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01-19-2011, 06:46 PM | #1 |
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| i am still very concerned & need advice oliver has been on rc so canned dog food now for 1 month. the vet said he had a couple of crystals in his urine. 2 urine tests were done, one i brought in and the other they put a catherer in and took his urine. he also had a sono done and the vet said there were no stones, but the vet said that if he has a lower urininary problem they cannot see it on the sono, that maybe a tiny stone could be there and they would never see it. i thought they could see everything with a sono. so now its 1 month and he is still straining ,but not all the time, and sometimes when he goes again after the 1st pee , the amount is very small. does anyone know what the next step would be? should i keep him on this rc so food? and for how long? oliver is 1 1/2 yrs old any advice, please help |
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01-19-2011, 06:49 PM | #2 |
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| What type of crystals? Was the u/a repeated? Culture done?
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01-19-2011, 06:51 PM | #3 |
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01-19-2011, 07:18 PM | #4 |
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| Has Oliver ever had a bile acids test? |
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01-19-2011, 07:41 PM | #6 |
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| Bladder stones can be a symptom of a liver shunt. Since Yorkies are 36 times more likely to be born with a liver shunt than all other breeds combined, all Yorkies should routinely have a bile acids test by the time they are six months old. It is especially important to have one done if your Yorkie has any symptoms of a shunt. Portosystemic Shunts FAQ |
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Ultrasounds can be as low as 60% for detecting liver shunts, especially in small dogs. A bile acids test should be routine in Yorkies. Given his history, Oliver needs to have one done to rule it out so you can eliminate it as the cause of his urinary issues. | |
01-19-2011, 08:24 PM | #10 |
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| ok, do i need to do another urine test before i get that done? or should i tell the vet to just do it ? the vets i have gone to i do not think they are very familar with bile acid testing. he shows no other signs of liver shunt, that i can detect |
01-19-2011, 09:02 PM | #11 |
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| If Oliver were mine, I would ask for a referral to a specialist. You can waste a lot of time and money with a vet who isn't experienced with more complicated issues. IMO, all vets today should be familiar with bile acid testing if they treat breeds like Yorkies, Maltese, Cairns, Bichons, Havanese, etc. The protocol for bile acid testing is on the YTCA website. As I said before, this should be routinely done on affected breeds like Yorkies even if they are asymptomatic. http://www.ytca.org/health_CenterQue...xpress2010.pdf In order to find out what is causing Oliver's urinary problems, you have to start eliminating possible causes. Liver disease is one of them.
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01-20-2011, 07:13 AM | #14 |
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| The Animal Medical Center on 86th and 1st in Manhattan would be my first choice. I live near Cornell and the hospital is quite expensive and chances are you'll have students examining your dog. |
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