey from our supper and that was also a no go. Lu would eat a kibble or two if we held them in our hand and after much coaxing but that was about it. I was weighing her every day to make sure she wasn't withering away and was about to take her to the vet when she decided the food we had out for our other dogs was what she wanted to eat. We feed our other dogs Acana regular adult in the blue bag. I thought it might be too big for her but wasn't going to argue with success!

At first I was concerned that a quick change like that would seriously upset her system but there seemed to be no adverse issues at all. Her stool was firm and she was eating well.

About three weeks ago I took her to the Vet for a check up and for her shots including rabies and to be microchipped. Up until about a week ago there didn't seem to be any issues with that either. But now every now and again Lu gags and throws up a tiny bit of bile as though her stomach is empty. She doesn’t retch and retch she just gags and throws up a small amount of bile. This doesn't happen often but has happened a few times in the past week or so. Last week she had a gagging bout a couple times in the same evening and then the next day she didn’t seem like she felt entirely well but didn't seem entirely sick just maybe a bit off and then the next day she did seem sick and she wasn't eating or drinking much if anything and her stool was crazy mucousy and sometimes nothing but clear gloppy thick mucous. Sometimes there was a little bit of fresh blood. I read about that and the stuff I read said that it could be worms or some lower intestinal thing and that if it persisted for more than a couple of days to go to the Vet. (Lu was de-wormed a couple of months ago so it shouldn’t be worms I wouldn’t think.) I was watching her very closely and was going to call the Vet the next morning to make an appointment and the next morning everything was fine. Lu's stool was firm again and she was eating and playing like nothing happened. Now today she gagged and threw up a tiny bit of bile again? She hasn't had a bowel movement so I don't know what her stool is like yet but she was running around and playing earlier today. . . What the heck?

There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to what is going on. Has anyone else had something like this occur with their dog? Could this be a stress reaction? I trimmed her nails yesterday and she seems to think she might die every time I trim them and shakes terribly but that still seems a bit unusual since she didn’t get sick after the Vet trip or when we first got her. I’m certainly open to suggestions or thoughts on the matter.

LuvTaycieGirl · 10-27-2011, 07:48 AM

She needs to be seen by a vet ASAP. Blood in stool could be a sign of MANY problems. It's best not to self diagnose and see a vet for GI issues.

imdll · 10-27-2011, 09:14 AM

My initial concern had been that it could be serious but apparently it can also be nothing. I was going to take her into the Vet the next morning. The really globy mucous etc. was in the evening and then a little bit of blood in her stool showed up just before bed. I got on the internet to see if I should immediately get in touch with the Vet and discovered that “one occurrence of hematochezia may be a minor and transient event. Repeated or persistent hematochezia is more serious and should not be ignored.” Since it had never happened before and there was only a small amount of blood and even though Lu wasn’t really eating and seemed like she didn’t feel well she didn’t seem dangerously ill, if that makes sense. I decided unless something changed and it became apparent her health was deteriorating I would wait until morning and call the Vet then. By the next morning all her symptoms had disappeared. No symptoms, not much to test or investigate unless it recurs.

http://www.petplace.com/dogs/hematoc...ogs/page1.aspx

I was worried last night maybe the same pattern was beginning and that the gagging and throwing up a little bit of bile might be Lu getting sick again but she ate and drank fine last night, played, went crazy (zoomies) and her bowels have been normal. This morning she still seems perfectly fine. If I thought it was something more serious or if the globy mucous or blood comes back I will certainly take Lu into the Vet but there isn’t much point right now.

That is why I thought I would ask if anyone else had experienced anything like this and what made me wonder if it could be stress related or some kind of late reaction to her vaccinations.

Taryn0405 · 10-27-2011, 11:27 AM

Reactions from getting her shots should not be causing the blood in vomit and or stool. Like the other poster, I think you she also be getting her to the vet.

With her size, she could go down hill very quickly, even with her acting normal for the past 24 hours.

imdll · 10-27-2011, 03:09 PM

I hope people are not misunderstanding. The scary episode with all the symptoms was last week. Lulu didn't have blood in her vomit only bile and she didn't have some sort of violent vomiting episode or something like that, she gagged a little bit and threw up a little bit of bile which would indicate her stomach must have been empty at the time.

