Science Diet

[brunosmom]

Does anyone feed their Science Diet? I was looking at the website and it looks ok but im not sure.Bruno is about out of food so I need to go get him some today. Tyign to figure out what. The link below is what I was thinking about. What do u think?

http://www.hillspet.com/hillspet/products/productDetails.hjsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=84552444176061 7

[brunosmom]

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[missmolly_mtl]

I've heard the Hill's Science Diet is pretty good. I'm looking for a good puppy food myself... I'm even thinking about making dog food at home... though of course I couldn't do that every single day..
Is there any way to call the vet and ask them? I always think the vet makes the best choice, though sometimes the dogs don't like the food..

hrm.... well anyhow good luck!

[nikkinack]

Science diet is not really a good food in my opinion and when you switch you want to do it gradually or your dog will get sick.
Insufficient meat content, use of low quality grains and other controversial fillers, soy, fat of unidentifiable origin.
This is a good site Dog Food Reviews - Hill's Science Diet Adult Small Bites Lamb Meal & Rice Recipe - Powered by ReviewPost

[missmolly_mtl]

Originally Posted by nikkinack

Science diet is not really a good food in my opinion and when you switch you want to do it gradually or your dog will get sick.
Insufficient meat content, use of low quality grains and other controversial fillers, soy, fat of unidentifiable origin.
This is a good site Dog Food Reviews - Hill's Science Diet Adult Small Bites Lamb Meal & Rice Recipe - Powered by ReviewPost

wow, thanks for the post.. I haven't seen this one yet....

Any news on the hill's "prescription diet"?
This line is only sold at the vet...
I would assume it's not much better coming from the same company....
This dog food stuff is soo confusing!

Thanks again for the link!

ps. i'm feeding my dog Nutro Puppy Bites... I'm sure it's really no good.
Still searching for a good dog food.....for my puppy

[Yorkieluv]

I would not feed Nutro at all...They have had many problems with sick dogs. Science diet isn't really great either. In the health and diet section you can find a sticky towards the top that has info on some of the better dog foods.

[nikkinack]

Some good foods are Innova,Merrick,solid gold, Wellness, Natural Balance there are many good foods out there. Lily was on Nutro for a long time because it was all she would eat and my vet said a bad food is better than her eating no food, so every situation is different you just have to do what works best for your dog.

[missmolly_mtl]

Ah... ok... well he's almost through the bag now, so I'll look into something better and start mixing the two for a week or so to get him used to the new brand...
I live in Canada so I'm not sure what's available here and if I'll be able to buy any of those brands, but I'll start looking around..

Thanks again for the info's everyone

xoxMolls&Tobyxox

[SassyAnn101]

I tried to feed Gizmo Science Diet when he was a puppy. He did like it at all, and when he did eat it he ended up sick. I later found out he had a liver shunt. Explained why he would end up sick. Later I gave him Percription Science Diet for liver shunt puppies. It did help him not to be so sick. I also started feeding Tenci Science Diet when we got her. I had no ideal about the differences in foods. Now I feed all four of mine Merrick canned and dry. They Love It. I have not had any problems except for My Trouble (who is the largest of my babies) has loose stools since eating Merrick. In this past week I have went back to feeding him the Science Diet dry food, and he has stopped having loose stools. I dont really know if that was the right thing to do or not.

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by missmolly_mtl

I've heard the Hill's Science Diet is pretty good. I'm looking for a good puppy food myself... I'm even thinking about making dog food at home... though of course I couldn't do that every single day..
Is there any way to call the vet and ask them? I always think the vet makes the best choice, though sometimes the dogs don't like the food..

hrm.... well anyhow good luck!

You can freeze it up ahead, so you only need to cook about once a month.

[missmolly_mtl]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

You can freeze it up ahead, so you only need to cook about once a month.

Good to know!

Do you know of any threads that have good recipes? I'm sure there are some in here, but I may have missed them somehow??
Or do you have any websites or recipies of your own you could share?

Thanks in advance

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by missmolly_mtl

Good to know!

Do you know of any threads that have good recipes? I'm sure there are some in here, but I may have missed them somehow??
Or do you have any websites or recipies of your own you could share?

Thanks in advance

I would recommend getting a nutritionist because the vitamins do need to be done just right. There are no books I'd recommend but some people like Dr. Pitcairns. If you get that one, just make sure to get a newer one and not an older edition. You can buy recipes from BalanceITs website but I'd buy the one where they give you the amounts of human vitamins instead of the one they give you the amount of BalanceIT alone. I don't really like the regular BalanceIT, so I wouldn't recommend it.

There are no recipes on YT (for long-term use with supplements) that I would recommend but I could've missed em'.

[Roseanderson]

I use Science Diet which I got from my breeder. I have not had any problems using and don't know how good it is.

[Paul79UF]

I worked at a vet's office for a few years when I was in high school.

We stocked all of the science diet products and fed the boarded animals it as well.

I remember that the owner/vet and the other vets all fed their dogs science diet so it must be a decent food.

It's definitely better than all the supermarket junk food some of the pet owners would give us to feed their animals while they were boarded with us.

[Ladymom]

Hills/Science Diet isn't really a very good food. Vets carry it because Hills invests heavily in vet schools, teaches seminars, provides scholarships, etc, to encourage vets to recommend it.

It contains a lot of cheap fillers, but the worst is that many of their dry prescription foods contain BHT and Ethoxyquin as preservatives.

Ethoxyquin is listed and identified as a hazardous chemical by OSHA. It has a rating of 3 on a scale of 1 to 6, with 6 being super toxic requiring less than 7 drops to cause death. When manufactured by Monsanto, the containers are marked with the word POISON. Monsanto makes no representations and will not be responsible for damages of any nature whatsoever. The Department of Agriculture lists and controls Ethoxyquin as a pesticide.


Ethoxyquin
Promoted kidney carcinogenesis.
Significantly increased incidence of stomach tumors.
Enhanced bladder carcinogenesis.

BHA
Enhanced stomach and urinary bladder carcinogenesis.
Causes squamous-cell carcinomas in stomachs.
(Cancers of this type are among the most lethal and fastest acting, the swiftest effects being seen among animals with light colored fur.)

BHT
Promoted urinary bladder carcinogenesis.
Could be a promoter of thyroid carcinogenesis.
Studies have noted that BHA and other antioxidants, particularly Propyl Gallate and ethoxyquin, showed additional effects in inducing stomach hyperplasia and cytotoxicity.

According to Dr. Wendell Belfield, DVM, practicing veterinarian for some 26 years, both BHA and BHT are known to cause liver and kidney dysfunction and are banned in some European countries. He adds that ethoxyquin is suspected of causing cancer and that propylene glycol (a pet food ingredient closely related to anti-freeze) causes destruction of red blood cells.

Toxicology of BHA