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02-06-2005, 01:11 PM | #1 |
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| Possible Yorkie Illness - Need Advice / Help * A * S * A* P * Hello all; I'm a bit shaken up right now. I have a 2 year old male yorkie and am terrified after what appeared to be a neurological illness. Before I proceed, let me reassure you that he will be at the most competent local vet Monday, if at all possible. I hope that someone could possibly help me regardless. He was eating a treat (nothing out of the ordinary) and fell on his side. His back arched (opposite direction of fetal position) and he licked his nose quite a bit. I called him and he walked, very low to the ground, with his rear legs spread quite a bit. I believe that his pupils dialated, but I am not certain of this. He was VERY shakey, definately frightened. Gradually, over perhaps 3 minutes at the most, he recovered fully, abeit remain shaken up for a few more minutes. We had witnessed something similar once, perhaps 2-3 months ago. We're around him most of the day, but I cannot rule out that it has happened in our absense. With the former case, it was under a minute. In that situation, we called him to bed and he walked like he was "drunk", again, with the rear legs spread out, keeping close to the ground, and seemingly unable to walk in a straight line. In that case, we flipped out so much, that I fear we scared him. Regardless, within a minute, he was normal, so we decided that we could have imagined it (it was late, perhaps he was tired or stiff, etc.) I don't know how else to describe it. The pupil dialation may or may not have occured. His tounge was NOT hanging out. (I've read that this is indicative of a siezure.) Anyway, he's going in ASAP but I wondered if anyone has any suggestions. Are there any diseases common to Yorkies that resemble this? What sort of tests should be performed? How worried should I be? Any information would be most appreciated. Please help.... The Nickster... |
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02-06-2005, 01:36 PM | #2 |
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| your yorkie is pretty young to have any sort of degenerative nuerological illness.... has he bumped into anything?? fallen ? sometimes they can have a neurological disorder if their head has been banged around pretty good... |
02-06-2005, 01:40 PM | #3 |
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| There is a lady who posts on the message board "*********.com" She has a dog named Pepper who seems to have these same kinds of "spells" She calls it going "Dingy" He sometimes does exactly what you described. I don't remember her name, but if you post over there, she may be able to give you some advice. If I recall correctly, she has had Pepper to a number of vets and believes that she may have a diagnosis. Sorry not to be more help. |
02-06-2005, 01:41 PM | #4 |
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| Have you had a bile acid test done on him. Livershunt has symptoms similar to what you have described, but so do other things. It sounds like a sizure of some sort. |
02-06-2005, 01:56 PM | #5 |
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| Yes, could it be some sort of seizure? I have heard a handful of people with similar problems with their Yorkie. Have you taken him to the vet for tests? Or call and ask the breeder you got him from if it's in his family history to have such occurrences. |
02-06-2005, 03:53 PM | #6 |
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| Wow - thank you all so much... Hello again; I am so thankful to all of you for responding so quickly. Any more info would be most appreciated, of course. I'll keep you posted as soon as he's back from the vet. Meanwhile, I'll try to track down the breeder and see if they know anything. It's several hours later and he's been back to normal completely. Todays game seems to be carrying his treat around and putting it down near the other two (matching chocolate s**tzu's). He's trying to get them to take it, so he can run off with it. We have a projection television system. Big, wall sized image... Whenever a horse or dog is on the TV, he goes nuts, barking at it and trying to jump high enough to "get" it. After his jumping, he runs back to us, looking for approval. When we first got him, he'd do much of the same and then run to the opposite side of the wall, so I think he believes it's a window... Strange doggie? Or just a typical Yorkie? The s**tzu's are apathetic to the television. Anyway, I just came back to the computer, hoping for any response. It made me feel great that there were several. I'm new here, but I think I'll be staying. Such nice people... Thanks again... The Nickster... |
02-06-2005, 06:43 PM | #7 |
