Just gave Millie a raw chicken wing...

[roxies_mom]

The idea of this really freaks me out. I worry about her choking on regular stuff as it is. So you just give a raw chicken wing or leg? What about those little drummettes you can buy raw? Are they the same as a regular raw leg? Very curious about this.

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Hello All,
I'm a raw feeder, actually what's referred to as prey model feeder as there's the BARF method as well. We feed our dogs exclusively the way a dog in the wild would eat as even a domesticated dog's nutritional needs have not evolved passed that of a carnivore. Raw meaty bones, organ meats, fish and eggs are on the menu. No kibble, veggies or fruits, no supplements or anything cooked. Weight bearing bones are a concern if they came from large ungulates like cows as those bones are very dense. However, all parts of chicken is a favorite staple among prey model feeders. There are common misconceptions and myths regarding this diet including the fear of dog to human transference of salmonella. More info on this for anybody who's interested;
Jane Anderson's Raw Learning Site

The Many Myths of Raw Feeding

The Benefits Of A Prey Model Diet

[MauiGirl]

All I can say is YUCK.

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

That's exactly what I said when I found out how kibble is made and what the ingredients are!

Originally Posted by MauiGirl

All I can say is YUCK.

[mizzwanned]

That's interesting...i might try it

[roxies_mom]

If there's nutritional value to it I might consider it. When I think of a my dog eating raw meat I think of worms and parasites! It creeps me out but if I know it's safe I could learn to deal with it.

[Lou]

Originally Posted by roxies_mom

If there's nutritional value to it I might consider it. When I think of a my dog eating raw meat I think of worms and parasites! It creeps me out but if I know it's safe I could learn to deal with it.

I feed mine the raw chicken in order for them to get some of the good bacteria they would get if they were in the wild. I think that would help a lot of little ones with stomach problems.

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Are you referring to enzymes?

Originally Posted by Lou

I feed mine the raw chicken in order for them to get some of the good bacteria they would get if they were in the wild. I think that would help a lot of little ones with stomach problems.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by MauiGirl

All I can say is YUCK.

Hi MauiGirl - I'm guessing you meant no disrespect here, at least I hope not . But, this kind of comment is kind of disrespectful to those of us who feed and believe in raw.

What if you posted something about feeding your dog kibble and I went into your thread and said "All I can say is YUCK!".

Most of us here try to be supportive of all types of feeding - because we all feed different ways for different reasons and I, for one, respect that. So again, while your intent may not have been disrespectful, I think it came off that way - and I would ask in the future that you instead describe how you feel about the topic rather than just post "yuck".

[MauiGirl]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Hi MauiGirl - I'm guessing you meant no disrespect here, at least I hope not . But, this kind of comment is kind of disrespectful to those of us who feed and believe in raw.

What if you posted something about feeding your dog kibble and I went into your thread and said "All I can say is YUCK!".

Most of us here try to be supportive of all types of feeding - because we all feed different ways for different reasons and I, for one, respect that. So again, while your intent may not have been disrespectful, I think it came off that way - and I would ask in the future that you instead describe how you feel about the topic rather than just post "yuck".

I am so VERY sorry, and did not mean to be insensitive or disrespectful in any way. I truly apologize to all who feed raw, I am obviously ignorant when it comes to the benefits of raw diet. I'm new and I am learning. You are right, it was stupid of me to just blurt out my first reaction "yuck", without further discussing my feelings. My tired brain was reacting from a saturation of information on kitchen contamination, etc. especially focusing on safe handling of chicken, and all the paranoia that goes with that. I also have a personal phobia of raw fish (no sushi or sashimi for me, ha ha).

Please forgive my ignorance and accept my most humble apology. I promise I will think before I post, as being kind and courteous is something I truly believe in.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by MauiGirl

I am so VERY sorry, and did not mean to be insensitive or disrespectful in any way. I truly apologize to all who feed raw, I am obviously ignorant when it comes to the benefits of raw diet. I'm new and I am learning. You are right, it was stupid of me to just blurt out my first reaction "yuck", without further discussing my feelings. My tired brain was reacting from a saturation of information on kitchen contamination, etc. especially focusing on safe handling of chicken, and all the paranoia that goes with that. I also have a personal phobia of raw fish (no sushi or sashimi for me, ha ha).

Please forgive my ignorance and accept my most humble apology. I promise I will think before I post, as being kind and courteous is something I truly believe in.

Gosh, MauiGirl, that was probably the most genuine apology I think I've ever seen here! Thank you SO much for posting this, it really meant a lot to me that you said what you did - it was really thoughtful and sensitive. I completely understand where the phobias come from, believe me - but that's not really what I want to focus on at the moment. I just want to say THANK YOU for your post and leave it that, for it was so genuine.

[Gracie2006]

Originally Posted by Wrenee4

The bones do splinter IF they are cooked - they must be raw.

Not necessarily. Evangers cooks their wings and thighs so the bones literally fall apart when you touch them with a fork. I have recreated the same texture by using pressure cooker, it takes 4-6 hours. I make a stew with carrots, chicken wings, sometimes potatoes, other vegies like peas. Then when it cools enough to remove the top, I might add some cooked rice or some pasta and let it cook over the heat until it is done. My girls love it.

[Lou]

Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv

Are you referring to enzymes?

Nope I mean bacteria. Good bacteria. It is called probiotics and they can't get them if they eat nothing but processes food. Their bodies are designed to eat raw.

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Lou,
I applaud you for feeding raw chicken to your dog ! I don't know if your're doing this as part of a prey model diet or not but I'm not worried about that at the moment. I certainly do not want to step on any toes by all means but I'm afraid you may be misinformed about certain components of raw meat. Without going into the exact chemical components of meat, but to summarize the need for carnivores to consume whole prey is that it delivers the necessary fat, protein, vitamins, minerals and enzymes.
Probiotics are microorganisms commonly found in yoghurt, milk, some juices and soy, to name a couple. Probiotics help promote a good gut flora, recommended after a trial of antibiotics and has recently been a debate on raw fed lists as a possible unnecessary supplement to our dogs as the viability of this organism, traveling down a dog's extremely acid digestive tract, is seriously being questioned. When thinking about if dairy is a natural food source for canines, I find myself agreeing with this doubt, although as of yet, scientifically unsubstantiated. Raw, green tripe is a well known remedy for dogs with stomach upsets and lose stools.

Originally Posted by Lou

Nope I mean bacteria. Good bacteria. It is called probiotics and they can't get them if they eat nothing but processes food. Their bodies are designed to eat raw.

[Lou]

Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv

Lou,
I applaud you for feeding raw chicken to your dog ! I don't know if your're doing this as part of a prey model diet or not but I'm not worried about that at the moment. I certainly do not want to step on any toes by all means but I'm afraid you may be misinformed about certain components of raw meat. Without going into the exact chemical components of meat, but to summarize the need for carnivores to consume whole prey is that it delivers the necessary fat, protein, vitamins, minerals and enzymes.
Probiotics are microorganisms commonly found in yoghurt, milk, some juices and soy, to name a couple. Probiotics help promote a good gut flora, recommended after a trial of antibiotics and has recently been a debate on raw fed lists as a possible unnecessary supplement to our dogs as the viability of this organism, traveling down a dog's extremely acid digestive tract, is seriously being questioned. When thinking about if dairy is a natural food source for canines, I find myself agreeing with this doubt, although as of yet, scientifically unsubstantiated. Raw, green tripe is a well known remedy for dogs with stomach upsets and lose stools.

Ouch...my toes are killing me! LOL just kidding.
Your info is quite valuable - Thank you!