Royal Canin vs. Hill's

[FidoTheYorkie]

What is better, Royal Canin or Hills?

Fido has almost always been on Royal Canin, I've tested Purina ProPlan also, ProPac and Hills.
Royal Canin is the only thing i've found yet that's good for him, he has a weighting proplem so he doesnt need much to be overwheight
Now he is on Royal Canin Obesity food, I'm making him loose wheight, when he will be in good shape I'll put him on Royal Canin Mini Light so he doesnt get fat again.

Is Hills any better than Royal Canin?
Its just either Royal Canin or Hills for him because he needs special food, if i give him ''normal'' dog food (not light or obesity) he gains wheight fast !
He gained 1 and a half kilos on 3 months! and he's a YORKIE , not a Labrador or something.
He gained so much cause i put him on ProPlan for 2-3 months,i bought that food cause it was much cheaper, but now i see that its much better to buy more expensive food.

When he was on Hills he was on obese food so i cant tell how it is, his fur was not so good and he pooped alot more, then the vet said that he was suppose to do that, i dont know what to believe.

Is Royal Canin bad dog food?
I've seen people who just dont want to feed their dogs Royal Canin because of something i dont know, I've always thought that Royal Canin was the best dog food available.

[Britster]

I would not feed neither, to be honest.

The only kibbles I'd personally consider feeding are Orijen/Acana, Go!/Now!, Nature's Variety, Fromm, Wellness.

I'm sure some dogs do fine on RC but for the price, it's hardly got any meat, and it's got corn as the first or second ingredient.

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[cristorey34]

Originally Posted by Britster

I would not feed neither, to be honest.

The only kibbles I'd personally consider feeding are Orijen/Acana, Go!/Now!, Nature's Variety, Fromm, Wellness.

I'm sure some dogs do fine on RC but for the price, it's hardly got any meat, and it's got corn as the first or second ingredient.

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[deonk1]

I'm dittoing Brister... I used to feed Royal Canin, and I'm glad I switched to NOW!

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by FidoTheYorkie

What is better, Royal Canin or Hills?

Fido has almost always been on Royal Canin, I've tested Purina ProPlan also, ProPac and Hills.
Royal Canin is the only thing i've found yet that's good for him, he has a weighting proplem so he doesnt need much to be overwheight
Now he is on Royal Canin Obesity food, I'm making him loose wheight, when he will be in good shape I'll put him on Royal Canin Mini Light so he doesnt get fat again.

Is Hills any better than Royal Canin?
Its just either Royal Canin or Hills for him because he needs special food, if i give him ''normal'' dog food (not light or obesity) he gains wheight fast !
He gained 1 and a half kilos on 3 months! and he's a YORKIE , not a Labrador or something.
He gained so much cause i put him on ProPlan for 2-3 months,i bought that food cause it was much cheaper, but now i see that its much better to buy more expensive food.

When he was on Hills he was on obese food so i cant tell how it is, his fur was not so good and he pooped alot more, then the vet said that he was suppose to do that, i dont know what to believe.

Is Royal Canin bad dog food?
I've seen people who just dont want to feed their dogs Royal Canin because of something i dont know, I've always thought that Royal Canin was the best dog food available.

How big of a selection of foods do you have where you live? Have you had a vet do bloodwork, check his thryoid and look for possible underlying health problems that are affecting his weight?

Generally, I agree with Brit and the foods she listed - she and I are very like minded on our pup's diet. But, sometimes your choices can be limited. If that's the case, especially if you think you have a special needs yorkie, then find the food that works for him and stick to it. This is my opinion only, but I don't feel that RC is better than SD, or vice versa. Both are of similar quality.

[Shorkielover]

Neither!

[AMD]

I would feed RC before Hills personally. That being said I'm not a huge fan of RC especially the corn gluten meal ingredient. I fed RC for a short time before I switched to grain-free; but you have to decide on what's best for your pup...it will be different than another.

[KashasMom]

Ditto with everyone above.

I started out with RC because that's what Kasha was on when we got her. She had trouble eating kibble during teething so we decided to try pre-made raw. I'll just be frank and say the difference is in the #2. She went from 3 a day and stinky to 1 or 2 tiny little ones. I bring this up because you get out what you put in... if there are fillers ... they come riiight out. Just like when humans eat fast food they tend to have a lil extra meat on their bones.

I'd feed RC over Hills if I had limited options because of $$ or location. Personally, there are many reasonable and better options for feeding which would most likely help with the weight issue. Depending on the size of your munchkin it may actually cost you about the same as RC to feed a higher quality. I've found great info here & at my local holistic/non-chain based pet store.