Yes there was some blood (read a little bit of blood) in the mucous or on the outside of her stool when there was stool later that evening. If you read about these sorts of incidents you discover that it can happen and is not cause for alarm as long as it is not something that lasts or repeats.

Taking Lu to the vet when she no longer has symptoms is like taking your child to the doctor when they had a fever yesterday but are fine today and are running around playing like nothing happened. What would you like the doctor or vet to do when symptoms are not currently present and only lasted for a short period of time? From what I have been reading the time to become concerned is if she does it again, which is why I was concerned last night but then nothing further developed.

It's not necessary to run to the vet or the doctor for every little thing. If there had been anything in what I read or in Lu's current health that indicated this was something to be immediately checked out then that is what I would do.

I did feel a twinge of panic last night when I thought she might be starting up the same cycle because that would definitely indicate she needs to be seen by a vet and that it could possibly be something more serious. My twinge of panic was apparently for nothing as no other symptoms returned and Lu ate fine, played, raced around like a crazy woman (zoomies) and her bowel movements were normal last night and this has continued throughout today.

I was simply asking if anyone here had experienced something similar with their dog and if they found it to be stress related. (ie. like maybe something like irritable bowel etc.)

As far as the possibility of it being from her shots, while it is remote I have come across articles where dogs have had unusual reactions several weeks after receiving their shots. Apparently it can take time for a dog's immune system to react sometimes.

I hope how I described things earlier did not have people worried that I was being irresponsible or that I was unaware that such symptoms could indicates a serious health issue. I assure you this is not the case.

Taryn0405 · 10-27-2011, 03:26 PM

I read through both your posts. And I understand that this (the blood in the poop) was a one time occurance. And that you're also looking for someone that has experienced this.

What we're trying to say is yes, many of us have or have been around others that have experienced this. And our advice would be to take the dog to the vet. If I saw blood in Gizmo's stool, he'd be off to the vet. Reactions to shots can in fact range from itching at the injection site, to seizures. Just like blood int he stool can range from a cut on the rectum, to kidney failure.

I see that you compare it to a child having a fever the day before. Well, let's now compare your actual situation to a child. If your child was pooping out blood, would to not take them to the doctor? I hope to God you would.

So I guess what I'm saying from experience and from having a dog with GI issues, it would be best for a dog to go to the vet to rule out anything bad to ensure this is in fact a one time occurance.

LuvTaycieGirl · 10-27-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Taryn0405

I read through both your posts. And I understand that this (the blood in the poop) was a one time occurance. And that you're also looking for someone that has experienced this.

What we're trying to say is yes, many of us have or have been around others that have experienced this. And our advice would be to take the dog to the vet. If I saw blood in Gizmo's stool, he'd be off to the vet. Reactions to shots can in fact range from itching at the injection site, to seizures. Just like blood int he stool can range from a cut on the rectum, to kidney failure.

I see that you compare it to a child having a fever the day before. Well, let's now compare your actual situation to a child. If your child was pooping out blood, would to not take them to the doctor? I hope to God you would.

So I guess what I'm saying from experience and from having a dog with GI issues, it would be best for a dog to go to the vet to rule out anything bad to ensure this is in fact a one time occurance.

Wonderfully said! My Taycie has GI issues. Personally, I don't mess around with GI problems. Blood in stool regardless if it has happened once still needs to be evaluated by a vet. Even if things seem normal now. I wouldn't even be second guessing a trip. I would be going to the vet. Period.

Beamers Mom · 10-27-2011, 04:30 PM

At least call the vet and explain about the blood in the stool!

gidget529 · 10-27-2011, 04:49 PM

The repeated vomiting episodes would concern me, especially given her small size. The smaller yorkies have a higher incidence of congenital problems than the bigger ones. I would take her to the vet for a check. Also, kennel cough produces a "gagging" type presentation with the production of a mucous consistency that can almost resemble bile. I would not trust internet sources to self-diagnose.

It could be a sensitive tummy that needs a prescription diet. It could be an irritable bowel type syndrome. It could be the start of liver shunt rearing its ugly head. The possibilities are too many for someone to diagnose over the internet sight unseen.

