Pre-Surgical / Non-Surgical LPs: What Supplements Are You Using?

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

why are you switching? I like the ingredients in that

I don't know.....!

I just keep hearing about Cosequin and I worry I'm not giving him the best he could have.

Here are some okay prices on Cosequin: Cosequin Regular Capsules 90 Caps 0330 PetMarket.com

And it looks like the comparison, if I was to start Wylie, in ingredients is:

Glucosamine HCl 250 mg
Sodium Chondroitin 200 mg
Ascorbate 16 mg
Manganese 2 mg

So then, why not just look for something w/ a comparable Glu/Chond ratio, you know?

[Wylie's Mom]

Here is where I get my Flexicose: ebay

I don't know what the heck to do.

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Here is where I get my Flexicose: ebay

I don't know what the heck to do.

lol.. i know how you feel! i feel like i am always watching to switch kibble (for the odd time we use it) or switch supplement.. but personally i think i've found a joint suppliement i like and feel good about...

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

The Cosequin is actually the one I'm considering. I don't like the price, but what I DO like is that it appears to me to have been studied and dosed accordingly.

It just makes me curious as to why they don't recommend something like Flexicose, which contains:

Vitamin A 1250 IU
Vitamin C 15 mg
Vitamin E 7.5 IU
Manganese 0.7 mg
Glucosamine HCL&Sulfate 1500 mg
Chondroitin Sulfate 120 mg
Flexibility Complex - Aloe vera gel, MSM, omega 3 fatty acids, niacinamide, yucca root, bromelain, Boswellia serrata

What is in the glucosamine though?
Some ingredients have been shown to be effective while others (like the green lipped muscle I think it is) doesn't have studies backing its effectiveness.
http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/Brochure...20Brochure.pdf

Since dogs don't absolutely need to be supplemented with Vitamin C and giving too much vitamin A is dangerous, it would be okay with me if they left those things out. I would hesitate to give Ellie more vitamin A than is already in her homecooking supplement. It probably isn't enough to do harm but I'm confused why it would be in there at all.

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

lol.. i know how you feel! i feel like i am always watching to switch kibble (for the odd time we use it) or switch supplement.. but personally i think i've found a joint suppliement i like and feel good about...

If you are happy with it, why not use it?
If you aren't happy with it you can always switch later.

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

If you are happy with it, why not use it?
If you aren't happy with it you can always switch later.

that's true. Where we buy it from you are able to bring anything back that you aren't happy with. I think i'm going to go pick it up tomorrow.

[kalina82]

Morgan and Mylie both have LPs (mylie also has the repaired elbows) and i rarely given them a joint supplement now a days. I used to give straight gluco/chondrot capsules for people but they cant be split properly to get accurate amounts in each piece (like heartworm pills).

I've been told (and have researched) that if on a prey-model raw diet you don't need to supplement. you can give chicken feet, beef trachea, and...something else...forgot.... these things are made of a lot of cartilage which is a good natural source of gluco/chondrot.

[Shelby&Seymour]

Shelby has had surgery on both back legs, and she is taking Glucosamine Condroitin. The Physical therapist suggested that she take it everyday... and her vet agrees. (sorry, I know that this is POST not pre surgery.... but I think that it may be beneficial)

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

What is in the glucosamine though?
Some ingredients have been shown to be effective while others (like the green lipped muscle I think it is) doesn't have studies backing its effectiveness.

Ohhhhh...so are you saying it might be the SOURCE of the glucosamine that determines the extent of it's effectiveness, is that it? If so, that's interesting!! Wow. Is that right?

[Wylie's Mom]

OKAY - just read the whole brochure - I GET IT.

We're switching to COSEQUIN. I would like to see the published studies though - so, I'm calling them tomorrow for a copy of the peer-reviewed study.

[Shelby&Seymour]

Our PT told us that there was a study on different brands and types of Glu/Co and she said that the purest was a very in-expensive brand that can be purchased at WALMART!!! I think it was called Spring Valley. I will have to check my bottle, but I think that was it.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Shelby&Seymour

Our PT told us that there was a study on different brands and types of Glu/Co and she said that the purest was a very in-expensive brand that can be purchased at WALMART!!! I think it was called Spring Valley. I will have to check my bottle, but I think that was it.

Aw geeeeesh......

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

OKAY - just read the whole brochure - I GET IT.

We're switching to COSEQUIN. I would like to see the published studies though - so, I'm calling them tomorrow for a copy of the peer-reviewed study.

LOL, I feel funny recommending a product so strongly that I don't give to Ellie but I just think it is the best choice.

As far as another brand being purer, that could be true, but is purer always better? If it is purer but that pureness comes from a glucosamine source that is second best that isn't good either. Also, the G to C ratio has to be correct and then safety comes into play. I really like NutraMax. They seem like a nice company (so far) and hopefully won't have any recalls (ok, I'm dreaming now).