Vaccinations Question...

[jolissa]

Hi TLC I also live in Farmingville. Their are no laws for yearly vacc. only rabies. Unless you go abroad, then they want health certificates.

[TLC]

Originally Posted by jolissa

Hi TLC I also live in Farmingville. Their are no laws for yearly vacc. only rabies. Unless you go abroad, then they want health certificates.

Thanks. I am going to discuss this with my Vet next time.

[keokis mom]

Thank you for this thread- I live in NYC and have been wondering about vaccines and would love to be better informed on the topic. I feel like my vet is a money maker so would like to have the proper info to go in there and not over vaccinate my baby- it can't be good for them- if anyone has more info please pass it on to me- Thanks!!!!

[CupofDog]

Originally Posted by keokis mom

Thank you for this thread- I live in NYC and have been wondering about vaccines and would love to be better informed on the topic. I feel like my vet is a money maker so would like to have the proper info to go in there and not over vaccinate my baby- it can't be good for them- if anyone has more info please pass it on to me- Thanks!!!!

There are tons of amazing vets in NYC. Check out AHVMA - Home
for referrals to holistic vets that promote limited vaccines and whole food diets. Best of luck!

[LuvMySissy]

We spoke with our vet about this very recently. We will vaccinate only for rabies from now on. According to my vet, with toy breeds - once they get their first year booster of distemper, they most likely will have lifetime immunity. Lepto is no longer recommended by most hoslitic vets as the risks associated with toy breeds and this vaccination far outweight any benefits derived from the vaccine. We have never had the parvo vaccine or anything else other than boratella and we will only do that if we have no choice but to board (which we don't plan to do).

[CupofDog]

I do the same thing. Both my dogs were vaccinated for EVERYTHING before I got them - Louis came from a breeder who gave every vaccine under the sun and since Ella Bean is a rescue, the shelter did the same.

My vet and I had to detox them both homeopathically as they had vaccinosis and we only do rabies now.

[keokis mom]

I am definitely going to look for a holistic vet because Keoki is only 11 months this week so even though he had a ton of vaccines when I first got him/ before I got him I can still put him on the right path and be educated. Thank you sooo much!!!! I have felt clueless about all of this up until now but never felt right about it because he is so small...

[YorkieRose]

Our next club meeting will be devoted to a video from Purina..among the topics will be annual vaccines and the need to no longer give yearly boosters. The AVA has a new vaccine protocal, no yearly vaccinations also. I have not given yearly vaccinatons to any Yorkie for 20 yrs. They get a series of puppy shots 9, 12, 16 and 6 months..a booster at 3 yrs..none after that time. A yearly parvo and 3 yr rabies.

I used to start at 6 weeks, but many vets tell me mothers immunity is more then adequate until 9 weeks..in fact giving too early has the opposite effect on the immune system.

[keokis mom]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Our next club meeting will be devoted to a video from Purina..among the topics will be annual vaccines and the need to no longer give yearly boosters. The AVA has a new vaccine protocal, no yearly vaccinations also. I have not given yearly vaccinatons to any Yorkie for 20 yrs. They get a series of puppy shots 9, 12, 16 and 6 months..a booster at 3 yrs..none after that time. A yearly parvo and 3 yr rabies.

I used to start at 6 weeks, but many vets tell me mothers immunity is more then adequate until 9 weeks..in fact giving too early has the opposite effect on the immune system.

So the next thing he needs is parvo then rabies at 3 years?? That is very good information because I just looked at the schedule that they want me to do and it is as follows; in August 08' Bordetella, November08' DA2PPV Booster ( whatever that is) and then on 7/09 rabies 3 year he will only be 2 years old then??? That does not seem right- if someone has any advice it would be appreciated

[Woogie Man]

Something I just found out is that multi-dose vials of vaccine have preservatives in them. Thymersol was used until 1992 but now the preservative is aluminum. Single dose vaccines don't need a preservative since they are thrown away after the first use. The multi-dose vials would be found at the vet's office. I plan on making sure my vet only uses the single dose vial when any of mine need their rabies. Thymersol is the same preservative suspected to have caused autism in children and aluminum is also known to be dangerous. I give my own vaccines except for the rabies so this is the one I worry about.

