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07-03-2010, 10:01 AM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oklahoma
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| PLEASE Help me!! I know wrong forum, didn't think I'd get replies in the other forums. My babies are picky and I need help. They havent touched their food in 3 days. I want to switch to Raw and grain free kibble. They will not eat Natures Variety RAW. Tried chicken and then tried lamb, no go on both unless I gave them frozen. I've been searching the boards all night from what I've gathered Primal is the best. Is it the best or is Stella & Chewy? Being in oklahoma my choices are limited. I've found one place that carries Stella & Chewy but only the freeze dried and 3 places carry Primal. I've been feeding Natures Variety Prairie Chicken & Brown Rice for 10 months, lately Chloe and Ollie have been itching and chloe won't stop licking her paws. They've always been on a chicken formula and now I feel horrible b/c I just discovered how bad that is and I'm worried they've developed a food allergy. BAD MOMMY!. I recently tried a sample bag of Natures Variety Prairie Vanison... like I mentioned above, 3 days later they haven't touched it. I need to know the best kibble to go with Primal? Acana seemed popular is this the best choice? Oh please please help me, thank you so much!!! |
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07-03-2010, 10:08 AM | #2 |
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| All of the foods you mentioned are very good quality. I've fed them all except Primal and Stella & Chewys. The only reason I haven't fed those is because I can't find them in Tulsa. I've heard great things and would like to try them someday. Chicken is NOT bad. It's just that some pups can develop food allergies to chicken, or any protein, after they've eaten it for a long time. How old are your pups? I'm currently feeding Acana Pacifica, rotating it with Acana Grasslands. Neither contains chicken so my oldest (who does have an allergy to chicken) can enjoy it. I've been feeding Acana for several months and I'm so impressed with it. I think my munchkins will be eating it for a long time to come. Have you tried NV's Instinct line? That's a favorite of my pups. As far as the BEST food to feed.....there isn't one. You have to find one that your babies like, that they do well on and that you're comfortable feeding them. It can be a hard process to find that one food that works for all of you. Good luck!
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07-03-2010, 10:42 AM | #3 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oklahoma
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| Oliver is 2 and a half and has always been on some form of chicken, as a puppy he ate chicken soup for the pet lovers soul puppy formula, then california natural chicken meal and rice puppy formula. We had a trial and error period with sample packets EVO (caused the runs) Wilderness (wouldn't eat it, all varieties) Blue buffalo (wouldn't eat it, and I'm not secure with it b/c it's at petsmart.) Found Natures Variety Prairie Chicken and he would finally eat so we've stuck with that. Enter Chloe, she will be 2 in October, I've had her for a year and she has been on the NV Prairie Chicken every since I've had her (her previous owner fed puppy chow for 5 months blech!). Again the RAW was introduced here and there with no success. I know Ollie loves the NV Prairie Chicken but they've been on it too long. |
07-03-2010, 10:52 AM | #4 |
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| I second everything BonBon says, those are all high quality foods. I would just like to add, DO NOT PANIC!!! Even the most picky dogs will not starve themselves absent some sort of medical problem, so never fear they will eat when they have to even if it takes some time to find a food they truly love. Also, I am sure they are getting more nutrition than you think. These little guys really do eat a fairly small amount. Just a couple of weeks ago I was out of town and Bruce was being babysat by a very close friend. The second night she called me virtually hysterical and wanting to take him to an emergency vet because he had "stopped eating," when I explained that he really does only eat a tiny bit at a time she was shocked.
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07-03-2010, 11:40 AM | #5 |
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| Chloe is a little Piggy when she likes something! She eats a small amount but it's so sad b/c it takes her forever to chew with her little teeth. Thats another reason I want to switch to raw, specifically Chloe, She is 3 lbs and her teeth are tiny. Ollie has no problem with chewing, he is 21 lbs, he's my big baby bear. I've done a lot of research on RAW the past few days and one the most interesting thing I learned was the chewing pattern and the teeth shape Dogs Don’t Grind… They Chop For comparison, think about a typical herbivore… a dairy cow. Now, picture the way they “chew their cud”. Cows chew widely from side-to-side. And they have broad, flat back teeth… ideal for grinding grains and plant material into finer particles. Even omnivores share this same combination of boxy back teeth and sideways grinding motion common to herbivores. Think of your own mouth and how you chew. Dogs, on the other hand, don’t have flat teeth. Like most carnivores, they have narrow pointy back teeth. Plus dogs can’t chew from side-to-side. Their jaws can only move in an up-and-down, chop-chop motion. It’s the perfect combination for cutting meat into smaller chunks. With that being said, and seeing her chomp, raw should be much easier, but should I have dental concerns b/c its so soft? You guys are so helpful it's amazing |
07-03-2010, 11:43 AM | #6 | |
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If you do, then from what I've learned here on YT it shouldn't matter if the food is hard or soft. It's the QUALITY of the food that is most important, not whether you feed kibble, canned or raw. When I think of my own teeth and how my diet affects them this makes perfect sense to me.
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07-03-2010, 12:11 PM | #7 | |
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The incisor has light tan yellow build up near the gum line. I've tried the Petzlife but not daily bc the chemicals worry me. As for toothpaste I just bought kissables, hoping this will be better than petrodex but am concerned with the sorbitol in it. | |
07-03-2010, 03:17 PM | #8 |
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| From what I've researched AND my own personal experience when I fed Missy RAW "dog's fed a raw diet have much cleaner teeth. The processed or cooked foods eaten by dogs today are high in two substances; soluble carbohydrates and soluble calcium. These two nutrients attack a dog's mouth at every meal. In addition, processed foods do not contain the naturally occurring enzymes found in raw foods so necessary for clean teeth" I really miss feeding RAW just for this reason alone. Missy's teeth were sparkling clean and her breath was so fresh! My vet made me quit feeding RAW, but that was my old vet. I think that I will talk to my new vet about it because Missy's teeth (at 1.5 yrs of age) are not looking good despite me being diligent about brushing them. I homecook now, but I'm all for RAW. I think it's awesome. Missy use to eat the Organic Chicken by NV. She would not eat it if it was the slightest bit cold, so I would thaw it and put it in the microwave for 5-7 seconds, just to take the chill off, not to warm it or cook it at all because there is bone in it and I didn't want to destroy the nutrients. But after a 5 second nuke, she would gobble it up. Good Luck with whatever food you decide to go with.
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