Britster · 10-27-2011, 06:07 PM

I am not one to rush to the vet for every little thing. However, I always play better safe than sorry as well. When it comes to vomiting and diarrhea especially. Certain things I just don't think it's smart to wait out. Throwing up once or twice during the day... no I wouldn't rush to the vet. Repeatedly vomiting, and some blood being present, would definitely have me at the vet asap. No question.

As an example, Jackson threw up twice after eating some Beneful food once. I knew it was the food, he did it twice, was fine the next day, did not go to the vet, no puking for a LONG time after that. One night, after getting into WAY too much people food, Jackson began throwing up the next morning. Then an hour later, again. Then a few hours later again. Then he threw up all through the night every hour or so until 5am when there was some blood present. I got him to the vet asap and honestly I probably waited too long. Had I not waited so long, I probably would not have had to pay around $1700 having him hospitalized on IV's, diagnosed with pancreatitis, given subq fluids, blood tests, and all that stuff. I could have avoided, or at least lessened, his suffering had I taken him in earlier on before he vomited through the night.

It's best to know your own dog for sure. I just knew that one night that he was NOT well and it was not just a simple upset tummy throw up (because I also know Jackson does not really have a sensitive stomach). But vomiting that much does not sound normal to me at all. Jackson has only had around three or four throwing up episodes in his life. Only one (the pancreatitis dx) being anything serious. If he was throwing up weekly or even monthly, I'd be concerned.

Good luck -- I hope you take the advice ^^.

Britster · 10-27-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by imdll

I hope people are not misunderstanding. The scary episode with all the symptoms was last week. Lulu didn't have blood in her vomit only bile and she didn't have some sort of violent vomiting episode or something like that, she gagged a little bit and threw up a little bit of bile which would indicate her stomach must have been empty at the time.

Yes there was some blood (read a little bit of blood) in the mucous or on the outside of her stool when there was stool later that evening. If you read about these sorts of incidents you discover that it can happen and is not cause for alarm as long as it is not something that lasts or repeats.

Taking Lu to the vet when she no longer has symptoms is like taking your child to the doctor when they had a fever yesterday but are fine today and are running around playing like nothing happened. What would you like the doctor or vet to do when symptoms are not currently present and only lasted for a short period of time? From what I have been reading the time to become concerned is if she does it again, which is why I was concerned last night but then nothing further developed.

It's not necessary to run to the vet or the doctor for every little thing. If there had been anything in what I read or in Lu's current health that indicated this was something to be immediately checked out then that is what I would do.

I did feel a twinge of panic last night when I thought she might be starting up the same cycle because that would definitely indicate she needs to be seen by a vet and that it could possibly be something more serious. My twinge of panic was apparently for nothing as no other symptoms returned and Lu ate fine, played, raced around like a crazy woman (zoomies) and her bowel movements were normal last night and this has continued throughout today.

I was simply asking if anyone here had experienced something similar with their dog and if they found it to be stress related. (ie. like maybe something like irritable bowel etc.)

As far as the possibility of it being from her shots, while it is remote I have come across articles where dogs have had unusual reactions several weeks after receiving their shots. Apparently it can take time for a dog's immune system to react sometimes.

I hope how I described things earlier did not have people worried that I was being irresponsible or that I was unaware that such symptoms could indicates a serious health issue. I assure you this is not the case.

Just read this post. I do agree with you in that running to the vet for EVERY little thing is not always the right thing to do, nor plausible.

But, to me, blood in throw up or stool is a big enough concern to get to the vet. Even if it's barely anything. That's nothing to take lightly, in humans or animals. And like said above, I can imagine if a parent saw blood in their childs stool one day, but it wasn't there the next... they would STILL take them to the doctor.

When Jackson had supposed-pancreatitis (I say this because the vet never officially gave me a diagnosis in the end, but they did make my little man better, and for that I am grateful), he was actually feeling fine by the next day. Even after all his tummy had went through (bloody stool and bloody vomit) and being in a strange vet on IV's, etc, he came home ready to go and ready to play. But his body still wasn't fully better. Just like when you give a child with a fever some Tylenol and they think they are better and then a few hours later feel worse. It does not mean they are better per say.

I am not here to argue with you or anything because I totally get where you are coming from completely. But I do think this is an issue where you just bring her in.

