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08-08-2005, 11:43 AM | #1 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Paris, France
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| Help my itching, biting, smelly yorkie Corky! This is my first post. I hope someone can offer some help and advice. My 11 year old male castrated yorkie is constantly scratching and biting. He was fine until a few weeks ago, never any trouble or problems. Yes, we have been to the vet. Two different vets, first one in the USA and then one in France. We moved him to France in mid June. The French vet took scrapings and tests because he thought Corky might have some pest, nothing. He gave him a course of anti-inflammatory shots, cortizone cream and antibiotics for a week. Corky seemed better for a few days then we left on holiday. By the time we returned two weeks later the vet had left on his holiday for the entire month of August! What are hot spots? He actually gets very hot too sometimes, especially on his chest and tummy area. He gets sweaty as well and I thought dogs aren't supposed to perspire. He tends to bite his thighs, knees. It kills me. I can't leave him alone unless I put socks on his rear paws to keep him from ripping up his skin more. He sweats as well and for the first time he has a terribly unpleasant odor, possibly slightly yeasty unless I am mistaken. Even after a bath (with vet prescribed shampoo) he smells immediately. This odor is not from his mouth. His diet normally consists of ground lamb, green beans, boiled egg, Eukenuba dog food for seniors, and onions all mixed together. However, the itching did get worse when we went on holiday in the South of France and Italy for two weeks and were feeding him a combination of meat patties and store bought dog food (not much). On the positive side, he is eating (once per day), and drinking well but not excessively. His weight is pretty stable at 3.5 kilograms (8 lbs?) He is loving, alert and going to the toilet as he should. Seeing him itch until he bleeds breaks my heart. He hates the socks and I am losing sleep both from the sounds he makes all night and from worry. Thanks for any help any of you can offer. Last edited by Travelvixen; 08-08-2005 at 11:48 AM. |
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08-08-2005, 11:51 AM | #2 |
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| You might wanna try a higher quality food like nutro and oatmeal baths. Also you shouldn't feed your dog onions they are bad for dogs.
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08-08-2005, 12:00 PM | #3 |
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| Thanks and how do I give him an oatmeal bath? Is there a recipe? We've only had him a couple of months. He was my mothers dog before. |
08-08-2005, 12:05 PM | #4 |
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| I think you can buy shampoo with oatmeal in it at places like petco. Also the Fosters and Smith catalog has everything. I have also read where people on here have recommended tea tree oil.
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08-08-2005, 12:23 PM | #5 |
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| I've even seen oatmeal shampoo at Wal-Mart, but she's in France???? P.S. I thought you weren't supposed to give dogs onions.
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08-08-2005, 12:33 PM | #6 |
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| I got some oatmeal shampoo, from the vet.
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08-08-2005, 12:34 PM | #7 |
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| ps.... I luv Corky the Yorkie.
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08-08-2005, 12:35 PM | #8 |
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| On onions, here is the reference: ONIONS AND GARLIC Both onions and garlic contain the toxic chemical thiosulphate. As thiosulphate levels build up in a dog’s body, they cause severe problems with the body’s red blood cells. Dogs can become ill after either eating one large amount of onion or regular smaller meals containing onions. All forms of onions are equally dangerous, whether they are raw, cooked, or included in a recipe, one reason to be especially careful with table scraps. Onions contain more of the toxic ingredient than garlic. While the potential for illness still exists, a dog would have to eat much larger quantities of garlic to become dangerously ill. http://www.your-answer.com/dogs/pet-dogs-bad-foods.htm
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08-08-2005, 12:45 PM | #9 |
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| This mentions treating hot spots. Hope something helps. Let us know what happens. OK? What can I do to treat a hot spot? The first thing to do is speak with your veterinarian. Due to the rapidity of spread and possibility of deeper skin infection, it is wise to start treatment with your vet. Also, these hot spots can be very painful to the animal -- caution is advised, use a muzzle if need be for your protection. Shave the area. The first treatment for hot spots is to dry them out and get air to the area. Hair loss is a feature of hot spots, but hair can also mat over the inflamed area, covering up a potentially much more severe and large problem. Cleanse the area with cool water and a gentle skin cleanser. Cool compress the area 2-4 times a day with a cool wet washcloth. Medications - Depending on the severity and size of the hot spot, your veterinarian may prescribe oral antibiotics, topical drying sprays or medications, and/or special shampoos. Prevention of licking, biting, scratching -i.e. Elizabethan collar Additional home remedies that can be used until you can see your vet: tea bag compresses (black or green tea) to help dry the area out. Tea can be used as a wash or as a compress. Domeboro's (Burow's) solution (aluminum acetate) - available over-the-counter at pharmacies to help dry the skin out. Can be used as a compress or as a spray. Hydrocortisone creams - Some people advocate using a thin film of an over-the-counter hydrocortisone cream. I would recommend talking to your vet first -- in general, creams and ointments only serve to "gunk up" the area and prevent proper drying if used incorrectly. Also, if the pet licks it, you want to make sure that it isn't toxic. http://vetmedicine.about.com/cs/dogd...a/hotspots.htm