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by Britster

I would not feed neither, to be honest.

The only kibbles I'd personally consider feeding are Orijen/Acana, Go!/Now!, Nature's Variety, Fromm, Wellness.

I'm sure some dogs do fine on RC but for the price, it's hardly got any meat, and it's got corn as the first or second ingredient.

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I think she is asking about prescriptions foods. Even here in the US we are limited to Hills, Waltham, Eukanuba, IAMS and Purina. Given a choice, I personally think Waltham (Royal Canin) prescription diets are better than Hills.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by Britster

I'm sure some dogs do fine on RC but for the price, it's hardly got any meat, and it's got corn as the first or second ingredient.
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That is just not true. Many of the Royal Canin blends have no corn at all and none list it as 1st or 2nd for sure. Not only that --but you have to look at what part of the corn we are talking about. Sure whole corn, might wind up being a cheap filler but Royal Canin uses Corn gluten -- the protein part of corn. Read below:

"Corn has become a lightning rod for controversy in today's pet foods. We receive many calls about it, few of which are positive. Its detractors claim that it is contrary to a pet's natural eating habits, is a cheap filler material, and is not very digestible. Some of these misconceptions are due to lack of understanding of the different nutritional aspects of corn. Whole corn and processed corn (corn gluten meal, ground corn, etc.) are worlds apart in terms of usable nutrition. Gluten is defined by AAFCO as the tough, viscid nitrogenous substance remaining when the grain is washed to remove the starch. In other words, it is the protein-containing portion of the corn. Meal is a dried form of gluten."

But just going by the ingredient list is not really a good measure of the food's quality. For instance, did you know that many of the meat items listed early on an ingredient list includes the water content? So, although it is listed early in the list, it may be very misleading and not give nearly as much protein as others. Going by the nutritional analysis is even more important than the ingredient list alone. Best to use them together to evaluate the food.


Examples:
Royal Canin Mini Toy Indoor: Ingredients: Chicken meal, brown rice, rice, oatmeal, chicken fat, wheat gluten, natural chicken flavor, dried beet pulp, rice hulls, fish oil, vegetable oil, brewers dried yeast, dried egg product, sodium silico aluminate, salt, potassium chloride, fructo-oligosaccharides, calcium sulfate, sodium tripolyphosphate, DL-methionine, taurine, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), inositol, niacin supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), D-calcium pantothenate, biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A acetate, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], choline chloride, magnesium oxide, marigold extract (Tagetes erecta L.), Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], tea (green tea extract), L-Carnitine, rosemary extract, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E) and citric acid.

Royal Canin Indoor Puppy 27: Ingredients: Brown rice, chicken meal, rice, chicken fat, wheat gluten, chicken, dried beet pulp, natural chicken flavor, fish oil, dried egg product, vegetable oil, sodium silico aluminate, potassium chloride, fructo-oligosaccharides, sodium tripolyphosphate, dried brewers yeast extract, salt, choline chloride, DL-methionine, monocalcium phosphate, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), biotin, D-calcium pantothenate, niacin supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin A acetate, vitamin D3 supplement, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), folic acid], taurine, monosodium phosphate, L-lysine, Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], L-tyrosine, marigold extract (Tagetes erecta L.), rosemary extract, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E) and citric acid.

This is the Nutritional Analysis of the Yorkshire Terrier Blend: GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein (min) 28.0%,
Crude Fat (min) 16.5%,
Crude Fiber (max) 4.7%,
Moisture (max) 10.0%,
mega 3 Fatty Acids*
(min) 0.58%,
Glucosamine Hydrochloride* (min) 400 mg/kg,
Chondroitin Sulfate* (min) 100 mg/kg
The Yorkshire Terrier formula does contain corn gluten -- 5th in the ingredient list. I don't use the Yorkshire Terrier blend as I like the Mini Toy Indoor 27 better. I have been feeding Canidae for years but often subsitute Royal Canin as I can find it locally.

I know, last year everyone started dissing Canidae but I think it is an excellent food! I use the Chicken & Rice All Life Stage formula (which has no fish) but it does also come in a grain-free All Life Stage formula along with other choices.

I think there are plenty of good foods out there for our dogs. You try them, see what your dogs like and how they do on them.

[MaddiesMommie]

Originally Posted by FidoTheYorkie

Is Royal Canin bad dog food?
I've seen people who just dont want to feed their dogs Royal Canin because of something i dont know, I've always thought that Royal Canin was the best dog food available.

I fed RC for Yorkies but Maddie scratched aqnd licked her paws constantly on it. I switched to a gran-free for her. That was the only reason I left RC at the time.

As for which RX diet is better I really don't know much about either. sorry