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04-05-2011, 11:25 AM | #1 |
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| Nutritionist question OK so Polo and I have lurked long enough, and we decided to finally become members. Polo is a little over a year old. I remember seeing a thread that contained information to a nutritionist that would walk you through home cooking for your yorkie. There was a fee involved, and a telephone consultation... I tried doing searches but keep getting no results... Am I losing it, or was there a thread with that information? Thanks Jim and Polo |
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04-05-2011, 11:34 AM | #2 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | Don't know who specifically you're looking for but, I have consulted with Sabine Contreras, at the link below. Better Dog Care, Better Dog Nutrition - Creating Healthy Lifestyles for Canines: About Sabine
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04-05-2011, 11:35 AM | #3 | |
T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England
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Dr. Rebecca Remillard has a website, www.petdiets.com and you can get a diet made for your dog for $25. She's a board certified veterinary nutritionist. If you need a medical diet for a dog with a medical need, you can contact her through the MSPCA Angell Memorial website for a consult which will cost more (www.mspca.org) but if you need just a regular Home Cooked diet, the first link works. My Teddy eats the "chicken and brown rice with veggies for dogs" that I paid $25 for.
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04-05-2011, 11:35 AM | #4 |
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| http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...itionists.html If you want your Yorkie's recipe to meet AAFCO or NRC standards (dog foods are expected to meet AAFCO), then it's almost always necessary to use a board certified veterinary nutritionist (a veterinarian who is also an animal nutritionist). A few of use use Dr. Remillard out of Angell. Petdiets.com and balanceit.com have recipes that you can get pretty cheap that would be balanced. They are only for adult, altered, and healthy animals though; otherwise, a consult would be necessary. When possible, if buying from one of these sites, I'd try to go with an option that says lower fat.
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04-05-2011, 12:05 PM | #5 | |
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04-05-2011, 04:28 PM | #6 |
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| Thank you all for the warm welcome, and the links. We recently had a bad experience with a particular kibble Polo was eating. Having seen him look as dehydated as he was, i swore I'd take matters into my own hands. So let me ask this, for those that are home cooking, are you happy ? So if I go the petdiets route and get a recipe along with the supplement, is this all Polo will eat? |
04-05-2011, 04:54 PM | #7 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| Yes, you can feed solely homecooked as long as you give the supplement. You can give kibble too though. It's up to you. I have homecooked for a few years now. I don't like taking the time to do it. It is hard to travel with. It isn't as easy for other people to take over and feed. I find that more meals are needed because there is so much moisture in it (not calorically dense enough). It can get expensive. Quality control/making sure it isn't in the fridge for too long, etc. is on me and I don't like that. I like being able to do it for my girl. I don't recommend it unless htere is a mecial reason. IMO, kibble fed dogs can do just as well and I'm not totally convinced that it's worth the effort.
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04-05-2011, 05:18 PM | #8 | |
T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England
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There are challenges to home cooking and to do it right means you are consistent. In my kitchen that means - organic high quality food, sanitary kitchen conditions, proper storage, freezing at subzero and vacuum packaging, proper defrosting, fresh supplementation and fresh fish oils. It means an incremental gram scale where all food is weighed and portioned to perfection and supplements are not rounded, they are weighted to increments of grams. I know what I feed my dogs is 100% balanced properly as fed so that I can be rest assured knowing that what has been formulated for them is what they are getting when I feed it. The downside to home cooking - shopping cost time for preparation / storage storage lack of portability The other problem with home cooking is that most people do not do it 100% in a militaristic type of way and they tend to "skip" things. This is not a good thing when home cooking for dogs.
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04-06-2011, 06:55 AM | #9 |
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| Just checked out the Sabine Contreras site. There is a sale on consult right now. Might be something to check out. |
04-06-2011, 07:21 AM | #10 | |
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Homecooking seems to be very popular now and a frightening amount of people aren't doing it correctly. I read over and over again on forums how people are just winging it, making up their own recipes, not adding supplements, etc. It's so important to remember that if homecooking isn't done correctly, you can actually harm your dog. You must get regular bloodwork to insure all his nutritional needs are being met. For most healthy, young dogs, a high quality commercial dog food is an excellent choice. With that said, I have been homecooking for my 15 year old Lady for about three years now. She has so many health issues including diabetes and liver disease plus she had three episodes of HGE within a four month period, I simply ran out of commercial food she could eat. She has done beautifully on it! Her bloodwork is perfect (ALT back to normal) and she is healthier that she has been all her life. But.......it's very expensive and a lot of work, just as Crystal said. | |
04-06-2011, 07:34 AM | #11 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| I'd like to not mind doing it like so many other people seem to. Just gets reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly old - if you don't wanna cook, mix, and measure, then your dog starves, so ya better get in that kitchen! Ugh. I do it because I have to. We have tried many recipes, and while her old one worked well for a long time, now she doesn't do perfect on anything (people or dog food). She does slightly better on people food than dog food, so that's why I have to do it. But I don't believe that we have held off any health issues by doing it. She has a skinny/malnutrition thing going on and her enzymes don't completely take care of it, so she eats a ton. Too much for her belly.. HA didn't work for her before, but I think I'm going to try it again. It'll give me and her belly a break.
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04-06-2011, 07:39 AM | #12 | |
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I remind myself how well she has done when I am cooking oatmeal at midnight! | |
04-06-2011, 07:49 AM | #13 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| rofl lmbo. I run out at the oddest hours too! Then her rice ends up sitting otu all night and I have to throw it all away.. Tried probiotics. Didn't seem to do a thing for her. Yes, she is on generic Viokase. Her pancreas gets angry easily. She is treated a lot like an EPI dog. Still required a ton of food though. She wouldn't probably maintain her weight at 1/3c+ 4x daily which is just too much. Too many times for me to feed and too much that she has to eat. Might try the Viokase next time instead of the generic though. Probably a bit stronger.
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