BabyGirl Rosie · 10-27-2011, 06:31 PM

I have had a similar experience with Rosie. The whole experience is why I ended up joining YT. She was vomiting (just a little, not much at all) and had diarrhea. At first it was just a loose stool and then the mucus stuff appeared. I didn't take her in immediately to the vet. Next came the blood in the stool. By the next morning she was so bad I thought I was going to lose her. I was at my vet crying my eyes out. Lots of vet care later, she has been diagnosed with IBS and has to eat I/D food for her issues.

So, please get your pup to a vet as soon as possible. A very small situation can turn into a bad one very quickly. Dehydration is a major concern. Keep us updated.

Ellie May · 10-27-2011, 06:38 PM

She has been gagging up bile for a week? Is this vomiting or regurgitation?

A couple times of some diarrhea, even with a bit of red blood, wouldn't totally concern me (although that doesn't mean it's ok to skip the vet) unless it kept happening or it was accompanied by other symptoms (and it was). No reason to hold off on a vet. Regurgitation is very unhealthy for them. Her vet needs to know this is going on. They also need to know what was going on with the stool. At the very least, they may want to do a fecal to make sure there are no intestinal parasites present.

BabyGirl Rosie · 10-27-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

She has been gagging up bile for a week? Is this vomiting or regurgitation?

A couple times of some diarrhea, even with a bit of red blood, wouldn't totally concern me (although that doesn't mean it's ok to skip the vet) unless it kept happening or it was accompanied by other symptoms (and it was). No reason to hold off on a vet. Regurgitation is very unhealthy for them. Her vet needs to know this is going on. They also need to know what was going on with the stool. At the very least, they may want to do a fecal to make sure there are no intestinal parasites present.

They did a fecal with Rosie and also blood work. I think the pup needs to be checked out.

kalina82 · 10-27-2011, 08:11 PM

Honestly the tiny bit of blood in the stool wouldn't concern me either if it was just the one time. Dogs sometimes get blood in their stool if they aren't feeling well and its not always a red alert to go to the vet (as a side note, if a cat has blood in its stool that's definitely a sign to go to the vet).

Now on to the gagging and bile. Is she regurgitating or vomiting? Does the bile just come up as if she burped or does it come from her stomach heaving and retching? Do you notice a pattern to this gagging? Is it at a certain time of day? What's the time frame between food and gagging up bile? Is there ever any bit of food in the bile or is it just foamy yellow/white stuff?

Since she's been eating the food since April that wouldn't be the first thing i'd guess was the cause. Has she eaten anything else recently? table scraps, new treats, something outside, poop? Are you using any new cleaning products, laundry detergent, air fresheners? Have there been any changes within the household? Has anything happened to your other dog (s)?

Personally if I was in a similar situation with my dog I'd be watching every little thing that she does. note every time she regurges or vomits and what it is, every time she urinates and deficates and the consistency of it, when she drinks and how much she drinks, and when she eats and how much. Since she is so small you don't want her to regurge/vomit +/- have diarrhea multiple times because she can dehydrate and get very sick very quickly.

Everyone is going to tell you to be safe and take her to the vet because with these little guys you just never know what's going to happen. We are not there to see the situation ourselves so we can only go by what you are telling us, and then tell you what we'd do. You are the one with her and know her best. However, i'm going to assume your other dogs are bigger and that Lulu is your first tiny dog. Just know that while you may be able to wait it out with a bigger dog, its not a good idea to do so with a tiny toy breed.

