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Old 11-19-2010, 02:02 AM   #1
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Has anyone used the 7-n-1 vaccine on their yorkie and did okay with it??
Just wondering if there are any people who didn't have horrible side effects from the 7-in-1 vaccine.
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Old 11-19-2010, 04:26 AM   #2
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The 7 in 1 vaccine has WAY too many things in it for small yorkie. I probably wouldn't even give it to a larger dog. These vaccines usually have Lepto and Corona in them which can cause serious harm to a small dog. Unless those diseases are prevalent in your area then i wouldn't give them. If they are prevalent, then i would get them as single vaccines weeks apart so if your yorkie does have a reaction to one of them you will be able to figure out which it is.

Personally I would only give a vaccine that covered against distemper and parvo. nothing else. Then, if rabies is needed too, i would get it done 2 weeks later. Only one vaccine per visit for little dogs.
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I have to agree with kalina......Some of the components in a combo vaccine are not needed or recommended........Also,if you’re looking to vaccinate in moderation and caution then Dr. Dodds schedule may be what you’re looking for……..

Vaccination Schedule Recommendations For Dogs

You’ll note on her schedule there in a “core” section and a “non-core” section. If you want to do the minimal approach then parvo, distemper and rabies are what you’ll be doing for your pup, as the chart indicates. Although many people use these combo vaccines they are not in the best interest for your pup. What most people don’t take into consideration is the long term implications these vaccines do to their pups immune system, their relatively immature immune systems may be temporarily or more permanently harmed from such antigenic challenges. Consequences in later life may be the increased susceptibility to chronic debilitating diseases.

Some other reasons combo vaccines are not the best vaccines to administer are:

Giving combo vaccines (multi-valiant, polyvalent) and/or several shots at once increases the risk of adverse reactions as well as the risk that the vaccines will interfere with each other, resulting in neutralization or negation.

You’re more likely to get a weaker response in producing antibodies and increasing adverse reactions.

Some combo components are made from viruses, some are from bacteria, all delivered at once with a dangerous punch to the immune system.

The number of pathogens plus toxic and carcinogenic chemicals that the animals are exposed to all at once generate an enormous toll on the immune system. The results can be devastating.

If your dog experiences a reaction to the combo shot, there is no way to determine which antigen caused the reaction and must be avoided in the future.

Smaller dogs are more prone to vaccine reactions than larger dogs

Polyvalent vaccines are associated with many terrible conditions, one of which is immune- mediated hemolytic anemia ( IMHA), a disease in which the body attacks its own red blood cells.

In 2000, CHC's findings were confirmed by research which showed that polyarthritis and other diseases like amyloidosis, which affects organs in dogs, were linked to the combined vaccine given to dogs.



Dr. Schultz believes if the pup stats off with a damaged or compromised immune system it will never work properly again…..Some people are under a false sense of security that just because their pup “seems” fine after receiving these combo vaccines that they are safe..... I have to wonder if a pup developed a chronic illness or if the pup started having seizures within a month or so of a vaccine would the pup's owner ever consider the possibility that it may be vaccine related?

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I did the 7-in-1 with my Chihuahua at 8, 12, and 16 weeks, and he was under 2lbs for the first two times, and just barely over 3lbs for the 16 weeks shot. He could fit in my hand perfectly 7-9 weeks. I know they're different dogs, but I don't think if a Chihuahua who could fit in a normal size cup for the first 2 months of me having him, didn't have problems, then I don't think a Yorkie that's the same size (give or take) would. Then again I could be wrong, they are different dogs. But it's not a lot of liquid that's given, maybe about an inch (sorry I don't know how many cc's that is.)
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The results can be devastating. If your dog experiences a reaction to the combo shot, there is no way to determine which antigen caused the reaction and must be avoided in the future. Smaller dogs are more prone to vaccine reactions than larger dogs. Polyvalent vaccines are associated with many terrible conditions, one of which is immune- mediated hemolytic anemia ( IMHA), a disease in which the body attacks its own red blood cells. In 2000, CHC's findings were confirmed by research which showed that polyarthritis and other diseases like amyloidosis, which affects organs in dogs, were linked to the combined vaccine given to dogs.
Sometimes I really feel like when someone asks for a point of view from someone who has used something or given something to their dog, that other people jump to conclusions that it's the owners fault if something bad happend to the dog. Like "you shouldn't even get a puppy if you have small children. They're just going to end up hurting or killing the dog." Maybe that family has great control over what their children do, can take care of EVERYTHING that the animal needs, and because they have young children, they shouldn't get a dog.
In this situation, I feel like all she did was ask if someone has given the 7-in-1 to their dogs, and then someone posts something scary that may or may not happen to their puppy, so they don't end up doing what they want.
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This is an old thread but

