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10-14-2009, 12:15 PM | #1 |
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| The NEVER ending quest for the "right" food to feed... Does it ever end... Hairs infood in one food. (EVO Red) Bones in another food. (Wellness Salmon) Ethoxyquin in lots of others with fish meal/fish. (Chicken Soup, TOW, Natural Balance, Solid Gold, any Diamond produced products,...) HOW can we trust any of these companies with the ethoxyquin in their fish? Even to buy a formula that does not have fish in it? They LIED about the ethoxyquin by not listing it. Is this don't ask, don't tell? At least Orijen and Acana state on the front of the bag they do not use ethoxyquin. But even Orijen/Acana had the issue with irradiation of food???? I just DO NOT know what to feed anymore! So depressing. Right now I have switched to Wellness White Fish & Sweet Potato and Wellness Small Breed. Max needs to lose a pound so I need to be careful of what to feed him (protein and fat).
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10-14-2009, 12:52 PM | #2 |
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| The companies with the fish meal and ethoxyquin issue didn't lie. If they don't put the ingredient in themselves, it doesn't get listed. They don't actually use ethoxyquin. The fish supplier does. The same would go for human food. If you want to feed a food made in the US and you don't want to feed ethoxyqin, then yes, all foods with fish meal need to be avoided. I don't want to say that all dog food companies are bad because I may have to feed the stuff someday, but really even the "holistic" foods are still bottom of the barrel in comparison to what humans get (unless these companies would like to give tours and prove otherwise). The better and fresher food goes to people. And unless the food is fit for human consumption, it probably isn't the quality that we get. There is no legal definition for "human grade" which I see lots of companies like to use. That doesn't mean human grade food isn't fit for human consumption, but it might not be. I think if you are concerned with Natura, Natural Balance, all foods made by Diamond, Orijen, Wellness, and grocery store brands, there is nothing else to go to. What about NV kibble?
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10-14-2009, 12:59 PM | #3 | |
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10-14-2009, 01:00 PM | #4 | |
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10-14-2009, 01:03 PM | #5 |
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| Thanks, Crystal. I just wanted to make sure that I was understanding all that I've been reading on this.
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10-14-2009, 01:50 PM | #6 |
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| Nature's Variety... Have they had any "issues"? The pet store near here carries it. Prairie or Instinct in a bunch of flavors. Prairie is higher protein. Instinct is lower protein. Which flavors of NV are good to try?
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10-14-2009, 01:54 PM | #7 |
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| I love NV Instinct. But, they all contain salmon meal or another fish meal so they're probably out for you. I've never tried any of the Prairie line but you might check their ingredients.
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10-14-2009, 02:16 PM | #8 |
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| So if any dog food has salmon meal it contains ethoxyquin? If it is made in the USA & no matter what the company tells us? I am getting confused?
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10-14-2009, 02:22 PM | #9 | |
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It goes something like this. You buy a loaf of wheat bread. The ingredients listed are wheat flour, salt, sugar, and water. Before the bread company bought the wheat, it was sprayed with pesticides. Whatever chemical was used will not be listed because the bread company didn't actually use it, their supplier did. In the case of fish meal, ethoxyquin is evidently required to preserve it (i.e. the government says so). To be sure this is the case, you could contact Nature's Variety and ask them specifically if their fish meal was ever preserved with ethoxyquin even if they didn't do it themselves.
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10-14-2009, 02:52 PM | #10 | |
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10-14-2009, 04:45 PM | #11 |
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| So...NO Fish Meal Types of any kind or ANY brand? This includes Wellness even though they did not use it? It was in it before they bought it???? Are there any foods out there that are like this? I know NB has some non-fish meal foods. Any others? Thanks
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10-14-2009, 04:50 PM | #12 |
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| Are you opposed to a raw diet? By far the healthiest and best food you can feed your little carnivore. There's a good link here with raw food info, posted by Wylie's mom I think. Give it a look and keep an open mind. Raw is what your dog was MADE to eat! |
10-14-2009, 04:55 PM | #13 |
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| I was looking at the NV raw
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10-14-2009, 05:08 PM | #14 |
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| I LOVE Nature's Variety Instinct. It's the only food my picky dog adores and eats well. I think it's got great ingredients in it! I'm really really happy with this brand. It's never had any issues I've heard of and another member posted in my thread http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-instinct.html that They make Natures Variety here in NE they are one of my accounts.. I have to tell you I went in and toured the place... it was so clean in there you can eat off the floor. It smells like food not dog food. it is a Great Place!
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10-14-2009, 05:21 PM | #15 |
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| Have you tried Nature's Variety Raw...It has really really really worked for us!!! Apple dances for it....And it's so convenient, as long as you don't forget to take out the medallions the night before and put them in the fridge to thaw lol... |
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