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09-16-2008, 04:05 PM | #1 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| How long does it take? Does anyone know how long it should take for food to get broken up after swallowing? Last night after eating Ellie felt kind of bloated and part of her stomach was hard. It was still bigger than usual this morning and I decided to have her skip breakfast. I gave her lunch probably around 3 and a few minutes ago she threw it up. She doesn't chew very much and evidently didn't chew her noodles because is was a pile of elbow macaroni. Something isn't quite right (she is acting fine) and I wonder if it is her pancreas again. She is very itchy again. I let her have something I shouldn't have last week (bread with corn something or other in it) and that might have done it but I'm not sure since she has Cheerios occasionally and they also have a corn ingredient. Or maybe it was the wheat in the bread. Or maybe the reintroduction of a meat we don't use often. Anyway, she got itchy the first time she had a pancreas issue too. I was thinking it was an allergy to the meat she was on but don't know now. I'm kind of confused. Anyway, I'm done rambling but shouldn't that have been broken up by say 4 or 5 o'clock?
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09-16-2008, 04:33 PM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Well, even with a bunch of facts at our hands - the tummy is a weird place. If she had noodles - the mouth and pancreas should've released amylase to start the breakdown of that carb, so, one would think you'd see some breakdown. But, if she was bloated from yesterday and had some slowing of her system - it makes me wonder if she's having some delayed emptying of the gastric contents, so perhaps this slows the enzymatic process as well (thinking out loud here) - therefore, the whole noodles. Now I'll get kinda gross here. I can tell you in humans (and with my dogs, actually) - that I've seen delayed emptying for more than 24 hours - and I've seen humans vomit what they've had for dinner the next day (ie, some noodles, or whatever, are still in the tummy the next day). So, the tummy can stay quite still at times. As for whether it's related to pancreatitis, you're wayyyyy more qualified to answer that question than me.
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09-16-2008, 04:44 PM | #3 | |
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You're so good at this stuff. So, if amylase is released to digest food and amylase levels are higher in dogs with pancreatitis, it makes me think that under digestion isn't related (because massive amounts of amylase are being released to do that) but overdigesting (the pancreas starts to gets digested in pancreatitis I think) may be??? Hmm, I don't know and she is putting weight on but I don't know why her stomach doesn't feel just right since yesterday. We are cutting back on food now. It sounded like she wanted to throw up last night after eating but didn't. Goodness, I hope this doesn't mean more vet bills. I think I will just pulled food because it can't hurt at this point and just give Pedialyte.
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09-16-2008, 04:55 PM | #4 |
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| Not sure about dogs but I just had a food emptying study done myself and according to the nurse my food should have started to digest by 3 hours after my meal. My system was so out of whack for several months...my food just sat there and kept me from getting hungry which explains the nausea and weight loss...can't eat...can't gain. You might want to call your vet and ask how it works with a dog. Is she going to the bathroom o.k? do you think she could have eaten something that may be causing a blockage? That would also possibly make her stomach feel hard. Is she keeping any liquids down? One more thing...it sounds like you're feeding her homecooked...are you sure her food was o.k? Last edited by my2boyz; 09-16-2008 at 04:56 PM. |
09-16-2008, 05:12 PM | #5 | |
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I think this is where it gets even weirder. Because I wonder, even though she might be spilling amylase, if she is really digesting at all - today I mean. Makes me wonder if there is a middle man (receptor, catalyst) btwn the amylase and it reaching the actual contents, which I can't recall at the moment. Meaning, she's maybe producing excess amylase, but it's not reaching the food, her tummy becomes upset with the undigested food and she becomes bloated and also gets sick. But then, you're also saying that, on the flip side, at other times she may be over-digesting and perhaps over-absorbing as well.
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09-16-2008, 05:29 PM | #6 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| To the last two responses, yes she is going to the bathroom okay. I think she pooped twice today though and she usually goes once. She does eat homecooked and I am sure the quality is fine but one of the ingredients I am questioning now. Three hours (at least in humans) does make sense to me. That is what I was thinking...it should only take a couple hours. If we keep having problems I will make a vet appt. By the way, it is nice to see you in the health and diet section. Ann, I really just don't know. I know that dogs with pancreatitis tend to have high amylase but Ellie's has never come back high so far. It was diagnosed through ultrasound... She seems fine now (after eating her, um, vomit). She is holding that down. GROSS. I guess just in case it is her pancreas food should be pulled, so the problem doesn't get worse. That is standard protocol here when there is an upset stomach because I don't want it to turn to something worse and have her put on IVs. If she is feeling better tomorrow I will probably try potato.
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09-16-2008, 05:44 PM | #7 | |
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09-17-2008, 06:36 AM | #8 | |
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Your boys have it good too.
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09-17-2008, 06:41 AM | #9 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Is she feeling any better?
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09-17-2008, 06:50 AM | #10 |
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