good luck with Lulu

10-26-2011, 01:53 PM	#1
imdll Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 129	Food? or is it something else?. . . Sorry this is a bit long and drawn out. . . My little dog Lu is a yorkie/maltese. She will be two in December but I have only had her since this past April (Easter). She is tiny, just under 3.5 lbs but generally in good health and we are not aware of any allergies or other health concerns either previously or current. When I first got Lu she went on a bit of a hunger strike as she mourned the loss of her former home. They took very good care of her from a Vet or health care standpoint but the food she was eating wasn't really great. It was some cheap grocery store Purina something or other. Anyway, I hadn't planned on changing her food right away as I figured she had enough changes and that could wait until she got settled in. However due to Lu's decision to quit eating after we brought her home we tried to entice her with pretty much everything under the sun. We had samples of all sorts of high quality dog food and she wouldn't consider any of them. We even tried fresh roasted turkey from our supper and that was also a no go. Lu would eat a kibble or two if we held them in our hand and after much coaxing but that was about it. I was weighing her every day to make sure she wasn't withering away and was about to take her to the vet when she decided the food we had out for our other dogs was what she wanted to eat. We feed our other dogs Acana regular adult in the blue bag. I thought it might be too big for her but wasn't going to argue with success! At first I was concerned that a quick change like that would seriously upset her system but there seemed to be no adverse issues at all. Her stool was firm and she was eating well. About three weeks ago I took her to the Vet for a check up and for her shots including rabies and to be microchipped. Up until about a week ago there didn't seem to be any issues with that either. But now every now and again Lu gags and throws up a tiny bit of bile as though her stomach is empty. She doesn’t retch and retch she just gags and throws up a small amount of bile. This doesn't happen often but has happened a few times in the past week or so. Last week she had a gagging bout a couple times in the same evening and then the next day she didn’t seem like she felt entirely well but didn't seem entirely sick just maybe a bit off and then the next day she did seem sick and she wasn't eating or drinking much if anything and her stool was crazy mucousy and sometimes nothing but clear gloppy thick mucous. Sometimes there was a little bit of fresh blood. I read about that and the stuff I read said that it could be worms or some lower intestinal thing and that if it persisted for more than a couple of days to go to the Vet. (Lu was de-wormed a couple of months ago so it shouldn’t be worms I wouldn’t think.) I was watching her very closely and was going to call the Vet the next morning to make an appointment and the next morning everything was fine. Lu's stool was firm again and she was eating and playing like nothing happened. Now today she gagged and threw up a tiny bit of bile again? She hasn't had a bowel movement so I don't know what her stool is like yet but she was running around and playing earlier today. . . What the heck? There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to what is going on. Has anyone else had something like this occur with their dog? Could this be a stress reaction? I trimmed her nails yesterday and she seems to think she might die every time I trim them and shakes terribly but that still seems a bit unusual since she didn’t get sick after the Vet trip or when we first got her. I’m certainly open to suggestions or thoughts on the matter.

10-27-2011, 07:48 AM	#2
LuvTaycieGirl Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Salt Lake City UT,USA Posts: 2,726 Blog Entries: 1	She needs to be seen by a vet ASAP. Blood in stool could be a sign of MANY problems. It's best not to self diagnose and see a vet for GI issues. __________________ Emily and Taycie Love you little girl

10-27-2011, 09:14 AM	#3
imdll Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 129	My initial concern had been that it could be serious but apparently it can also be nothing. I was going to take her into the Vet the next morning. The really globy mucous etc. was in the evening and then a little bit of blood in her stool showed up just before bed. I got on the internet to see if I should immediately get in touch with the Vet and discovered that “one occurrence of hematochezia may be a minor and transient event. Repeated or persistent hematochezia is more serious and should not be ignored.” Since it had never happened before and there was only a small amount of blood and even though Lu wasn’t really eating and seemed like she didn’t feel well she didn’t seem dangerously ill, if that makes sense. I decided unless something changed and it became apparent her health was deteriorating I would wait until morning and call the Vet then. By the next morning all her symptoms had disappeared. No symptoms, not much to test or investigate unless it recurs. http://www.petplace.com/dogs/hematoc...ogs/page1.aspx I was worried last night maybe the same pattern was beginning and that the gagging and throwing up a little bit of bile might be Lu getting sick again but she ate and drank fine last night, played, went crazy (zoomies) and her bowels have been normal. This morning she still seems perfectly fine. If I thought it was something more serious or if the globy mucous or blood comes back I will certainly take Lu into the Vet but there isn’t much point right now. That is why I thought I would ask if anyone else had experienced anything like this and what made me wonder if it could be stress related or some kind of late reaction to her vaccinations. Last edited by imdll; 10-27-2011 at 09:17 AM.

10-27-2011, 11:27 AM	#4
Taryn0405 Owned by a Gremlin Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The Mitten State! Posts: 3,706	Reactions from getting her shots should not be causing the blood in vomit and or stool. Like the other poster, I think you she also be getting her to the vet. With her size, she could go down hill very quickly, even with her acting normal for the past 24 hours. __________________ Taryn Momma to Gizmo AKA Monkeyman My husband, daughter, son, and dog make me who I am "My goal in life is to be as good of a person my dog already thinks I am."

