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Old 10-02-2007, 08:54 PM   #16
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Please don't be too hard on yourself -- I'm another mommy of a baby who had pancreatitis. As a very young pup, Archie was hypoglycemic twice and was not a good eater. As a result, I think I went overboard trying to find things he would eat and though I was not feeding him high-fat things (yogurt, sweet potato, baked potato, scrambled eggs, all unseasoned), he still came down with panreatitis. I know about the guilt! Luckily, I noticed something was wrong and got him to the vet and we caught it early. These days he gets his kibble, all-natural doggie treats, some fruits and veggies like carrots and green beans -- that's it. We all do the best we can for our dogs with the knowledge we have. Luckily, you're on YT where you can connect with people who have had similar experiences. I hope your girl is better soon.
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Sophie was sick from the time she was five and developed colitis. My recommendation is this: If you are prescribed Science Diet ID, which a lot of vets do, this should be a temporary diet not permanent. It does not have enough nutriments for a healthy life. Google and research about this disease so you have knowledge when you talk with the vet.

I am sorry your pup has this condition because it is very painful and does reoccur. Stress can also bring an episode, change in diet. Warmly, Deborah
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Here's a really good article explaining pancreatitis. It says that Yorkies have a higher incidence of pancreatitis than most other breeds.

http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=335
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I'm sorry your little is going thru this. I learned the hard way too about the table scraps, I thought I was doing something nice for Gizmo. Since that first round with the Pancreatitis we have had another, after that he endured the whole HGE nightmare. It does make you paranoid when they don't feel well, I even chech his poo when we're out for walks. Prayers for your baby, you gotta let the guilt go and learn from this. I'm sure you are a great mom.
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Hi! I am so sorry to hear that your little one is dealing with this. Zeus, 4 yrs old, has been battling this for the past 3 years. We have had 2 pretty bad attacks, but have managed to keep it under control with diet. It is very FRUSTRATING since Zeus has only ever had dog food, no people food, no bad treats. We have no idea why it started, but just know that we have to keep a close eye on him for the rest of his life. He has had 3 or 4 small attacks which lasted only about a day. I felt like the worst Mommy when this first happened, so I completely understand where you are coming from. Zeus is on Eukanuba Low Residue prescription food and this really seems to work. We went through about 4 other prescription foods until we found the one that worked the best. Good luck to you and your little one. I am sure everything will be just fine.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:27 AM   #21
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I'm praying that she continues to feel better. Don't feel guilty you didn't give her any type of food you thought would be bad for her.
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I can certainly sympathize with you. Bentley got pancreatitis out of the blue and we nearly lost him. We "NEVER" gave him human food. He only got milk bone treats and Science Hill dog food. Every since we now feed him a prescription diet and dog treats we get from out vet.

I almost panic when he acts like he doesn't feel good because I am so paranoid it will happen again.

The same thing happened to my Max too. The only human food he really got was boiled chicken breast when we went out to dinner, or sometimes scrambled egg whites. That was over a year ago, and he hasn't had any problems since (knock wood), but we don't give him anything other than his canned low calorie food and I give him the low calorie dry food as his "snacks" or "treats" now. I never want to go thru another episode of pancreatitis. Max was in the vet hospital over the entire weekend.
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My boy has had 2 bouts of pancreatitis with the 1st being complicated by hypoglycemia - it was just horrible. We nearly lost him because it came on SO suddenly. One day he was fine, the next he didn't have any energy at all. That night he was hit with diarrea, vomiting, and had a seizure in my arms on the way to the emergency hospital!!! The doctor thought it was parvo and he wasn't treated for the right thing until the second bout. My dad gave him the tiniest piece of pork chop at a cookout and it set him off again.

It was an expensive ordeal, but more taxing on our emotions. I can't imagine the strength it took to survive all that. So you're not alone! I've always been against giving ANY human food to dogs because I've seen so many die from obesity complications, but this is just another reason to be very careful about their nutrition & fat intake.

