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09-22-2009, 04:26 PM | #1 |
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| Canine Influenza vaccine I just received a newsletter from my veterinary hospital. Here's what it says: {Since the recent outbreaks of Canine Influenza in Fairfax, VA and in northern North Carolina, we highly recommend the Canine Influenza vaccine for all of our canine patients. The vaccine will be given in a series of two injections to be administered two weeks apart.The vaccination will be required for all canine patients admitted into the hospital for boarding, grooming, surgery, or hospitalization.We strongly recommend that if you are planning to board your dog with us over the Thanksgiving or Christmas holidays that you call us immediately to schedule an appointment to begin the vaccination process. Dogs must have had the initial vaccine at least two weeks before their scheduled boarding date to be eligible for admittance to the kennel. Unfortunately, in order to protect the health of our other boarding guests, we will be unable to admit unvaccinated dogs into our boarding facilities.} Has anyone here had their dogs vaccinated against the Canine Influenza?Should i get Hailey vaccinated for it? |
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09-22-2009, 04:52 PM | #2 |
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| It never ceases to amaze me the types of vaccines the drug companies will come out with...... From what I understand this vaccine does not prevent a dog from getting the flu. It just lessens the symptoms. IF and that is a big if, the dog did come in contact with the flu virus it is a mild, self limiting illness. I think the general population of home kept dogs are not in need of this.... These may shed a different point of view from the vets.... Should you vaccinate your dog for Canine Influenza? Dog Flu: Does Your Dog Need the New Vaccine? | Truth4Dogs
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09-22-2009, 05:03 PM | #3 |
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| Jacquelyn Martin/Associated Press Published: June 29, 2009 - NY Times There is a new flu virus going around. It initially looked quite lethal, and caused panic. Now it is clear that it has killed relatively few victims — and many of those have underlying conditions. It is particularly dangerous to be the possessor of a pushed-in nose — that is, to be a Pekingese, a pug or a Shi-Tzu. The virus, scientists believe, jumped from horses to dogs at least five years ago, but it has never infected a human. Last week, the United States Department of Agriculture announced that it had approved the first vaccine for it. While fears of a flu pandemic among humans have shifted from the lethal H5N1 avian flu to the relatively mild H1N1 swine flu, the H3N8 canine flu has been a quiet undercurrent in the United States, rarely discussed except among veterinarians and dog owners in the few areas where it has struck hard: Florida, New York City’s northern suburbs, Philadelphia and Denver. In line with the virologists’ adage that the only predictable thing about flu viruses is that they are unpredictable, the dog flu has baffled those following it. “I don’t think we know what this virus is going to do yet,” said one of its discoverers, Dr. Cynda Crawford of the University of Florida veterinary school. When Dr. Crawford began studying it in January 2004, it had come to her notice as a mysterious cough and pneumonia that killed a third of the greyhounds at a Florida dog track. By the next year, she had found it in seven states and had shown that it could be passed by dogs who just rubbed noses on the street or shared a water dish, and that humans could carry it on their clothes. There was a brief flurry of fear that it would kill 1 percent to 10 percent of the country’s 70 million dogs. It has proved about as deadly as Dr. Crawford predicted. She estimates that by itself, it kills 5 percent of the dogs that catch it. Add the deaths at shelters that eliminate the virus by killing all their dogs and disinfecting their cages, and the total mortality rate is 8 percent. (By contrast, the mortality rate of the 1918 Spanish flu in humans was about 2 percent.) But it has not spread nearly as vigorously as she expected. It has now been found in 30 states, but almost exclusively in settings where dogs live closely together: shelters, pet stores, kennels and dog schools. Because the owners of these establishments have learned to turn away sick dogs just as school principals facing swine flu send home sick children, the disease’s progress has been slowed. “Probably over 10,000 dogs have been infected,” Dr. Crawford said, “but I can’t say whether it’s 20,000 or 30,000. In a population of 70 million, that’s a drop in the bucket.” Dr. Edward J. Dubovi of the veterinary school at Cornell University, another discoverer of the virus, said it is “probably not as well adapted to dogs as it could be.” It took five mutations to let it jump to dogs from horses, where it had circulated for 40 years. Another mutation or two “could make it a very serious issue,” he said, but at the moment, “it takes a certain density of dogs to keep it going.” Some veterinarians have found that the dogs that tend to die from it are the “brachycephalics” — dogs with short snub noses. Just as obesity has proved dangerous to human flu victims because of the weight on their chests, being bred to have a short, bent respiratory tract is dangerous for dogs. “It really puts a strain on their ability to breathe,” Dr. Crawford said. “They can’t move air in and out of their lungs.”
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09-22-2009, 05:03 PM | #4 |
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| Everything I have read about this vaccine indicates it is unecessary and pretty ineffective. I hate scare tactics so vets can make more money ~ perhaps at the expense of our babies' health!!!!!
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09-22-2009, 06:00 PM | #5 | |
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That said, I sure wouldn't vaccinate for it anymore than I plan to vaccinate myself for the swine flu or flu flu or whatever other flu they develop.
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09-22-2009, 08:40 PM | #6 | |
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I know of people going to the vets and getting shots for diseases that are not even in their area. A lot of people trusts their vets and don't realize they need to do a lot of research or the vet could be suggestioning things that could harm our dogs...like lepto.
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09-22-2009, 09:07 PM | #7 |
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| You got that right Cindy!...It's all at the expense of our pets, it's just sickening....It just burns me up when they target our children and pets, trying to make us feel like bad pet/ moms for not giving them every vaccine under the sun......Consider this..... One dose of rabies vaccine costs the vet about 61 cents. The client is typically charged between $15 and $38, plus a $35 office visit. The markup on the vaccine alone is 2,400 percent to 6,200 percent -- a markup equivalent to charging $217 for a loaf of bread. According to one estimate, removing the one-year rabies vaccination and consequential office visit for dogs alone would decrease the average small vet’s income from $87,000 to $25,000 -- and this doesn’t include cats or other vaccinations. According to James Schwartz, author of Trust Me, I’m Not a Veterinarian, 63 percent of canine and 70 percent of feline vet office visits are for vaccinations. Clearly, radically changing the vaccine schedule for dogs and cats would result in a huge economic loss for any veterinary practice that is built around shots. And chances are the vaccines you are paying so much for are creating even more income for vets, because the adverse reactions and other medical issues caused by the vaccines keep Fluffy coming back often! The profits for vets pale in comparison to the profits being enjoyed by vaccine manufacturers. Veterinary vaccine sales amounted to more than $3.2 million in 2004 and have risen 7 percent per year since 2000. This figure is projected to exceed $4 billion in 2009. Six companies account for more than 70 percent of world veterinary vaccine sales. The market leader is Intervet, with sales of almost $600 million in 2004. That’s a whole lot of 61-cent vaccines.
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09-24-2009, 04:41 PM | #8 | |
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What I was referring to is that the vets are not developing these vaccines, it's the pharmaceutical companies. Yes, most are headed by vets and of course the research is done by vets, but your local veterinarian is not sitting behind his desk thinking of ways to get the most money out of your pockets by vaccinating for any and everything and performing costly and unnecessary procedures. Pharmaceutical companies then formulate research and educate the veterinarians on these vaccines, *most* of the time the vet truly believes in what they are recommending and isn't trying to screw you.
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