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| I had a Yorkie, Oscar, for 13 years...He started doing the same thing when he was about 4-5 years old. I am a nurse and the whole episode appeared to me to be something like a seizure....except for the part where he could respond and walk "drunk". My greyhound, who normally didn't give Oscar a second look, could tell when he was going to have a "spell" and would start following him around and licking on his back. There were times Oscar would have these spells every 2 months or so and then he would take a time that he only had 2 or 3 all year. The vet felt like they were some sort of seizure activity but hesitated using any type of seizure meds unless they started happening monthly or more. As I observed Oscar more I noticed his abdomen always felt tight and bloated when this happened. I began to notice they DID happen more often if we over-indulged him with table foods/treats. I don't mean one snack/scrap and the spell would happen...but times that we wre giving him too much good stuff ....after a week or so it would happen again. Do take him to the vet....I'm curious what he thinks may be going on. P.S. When I mentioned it to a "fill-in" vet she said it sounded like "gas-attack" from table food.......I think I laughed under my breath and never saw her again. I'm pretty good at knowing the difference between gas and a seizure. |
02-06-2005, 07:27 PM | #8 |
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| Sounds like the same illness... Hello; Now that you mention it, I did notice that during the "spell" that his stomach felt particulary "bloated" and "tight..." Do you think that your dog was in any pain during these "spells?" Could this be digestive related in it's entirety? I wondered if it was some sort of a "stomach cramp" sort of thing. For a seven pound doggie, he really has quite the appetite. I'll definately post what the vet has to say. Meanwhile, I'll try to get in touch with the breeder and track down that other yorkophile that was mentioned in an earlier response. Thanks so much... I'm feeling a bit better hearing that I'm not alone. Fingers are still crossed, though. The Nickster (woof) |
02-06-2005, 11:23 PM | #9 |
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| The Nickster: I'd say the reaction to the TV is typical Yorkie, as my Yoda growls and goes up to our TV and barks when there's any type of horse or bull is on. He knows it's an animal and just doesn't want any other animals in HIS HOUSE! |
02-07-2005, 01:07 AM | #10 |
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| Yes I definitely would mention a bile acid test to the Vet. ......I had a dog with severe liver shunt, she pressed her head against the wall, drooled, walked very stiffly and "drunken", drank excessive amonts of water. It started as a puppy (told by breeder she had hypoglycemia) then it gradually got worse. It was missed several vet visits and my poor baby died. SO it sure wouldnt hurt to put a bug in the vets ear on a bile test. I think alot of vets if they arent working alot with yorkies miss this diagnosis. I hope your pup is ok! |
02-07-2005, 06:15 AM | #11 |
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| This has happend to my Beaker also... if you go under the fourm (my yorkie) page 2 and read the post (Beaker scared me last night), you will see it sounds like what has been happening to beaker... also as debi said, except the getting up and walking like he is drunk... Last edited by LittleBeakerBoy; 02-07-2005 at 06:18 AM. |
02-07-2005, 10:22 AM | #12 |
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| Hmmm, this is really intersting that a few people have posted with the same symptoms with their Yorkies. I am really curious to find out what the vet(s) are diagnosing this all as. Please keep us posted..
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02-07-2005, 11:19 AM | #13 |
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| my beaker just had one of those attacks again... and this time after he did get up he did walk around as if he were drunk... i quickly gave him kayro syrup and he was fine.... |
02-07-2005, 03:46 PM | #14 |
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| Did Beaker have anything to eat prior to his attacks? I know that after Ernie's first attack, he had just eaten a few green beans (bad me feeding him table food). He was eating one of those dentabones during his second attack... I am just curious if this is food/intestinal/gas related? |
02-07-2005, 09:42 PM | #15 |
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| no beaker did not eat anything prior to his attack.... i never feed him table scraps either.. i do believe its from hypoglycemia.....and maybe it could be for your dog too... but the vet is the only one to know.... the breeder i did buy him from did tell me that these attacks could accure cause of his hypoglycemia... |
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