My dad felt guilty about it & I was just plain angry @ the emergency vet for making the wrong diagnosis. She was just horrible all around.
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:35 AM   #24
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My 7 year old yorkie has had diarrah and vomiting on and off since he was 8 weeks old. We have always given him boiled chicken as was recommended by the breeder mixed in with his hard dog food for one meal. We also gave him little pieces of very lean ham for the other meal so we could get him to eat the kibble which is better for his teeth instead of soft food..Over the years we kept switching to various brands of kibble thinking that this was his problem. Once a month he got a little lean hamburger mixed with his heartguard. Recently he got sick with the diarrah and vomiting for over a week that was worse than ever before and was not getting any better so I decided to stop the ham and give him chicken twice a day. He was getting worse so pet store recommended a new vet that seemed to be very good at listening to the whole story. So we switched vets.. New vet listened to his history and told me he wanted to do blood work to be sure there was nothing else wrong with him, but he was sure he could not tolerate the protien in chicken. told me not to give him the hamburger either, only the once a month so I could get his heart guard medicine in him. He could still have the ham which is pork and that is all right for him. Although chicken and cottage cheese are the usual recipe for doggy diarrah it is not for a dog that has this condition. He took food away for 24 hours and the next day he stopped with the diaraha and vomiting ,it has been over 8 weeks and he has not had either again. This is the first time since I had him that he poops normal. What a relief this is. Maybe this might help someone else . It is worth a try as we tried changing the kibble all the time, and the culprit was the chicken. Vet said we were doing the right thing by switching to Nature Balance duck and potato kibble but then throwing it all off with the chicken. Never realized how many dog products contain chicken. Now I read the lables very carefully on treats as well.
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That's odd that your vet said ham is okay. From everything I've read, ham, or any pork products like bacon, sausage, etc. are big triggers for pancreatitis.

Pancreatitis is an unpredictable disease that is easier to prevent than to treat. That's why we caution owners not to give fatty treats like ham and sausage to the dog, even if he's handled it for years. It can cause a sudden and sometimes severe problem," states Dr. Linnetz

http://www.parade.com/pets/articles/...nous-food.html


Ham and Other Fatty Meats Are Very Dangerous
Like cheese, ham and other fatty meats are high in fat, which can lead to a life-threatening pancreatitis. In addition to being high in fat, these foods are very salty and can cause serious stomach upset if eaten by your cats or dogs. Furthermore, large breeds of dogs that eat salty food may drink too much water and develop a potentially fatal condition called bloat. The stomach fills up with gas and within several hours may twist on itself, causing the animal to die. So avoid giving ham and/or rich/salty meats to your pets.

http://www-s.cvm.uiuc.edu/ope/petcol...article&id=399

Ham and bacon contain too much fat and too much salt, and can cause pancreatitis.


http://www.lacetoleather.com/fataltodogs.html

Never give your dog fat trimmings from meat and especially from ham as high fat consumption could lead to a bout of pancreatitis. Pancreatitis can range in severity from mild to life threatening. Turkey skin is also high in fat content.

Vets see an increase in pancreatitis over holiday seasons.


http://www.dogchatforum.com/foods-not-for-dogs.htm
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That's odd that your vet said ham is okay. From everything I've read, ham, or any pork products like bacon, sausage, etc. are big triggers for pancreatitis.

Pancreatitis is an unpredictable disease that is easier to prevent than to treat. That's why we caution owners not to give fatty treats like ham and sausage to the dog, even if he's handled it for years. It can cause a sudden and sometimes severe problem," states Dr. Linnetz

http://www.parade.com/pets/articles/...nous-food.html


Ham and Other Fatty Meats Are Very Dangerous
Like cheese, ham and other fatty meats are high in fat, which can lead to a life-threatening pancreatitis. In addition to being high in fat, these foods are very salty and can cause serious stomach upset if eaten by your cats or dogs. Furthermore, large breeds of dogs that eat salty food may drink too much water and develop a potentially fatal condition called bloat. The stomach fills up with gas and within several hours may twist on itself, causing the animal to die. So avoid giving ham and/or rich/salty meats to your pets.

http://www-s.cvm.uiuc.edu/ope/petcol...article&id=399

Ham and bacon contain too much fat and too much salt, and can cause pancreatitis.


http://www.lacetoleather.com/fataltodogs.html

Never give your dog fat trimmings from meat and especially from ham as high fat consumption could lead to a bout of pancreatitis. Pancreatitis can range in severity from mild to life threatening. Turkey skin is also high in fat content.