There re MANY (most) dogs who can get the 7 in 1 with no problems (at least no problems right away, who knows about what happens years down the road as a result).

My Yorkie went into shock after a 7 in 1 + rabies, but it was just the lepto that caued an issue.

Not sure why anyone is giving the 7 in 1 now because corona is not something that should be vaccinated for. And while I think the lepto vaccine is sometimes needed, it certainly is not needed in all areas of the country or for all dogs.

If I choose to vaccinate my dog for lepto, the single is my preference. And again I'd hope nobody is vaccinating for corona.

That's my opinion on the 7 in 1. To each their own. Don't care if people decide not to give it even if they wanted to. Vaccinations are a serious issue and wants or unwants of owners should be last on the list of things to consider. Science first.
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But it's not a lot of liquid that's given, maybe about an inch (sorry I don't know how many cc's that is.)
The 7in1 is a lot more liquid, and it's still the same amount of liquid given to a 2-3 pound yorkie as it is that's given to a 70, 80, even 100 pound large breed dog. If that "inch" of liquid is enough to vaccinate a 100 pound dog, it's WAY too much for my 2 and 4 pound babies.
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I think vets here recommend the 5 way vaccine only. I have seen advertisements for more numbers on the same vaccine shot, like 8 way... etc. I only take my baby to the vets to give so whatever they recommend he gets. Never had any problems .
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My Westie pup was given the 6 in 1 without any problems. I think she was about 5 pounds at the time.

My Yorkie mix did have a horrible reaction to the Lepto shot (given separately). We don't give it to any of our girls anymore.
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I did the 7-in-1 with my Chihuahua at 8, 12, and 16 weeks, and he was under 2lbs for the first two times, and just barely over 3lbs for the 16 weeks shot. He could fit in my hand perfectly 7-9 weeks. I know they're different dogs, but I don't think if a Chihuahua who could fit in a normal size cup for the first 2 months of me having him, didn't have problems, then I don't think a Yorkie that's the same size (give or take) would. Then again I could be wrong, they are different dogs. But it's not a lot of liquid that's given, maybe about an inch (sorry I don't know how many cc's that is.)
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Sometimes I really feel like when someone asks for a point of view from someone who has used something or given something to their dog, that other people jump to conclusions that it's the owners fault if something bad happend to the dog. Like "you shouldn't even get a puppy if you have small children. They're just going to end up hurting or killing the dog." Maybe that family has great control over what their children do, can take care of EVERYTHING that the animal needs, and because they have young children, they shouldn't get a dog.
In this situation, I feel like all she did was ask if someone has given the 7-in-1 to their dogs, and then someone posts something scary that may or may not happen to their puppy, so they don't end up doing what they want.
I was a little confused what bringing a dog into a household w children has to do w vaccines.

I think when someone posts asking a question, arming them w the info of what can and cannot happen gives them knowledge to help them make a decision. There are a lot of vets that are now recommending only giving vaccines one at a time to small (toy size) dogs bc of the number of reactions they have seen in their practices over the years. My vet is one of them.

From a medical standpoint, having worked in human med for years, unfortunately just bc one person has a procedure or a treatment w/o difficulty does not mean the next will. For example, approximately 20,000 ppl a year will suffer sudden death due to a genetic reaction to general anesthesia. A lot of ppl have general every year w no problem; however, if you are one of the 20,000 with the genetic anomaly, you're going to have a deadly problem. Ppl need to be given the facts, both good and bad, to make an informed decision.
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