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04-09-2010, 08:42 AM | #1 |
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| Need advice I am looking into adopting a beautiful 2 year old female yorkie. I was told that she had a loose knee and I did some research, talked to my vet and decided that that can be taken care of with surgery later if we need to. She is not showing signs at this time. She also had an episode with low blood sugar, once while pregnant and once right after. I spoke with my vet and he thinks this could be a sign of future liver problems. Has anyone had experience with low sugar while breeding? I need to make an informed decision before I bring this little girl into my home. I need to make sure I can give her the care she needs and that she is healthy enough to live many happy years as our princess. Any info would be helpful! Thanks!
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04-10-2010, 07:15 AM | #2 |
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| A lot Yorkies have trouble with their knees. My girl has LP but it's like a grade 1-2 (not bad) so most of the time they don't need surgery. It's just something that you watch for. Did your vet say what grade level it is? If she does need surgery most heal very nicely. The part about the blood sugar level - try posting about it in the Breeders area. Good Luck!
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04-10-2010, 10:05 AM | #3 | |
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The sugar problems concern me more. I will have to wait and see if she allows me to take her and have her spayed at my vet. I will have the blood work done then to see if that reveals liver issues. I have sent her my terms and I am anxiously waiting a repsonse. Thanks again!
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04-10-2010, 10:16 AM | #4 |
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| Get a bile acids test done. That will tell your vet how her liver is functioning. Did the vet grade her knees? Loose kneecaps (luxating patellas) are very common in Yorkies and other toy breed dogs. They are grade from 1-4 with 4 being the worst. If they are 1 or 2 and you are carful not to let her jump on and off furniture, she shouldn't need surgery. |
04-10-2010, 10:53 AM | #5 |
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| Low blood sugar could have many causes - when you vet said it could be a predictor of future liver problems did he reference any current blood work? I'd run a general chemistry first and go from there personally. If warranted thereafter, or if there are symptoms beyond low blood sugar during breeding, do the BA test. As for LP - Daisy had a grade 4 and had the surgery at under 1 year old. The cost of the surgery was around $1800 back in 2001 here in the northeast. Hers was done by a board certified orthopedist and while views differ on this I'd personally never let a vet who was not board certified operate on my dog. She recovered very nicely with no remaining issues and will be 10 in September. So, even if it is LP and it requires surgery, these little dogs can do very well.
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04-10-2010, 10:58 AM | #6 | |
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04-10-2010, 11:02 AM | #7 | |
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I think we can handle the LP.
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04-10-2010, 11:22 AM | #8 | |
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04-10-2010, 11:38 AM | #9 |
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| I don't want to say no but I don't think so. I believe that her owner also knew she had a bad knee but I can't be sure. I am looking at this as a rescue even though she is not in a "Rescue". There are a few things that don't seem quite right with the breeder. I just want to get her out of there and with me. I will have to ask more questions. She is only 4lbs anyway and I think that is a bit small to breed in the first place. The end result was the c-section and that is the real reason she is being placed in a new home.
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04-10-2010, 11:58 AM | #10 | |
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Oh, dear. How irresponsible for that breeder to breed a four pound Yorkies with bad knees and no health testing! I how she is being placed for the cost of her spay and not being sold. | |
04-10-2010, 12:17 PM | #11 |
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| Yes that is what she asked and the price of her teeth cleaning. I am not sure how these things usually work but I am asking to bring her home and have her bloodwork, spay and teeth clean here. I did offer to pay her a fee if she felt it was needed to feel like she was not giving her away. I am waiting to hear back. I would think if she was really just looking for a good home and she trust me enough to give her too me to take care of for the rest of her life (including the medical problems) there shouldn't be a problem. Do you know any reason why that would not work? I have said I would sign a contract saying I knew she had medical problems and I would have ths spay and teeth clean done. I would send her documentation after the fact.
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04-10-2010, 12:36 PM | #12 |
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| It depends on the breeder. Most responsible breeders who retire their breeding dogs have the spay or neuter done before placing them in their new home. It guarantees that they will never be bred again. It doesn't sound like this breeder falls into that category, though. If it were me, I'd want bloodwork and a bile acids test done before adopting her. Liver disease may not show up on a basic blood chemistry panel. Since Yorkies are more affected by shunts than all other breeds, Dr. Center recommends all Yorkies have bile acids tests once they reach six months old. |
04-10-2010, 12:53 PM | #13 | |
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I don't like the idea of sending money then hopeing things go well and waiting a few weeks then going to get her. I will see what I can work out with her, but when it comes down to it I don't know how to convince her that I will do the right thing. She will have to trust me. I will do what is right. She should be spayed.
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04-10-2010, 01:16 PM | #14 | |
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How did you find this breeder? Is she local? | |
04-10-2010, 01:48 PM | #15 | |
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I came across her website and sent her an email commenting on her beautiful dogs. She is in my state and I told her I would be back to check things out when I was ready to get my Fiona a playmate. She emailed back saying that one of the girls I had commented on was going to have to be retired and would be spayed. She was rehoming her for the fee of her spay and teeth cleaning. That put things in motion. I know there are a lot of people who have pups from her and they are healthy. I also know of one person who says they got an unhealthy pup from her. There seems to be more good then bad but I am still cautious. Honestly I have already fallen for this little girl. I am just trying to work out what is best for everyone, especially her. I kind of thought that the surgery should be done, then a new home found but she commented that she didn't want to pay for it and then not find a home. She asked me to send her the money. I am not really up for that agreement. Since I know about her and know she has not been spayed, I would like to do it myself. If she doesn't agree to that but will agree to have her spayed and then have me meet her and go from there that would be ok. I would need to see the bloodwork results. That would work out well. I will see, she hasn't emailed back yet. I have dial up so if she is trying to call she won't be able to get through. She knows that and also knows I am trying to build a website so I am on here a lot. I know this is not the best stiuation but I am too far in to turn back unless she says she will not accept anything but the money up front. In that case I will have to move on. Thanks for you help. I am doing my research but I can use a second opinion on all of this!
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