Vets see an increase in pancreatitis over holiday seasons.


http://www.dogchatforum.com/foods-not-for-dogs.htm
Hi , AS this was my first time posting I think I might have listed under the wrong heading. My Yorkie does not have pancreatitis as everyone seemed to take this as. The vet said what he has is an allergy to protein, what you would call irritable bowl syndrone in a person. It is ok to give him ham as long as it is very low in sugar and soduim, as ham is pork and he can have pork. we do not give him very much ham, probably a tablespoon cut very small mixed in with his kibble. I heat it for a few seconds in the microwave and then shake the dish so that he gets the flavor of the ham all over the kibble. This way we can get him to eat hard food which is much better for his teeth. He also loves raw yellow and red peppers, carrots and fresh fruits. Sorry if I listed under the wrong thing. Im still trying to figure out how to use this site.
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:36 PM   #27
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she was hospitalized on IV for 2 days...the vet said either pancreatitis or HGE couldn't say for sure without an ultrasound, and she was pretty much recovered by time they figured this out...Hasn't recurred since (touch wood) she was just getting kibble no table scraps....
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That's odd that your vet said ham is okay. From everything I've read, ham, or any pork products like bacon, sausage, etc. are big triggers for pancreatitis.

Pancreatitis is an unpredictable disease that is easier to prevent than to treat. That's why we caution owners not to give fatty treats like ham and sausage to the dog, even if he's handled it for years. It can cause a sudden and sometimes severe problem," states Dr. Linnetz

http://www.parade.com/pets/articles/...nous-food.html


Ham and Other Fatty Meats Are Very Dangerous
Like cheese, ham and other fatty meats are high in fat, which can lead to a life-threatening pancreatitis. In addition to being high in fat, these foods are very salty and can cause serious stomach upset if eaten by your cats or dogs. Furthermore, large breeds of dogs that eat salty food may drink too much water and develop a potentially fatal condition called bloat. The stomach fills up with gas and within several hours may twist on itself, causing the animal to die. So avoid giving ham and/or rich/salty meats to your pets.

http://www-s.cvm.uiuc.edu/ope/petcol...article&id=399

Ham and bacon contain too much fat and too much salt, and can cause pancreatitis.


http://www.lacetoleather.com/fataltodogs.html

Never give your dog fat trimmings from meat and especially from ham as high fat consumption could lead to a bout of pancreatitis. Pancreatitis can range in severity from mild to life threatening. Turkey skin is also high in fat content.

Vets see an increase in pancreatitis over holiday seasons.


http://www.dogchatforum.com/foods-not-for-dogs.htm
Hey - thanks for all the references!!! That's great information for my boy Raja
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:04 PM   #29
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.....I don't think cooked meat is good for them....their systems are not able to digest it properly.....table scraps now and then in small quantities ...veggies mostly.....if you think of it in human terms if we ate junk food every day of our lives the ill effects would eventually catch up w us....but if we eat a balanced diet w lots of fruit and veggies it's ok to have "party" foods now and then.....if you have your furr baby on a good diet (my personal choice is the raw diet) it's ok for him to have a few table scraps(I give mine ice cream now and then but this is totally my own practice cause i can't deny them ice cream)....
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Hi all. This is my 1st visit to this site. My Boomerang is now 14 1/2 and we have been fighting pancreatitus for 5 years. He was diagnosed last year with smoldering pancreatitus, it never goes away completely. I do my best to keep it under control. 5 days ago he started vomiting every night. There is a very specific look to the vomit when pancreatitus is in full swing and I do not believe we are at the acute stage right now. Unfortunately I am unable to get him to eat anything prescribed. I was hoping someone might have a suggestion.
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