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08-08-2005, 01:19 PM | #10 |
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| Thanks for the information. I don't know if Corky has a hot spot. He is actually "hot" in some areas though they are not the same areas he chews and scratches nor are they red or inflamed or anything, just "hot" in temperature to the touch. The onions were unfortunately my husbands idea since Corky is such a gourmet. We will remove them from the recipe. Too bad, Corky has a particular liking of onion and garlic. Yes, we are in France, so suggestions of things at Walmart or petco don't do us much good. I do return to the USA occassionally but not often enough for urgent needs. He is OK when he is right next to me or walking but not at night when he is in his bed or alone. In a desparate attempt to get a full nights sleep last night, I tried moving his bed to the other room still giving him run of the flat but not access to my bedroom. He was furious. He barked and barked at the closed door so I was forced to let him in because at 1 am, my neighbors wouldn't appreciate it much. Corky is obedient and sweet when things are done his way. |
08-08-2005, 01:24 PM | #11 |
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| Another suggestion? I suppose you could try a hydrocortisone spray instead of using the cream. Of course, that is assuming that it is available there. The hydrocortisone "stuff" is all the same percentages whether for humans or pets. I used to use it occasionally on my lil' ol' lady Muffin. Other than that I would suggest trying different anti-itch shampoos until I found one that worked. It's pitiful that neither of you can get any relief!
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08-08-2005, 01:28 PM | #12 |
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| Stop the ONIONS, They are TOXIC to dogs... Onions are toxic to dogs. The toxicity is dose dependent, so the bigger the animal, the more onion need be consumed to cause a toxicity. Onion toxicity causes a Heinz body anemia. Heinz bodies are small bubble-like projections which protrude from a red blood cell and can be seen when the cells are stained. This "bubble" is a weak spot in the red blood cell and, therefore, the cell has a decreased life-span and ruptures prematurely. If numerous red cells are affected and rupture, anemia can result. It is a form of hemolytic anemia. Onions are only one of the substances which can cause Heinz body anemia. Other substances such as Acetominophen (Tylenol) and benzocaine-containing topical preparations can also cause Heinz body anemia in the dog. The toxic effect of the onions are the same whether the product is raw, cooked or dehydrated. The hemolytic episode usually occurs several days after onion ingestion (lowest hematocrit around day 5 post ingestion). Daily feeding of onions could have a cumulative effect due to ongoing formation of Heinz bodies versus a single exposure with a wide gap until the next exposure, allowing the bone marrow time to regenerate the prematurely destroyed red cells. THis is what they say about garlic on the site I retrived the infromation from: NOTE: Garlic is safe for your dog used in moderation and can help with a myriad of things such as gas, flea prevention and it has natural antibiotic properties
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08-08-2005, 01:34 PM | #13 |
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| I get the message. I knew about chocolate and sugar, but not onions. I never heard about onions being bad for dogs before, nor the tylenol for that matter. I am glad you mentioned it since it is all we have in the house. I intend to buy some aspirin for Corky in case we ever need to give him a pain killer. On the other hand, the vet recommended baby benedril for bad nights. Do you have any more info on that? I give him 1 cc if he absolutely can't stop the scratching and that let's him sleep. |
08-08-2005, 01:55 PM | #14 |
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| I found this link and it looks like they have a whole lot of stuff for allergies.http://www.google.com/url?sa=l&q=htt...934_____wHIAQE
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08-08-2005, 02:40 PM | #15 |
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| I had a cocker spaniel that acted the same way.(itching, biting,smelling awful) she scratched until she bled. they told me she had a different kind of mange. It turned out that "different kind of mange" was cancer. i am not saying that i think yours has cancer. it just sounded the same as what my Honey went through. i would try all the suggestions that others have given you and if that don't help i would find an alternate vet until the other one gets back from vacation. i forgot to add welcome to yorkie talk.
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