10-27-2011, 03:09 PM	#5
imdll Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 129	I hope people are not misunderstanding. The scary episode with all the symptoms was last week. Lulu didn't have blood in her vomit only bile and she didn't have some sort of violent vomiting episode or something like that, she gagged a little bit and threw up a little bit of bile which would indicate her stomach must have been empty at the time. Yes there was some blood (read a little bit of blood) in the mucous or on the outside of her stool when there was stool later that evening. If you read about these sorts of incidents you discover that it can happen and is not cause for alarm as long as it is not something that lasts or repeats. Taking Lu to the vet when she no longer has symptoms is like taking your child to the doctor when they had a fever yesterday but are fine today and are running around playing like nothing happened. What would you like the doctor or vet to do when symptoms are not currently present and only lasted for a short period of time? From what I have been reading the time to become concerned is if she does it again, which is why I was concerned last night but then nothing further developed. It's not necessary to run to the vet or the doctor for every little thing. If there had been anything in what I read or in Lu's current health that indicated this was something to be immediately checked out then that is what I would do. I did feel a twinge of panic last night when I thought she might be starting up the same cycle because that would definitely indicate she needs to be seen by a vet and that it could possibly be something more serious. My twinge of panic was apparently for nothing as no other symptoms returned and Lu ate fine, played, raced around like a crazy woman (zoomies) and her bowel movements were normal last night and this has continued throughout today. I was simply asking if anyone here had experienced something similar with their dog and if they found it to be stress related. (ie. like maybe something like irritable bowel etc.) As far as the possibility of it being from her shots, while it is remote I have come across articles where dogs have had unusual reactions several weeks after receiving their shots. Apparently it can take time for a dog's immune system to react sometimes. I hope how I described things earlier did not have people worried that I was being irresponsible or that I was unaware that such symptoms could indicates a serious health issue. I assure you this is not the case. Last edited by imdll; 10-27-2011 at 03:13 PM.

10-27-2011, 03:26 PM	#6
Taryn0405 Owned by a Gremlin Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The Mitten State! Posts: 3,706	I read through both your posts. And I understand that this (the blood in the poop) was a one time occurance. And that you're also looking for someone that has experienced this. What we're trying to say is yes, many of us have or have been around others that have experienced this. And our advice would be to take the dog to the vet. If I saw blood in Gizmo's stool, he'd be off to the vet. Reactions to shots can in fact range from itching at the injection site, to seizures. Just like blood int he stool can range from a cut on the rectum, to kidney failure. I see that you compare it to a child having a fever the day before. Well, let's now compare your actual situation to a child. If your child was pooping out blood, would to not take them to the doctor? I hope to God you would. So I guess what I'm saying from experience and from having a dog with GI issues, it would be best for a dog to go to the vet to rule out anything bad to ensure this is in fact a one time occurance. __________________ Taryn Momma to Gizmo AKA Monkeyman My husband, daughter, son, and dog make me who I am "My goal in life is to be as good of a person my dog already thinks I am."

10-27-2011, 04:30 PM	#8
Beamers Mom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Palm Bay, Fl, USA Posts: 5,957	At least call the vet and explain about the blood in the stool! __________________ Help control the pet population. Have your pet spayed or neutered. - Bob Barker

10-27-2011, 04:49 PM	#9
gidget529 Gidget & Sidney's Mom Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 3,462	The repeated vomiting episodes would concern me, especially given her small size. The smaller yorkies have a higher incidence of congenital problems than the bigger ones. I would take her to the vet for a check. Also, kennel cough produces a "gagging" type presentation with the production of a mucous consistency that can almost resemble bile. I would not trust internet sources to self-diagnose. It could be a sensitive tummy that needs a prescription diet. It could be an irritable bowel type syndrome. It could be the start of liver shunt rearing its ugly head. The possibilities are too many for someone to diagnose over the internet sight unseen. __________________ Mommy to Gidget, Sidney & Cricket(RIP)