[mscat]

I have posted a few times regarding my story with Suzi and her vaccines. She recieved the first two rounds from the breeders before I got her. The problem ran into was that the vet would not agree to the shots she already recieved. AND told me there is no such things as overvaccinating.. That is to me BS. I talked to him on the vet , and he seemed surprised that I knew so much about the topic. He stated that he had a puppy who was vaccinated and still got parvo . After a discussion with the vet, he agreed to modify her schedule.
The second time I took Suzi in I got a different vet. SURE enough the whole topic started over. This time the "new" vet stated that they do not get a guarentee if the vaccine schedule is not followed .I do not know what he was talking about? It seemed like they did get some kind of something for repeated vaccinated any animal. Before I could say anything the vet takes a spray thing out and is using on Suzi, up her nose. He did not even tell me what it was for. I found out it was for kennel cough.
Suzi is scheduled to go back on the 2nd of July .I probably will cancel the appointment, and reschedule for the same vet she had her first visit . Suzi is four months old now, and only needs her rabies. She has technicallay had 4 rounds of vaccinations. PLENTY ! the first round was when she was only 5 weeks, so did not probably be effective. The other three , most certainly are enough.
What bothers me is that these damn vets DO NOT LISTEN TO the Owners wishes. Arrrrg.

[mscat]

Originally Posted by Woogie Man

Something I just found out is that multi-dose vials of vaccine have preservatives in them. Thymersol was used until 1992 but now the preservative is aluminum. Single dose vaccines don't need a preservative since they are thrown away after the first use. The multi-dose vials would be found at the vet's office. I plan on making sure my vet only uses the single dose vial when any of mine need their rabies. Thymersol is the same preservative suspected to have caused autism in children and aluminum is also known to be dangerous. I give my own vaccines except for the rabies so this is the one I worry about.

Hi,
I had to comment on the autism.... AS of right now there is NO proven link at all whatsoever that this is true. NO scientific evidence at all. This all came from the connection of toddlers who had a Dx of Early Infantile Autism. The babies would go in and recieve their rountine shots and supposedly therafter would regress. Language stopping completly. THe parents are the ones who started to think that there was a connection to a certain type of autism/vaccines. Scientists are and continue to study the autism link. MY son has autism, and it was in the 90's when this so called connection started. No offense woogieman, I have also been watching that very carefully too.

[YorkieRose]

You need to read and decide what is best for your dog. The 3 yr. Rabies is good for 3 yrs..some vets give a one yr, some a 3 yr vaccine.

[Woogie Man]

Originally Posted by mscat

Hi,
I had to comment on the autism.... AS of right now there is NO proven link at all whatsoever that this is true. NO scientific evidence at all. This all came from the connection of toddlers who had a Dx of Early Infantile Autism. The babies would go in and recieve their rountine shots and supposedly therafter would regress. Language stopping completly. THe parents are the ones who started to think that there was a connection to a certain type of autism/vaccines. Scientists are and continue to study the autism link. MY son has autism, and it was in the 90's when this so called connection started. No offense woogieman, I have also been watching that very carefully too.

No offense taken. I ran across this info while researching dog vaccines. What I found was that thymersol was used in both dog and human vaccines until 1992 when aluminum was substituted in dog vaccines. There was a bill to remove thymersol from human vaccines but it was vetoed. I also read where a family had won an award (based on the preservative theory) from a fund set up by the vaccine manufacturers, though they admitted no liability. The suspicion alone of preservatives in vaccines causing harm is enough for me to insist on single dose vaccines (which are available) only being used for my dogs. I can only imagine the challenges faced by your son and your entire family. Bless you all.

[Woogie Man]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

You need to read and decide what is best for your dog. The 3 yr. Rabies is good for 3 yrs..some vets give a one yr, some a 3 yr vaccine.

You're exactly right. Everyone needs to decide what is best for their dog but you can't just take a vet's word on it. I switched vets because I had one that insisted on giving the rabies vaccine annually even though, by law, the rabies vaccine used in my state must be the 3 year variety. IMO, the only reason for this is greed, not the welfare of our dogs.