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Old 08-05-2009, 10:10 AM   #1
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Question nueter or no??? PLEASE HELP

lil copper is going 8 months old and i am a little afraid to get him ''FIXED''....so can someone let me know what yall on yt think i should do.. Copper is only 3 lbs and another thing is....... kinda embarrrising. when we hold him his private begins to show..... will nuerter stop that or not???? and if Copper is still squating will nuertering him make him hike....
PLEASE PLEASE LET ME KNOW.....

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here is a pic of lil copper
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I think everyone will tell you to get him fixed.

I dont think I will get Toby fixed, unless he starts showing agression or running away. There are less health benefits to the male from the procedure than for females.

I dont think its right to put him through it for my own convenience (ie marking etc). I lost Millie to her spay earlier this year.

I'm not saying never, but just not now, and maybe not ever.....

I think you need to read up on it and make your own decisions.

A lot of people will tell you to get it done for puppy control.
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As a pet owner, I feel the responsibility to spay/neuter my pets to ensure that they do not contribute to the overpopulation of homeless animals.

I find that there are many benefits.

Benefits of Neutering (Castrating) Male Dogs & Puppies

It is a decision you should make on your own, but I recommend doing some research to make your decision
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I agree to spay and neutering pets. I feel it is in their best interests.

My TJ was 8 months and 2.5 lbs when he was neutered. He doesn't mark inside the house and he doesn't hump. He isn't aggressive. He does squat sometimes and sometimes he lifts his leg (depends on his mood )
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here is a pic of lil copper
He has got to be the MOST adorable boy I have seen.

I absolutly LOVE his coloring....OH MY - I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo jealous!
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Just so you see some of the arguments on the other side....

Canine Sports Productions: Early Spay-Neuter Considerations for the Canine Athlete
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I agree to spay and neutering pets. I feel it is in their best interests.

My TJ was 8 months and 2.5 lbs when he was neutered. He doesn't mark inside the house and he doesn't hump. He isn't aggressive. He does squat sometimes and sometimes he lifts his leg (depends on his mood )
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My aunts 2 yr old is not neutered and is behaviourly the same as this. (he has an undescended testicle and surgery is too risky to neuter).
Although all those points you mention are in our best interest.

Again, puppy control is a human convenience - we dont have to be just as vigilent as if they were in tact.

Healthwise, I have read up, and there are a lot of arguments to say that the side effects of neutering males (females is less clear cut) outweigh the benefits.
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Me again:

On balance, it appears that no compelling case can be made for neutering most male dogs, especially
immature male dogs, in order to prevent future health problems. The number of health problems associated
with neutering may exceed the associated health benefits in most cases.

On the positive side, neutering male dogs
• eliminates the small risk (probably <1%) of dying from testicular cancer
• reduces the risk of non-cancerous prostate disorders
• reduces the risk of perianal fistulas
• may possibly reduce the risk of diabetes (data inconclusive)

On the negative side, neutering male dogs
• if done before 1 year of age, significantly increases the risk of osteosarcoma (bone cancer); this is a
common cancer in medium/large and larger breeds with a poor prognosis.
• increases the risk of cardiac hemangiosarcoma by a factor of 1.6
• triples the risk of hypothyroidism
• increases the risk of progressive geriatric cognitive impairment
• triples the risk of obesity, a common health problem in dogs with many associated health problems
• quadruples the small risk (<0.6%) of prostate cancer
• doubles the small risk (<1%) of urinary tract cancers
• increases the risk of orthopedic disorders
• increases the risk of adverse reactions to vaccinations
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My aunts 2 yr old is not neutered and is behaviourly the same as this. (he has an undescended testicle and surgery is too risky to neuter).
Although all those points you mention are in our best interest.

Again, puppy control is a human convenience - we dont have to be just as vigilent as if they were in tact.

Healthwise, I have read up, and there are a lot of arguments to say that the side effects of neutering males (females is less clear cut) outweigh the benefits.
TJ also had an undescended testicle that they had to search for and remove during the neuter.
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Here is a relatively impartial report on previous studies on this subject...

http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongT...uterInDogs.pdf
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Again, puppy control is a human convenience - we dont have to be just as vigilent as if they were in tact.
At times, it does not matter how vigilant we are. If they want to mate, they will find a way. It is nature. I don't want to contribute to the shelters.

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i got my boy sonny done a about 3 weeks ago . he was only 10 months. he was a bit drousy after op but soon came round. he is a happy healthy pup.
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Another report that tries to weigh up both sides

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At times, it does not matter how vigilant we are. If they want to mate, they will find a way. It is nature. I don't want to contribute to the shelters.

I dont really believe that. If its a house dog and you have a fenced yard, you are in control of where it is at. Sure, there are times where he might slip out the front door, or the front gate, but I know Toby would not get far enough away before I got him to be able to do the "deed".

Unless of course he was unsupervised, and allowed to wander about the neighbourhood, then yes, I can see where you are coming from.

What about all the breeders, and those who are showing... are all their dogs slipping off and overpopulating?
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