10-27-2011, 06:07 PM	#10
Britster Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,814	I am not one to rush to the vet for every little thing. However, I always play better safe than sorry as well. When it comes to vomiting and diarrhea especially. Certain things I just don't think it's smart to wait out. Throwing up once or twice during the day... no I wouldn't rush to the vet. Repeatedly vomiting, and some blood being present, would definitely have me at the vet asap. No question. As an example, Jackson threw up twice after eating some Beneful food once. I knew it was the food, he did it twice, was fine the next day, did not go to the vet, no puking for a LONG time after that. One night, after getting into WAY too much people food, Jackson began throwing up the next morning. Then an hour later, again. Then a few hours later again. Then he threw up all through the night every hour or so until 5am when there was some blood present. I got him to the vet asap and honestly I probably waited too long. Had I not waited so long, I probably would not have had to pay around $1700 having him hospitalized on IV's, diagnosed with pancreatitis, given subq fluids, blood tests, and all that stuff. I could have avoided, or at least lessened, his suffering had I taken him in earlier on before he vomited through the night. It's best to know your own dog for sure. I just knew that one night that he was NOT well and it was not just a simple upset tummy throw up (because I also know Jackson does not really have a sensitive stomach). But vomiting that much does not sound normal to me at all. Jackson has only had around three or four throwing up episodes in his life. Only one (the pancreatitis dx) being anything serious. If he was throwing up weekly or even monthly, I'd be concerned. Good luck -- I hope you take the advice ^^. __________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier Last edited by Britster; 10-27-2011 at 06:09 PM.

10-27-2011, 06:31 PM	#12
BabyGirl Rosie I ♥ my girls! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: With My Yorkies Posts: 18,980	I have had a similar experience with Rosie. The whole experience is why I ended up joining YT. She was vomiting (just a little, not much at all) and had diarrhea. At first it was just a loose stool and then the mucus stuff appeared. I didn't take her in immediately to the vet. Next came the blood in the stool. By the next morning she was so bad I thought I was going to lose her. I was at my vet crying my eyes out. Lots of vet care later, she has been diagnosed with IBS and has to eat I/D food for her issues. So, please get your pup to a vet as soon as possible. A very small situation can turn into a bad one very quickly. Dehydration is a major concern. Keep us updated. __________________ Momma to three sweet Yorkie girls Rosie Marie, Mikki Leigh , and Lily Mae Grace!

10-27-2011, 06:38 PM	#13
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	She has been gagging up bile for a week? Is this vomiting or regurgitation? A couple times of some diarrhea, even with a bit of red blood, wouldn't totally concern me (although that doesn't mean it's ok to skip the vet) unless it kept happening or it was accompanied by other symptoms (and it was). No reason to hold off on a vet. Regurgitation is very unhealthy for them. Her vet needs to know this is going on. They also need to know what was going on with the stool. At the very least, they may want to do a fecal to make sure there are no intestinal parasites present. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

10-27-2011, 08:11 PM	#15
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: with my yorkie baby Posts: 10,141 Blog Entries: 1	Honestly the tiny bit of blood in the stool wouldn't concern me either if it was just the one time. Dogs sometimes get blood in their stool if they aren't feeling well and its not always a red alert to go to the vet (as a side note, if a cat has blood in its stool that's definitely a sign to go to the vet). Now on to the gagging and bile. Is she regurgitating or vomiting? Does the bile just come up as if she burped or does it come from her stomach heaving and retching? Do you notice a pattern to this gagging? Is it at a certain time of day? What's the time frame between food and gagging up bile? Is there ever any bit of food in the bile or is it just foamy yellow/white stuff? Since she's been eating the food since April that wouldn't be the first thing i'd guess was the cause. Has she eaten anything else recently? table scraps, new treats, something outside, poop? Are you using any new cleaning products, laundry detergent, air fresheners? Have there been any changes within the household? Has anything happened to your other dog (s)? Personally if I was in a similar situation with my dog I'd be watching every little thing that she does. note every time she regurges or vomits and what it is, every time she urinates and deficates and the consistency of it, when she drinks and how much she drinks, and when she eats and how much. Since she is so small you don't want her to regurge/vomit +/- have diarrhea multiple times because she can dehydrate and get very sick very quickly. Everyone is going to tell you to be safe and take her to the vet because with these little guys you just never know what's going to happen. We are not there to see the situation ourselves so we can only go by what you are telling us, and then tell you what we'd do. You are the one with her and know her best. However, i'm going to assume your other dogs are bigger and that Lulu is your first tiny dog. Just know that while you may be able to wait it out with a bigger dog, its not a good idea to do so with a tiny toy breed. good luck with Lulu __________________ Kellie and Morgan