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05-20-2008, 04:01 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: new york city
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| Question about vaccinations - pls help! Hi everyone, I have an important question that has been on my mind. I got Mojo a month ago at 11 weeks. The breeder told me he had all 3 rounds of shots, and gave me the certificate ( i called the vet and he confirmed that Mojo had all 3 rounds of shots and rabies). The breeder also told me that he weened Mojo off his mother's milk when he gave him his first round of shots so that the would take effect. Mojo is now almost 4 months old - does he need more shots? Is three rounds enough? When i took him for his physical, the vet, who i immediately didnt like, said i needed to get his shots every 3 weeks for the next 3 months.. it didnt sound right which is why i called Mojo's original vet who administered his initial shots and he assured me he didnt need anymore.. CAN ANYONE advice me? Thank you so much! I really want to start taking Mojo out on walks and just dont know if its ok to do. thank you!: |
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05-20-2008, 04:10 PM | #2 |
I ♥ Franklin & Maggie Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma
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| Every three weeks for the next three 3 months is WAY.. WAY too much. If your puppy has indeed has 3 three rounds, the most you would need is one more round, depending on when they were started and when the last set was. That is how we'll be able to tell for sure. Do you have that information? Also, good for you for questioning this vet! Too many dogs are WAY over vaccinated these days, it's just not healthy for them. I would find a new vet, if I were you.
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05-20-2008, 04:13 PM | #3 | |
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I dont knw when they were started, but the third round was given the 25th of April.. The certificate said he wasn't due for his shots till next year though... | |
05-20-2008, 04:44 PM | #4 |
I ♥ Franklin & Maggie Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma
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| The reason I ask is because it's important to know how old the puppy was when the vaccination were started. The reason why we give multiple sets is to ensure that we achieve immunity. For the first couple of weeks of life, a puppy gains it's immunity from the mother. A puppy just weaned from it's mother will still have those maternal antibodies which means vaccines don't work because the antibodies essentially neutralize them. If your puppy has had 3 sets since 8 weeks, I'd say your covered. If they were started at 6 weeks, it might be a good idea to ask your vet again.
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05-20-2008, 04:48 PM | #5 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: new york city
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| I see.. i will call the vet tomorrow. Thank you! Even so, it wouldn't hurt to get another round would it? DO you think i can start taking him on walks or should i wait till i have this sorted out? Sorry for asking so many questions! Mojo is my first Yorkie and i just want to be extra careful.. thank you again! |
05-20-2008, 04:55 PM | #6 |
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| There are several vaccination sites that say vaccinations prior to 12 weeks are ineffective as they still have immunity from the mom. New protocol also suggests just two rounds of puppy shots. Keep in mind that toy breeds should be vaccinated different from large dogs. They should not receive a combination vaccine - getting each vaccine individually and at least two weeks apart. This will help to reduce the likelihood of reactions to the vaccine. Lepto is also not recommended unless you live in an area with recent outbreaks. Good luck!!!!!
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05-20-2008, 04:56 PM | #7 | |
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05-20-2008, 08:16 PM | #8 | |
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05-20-2008, 10:51 PM | #9 |
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| The problem is that your breeder started his vaccinations too early. Puppies should not get their first vaccination until they are 9-10 weeks old. Puppies get natural immunities from nursing their mother. These immunities remain in their systems for weeks after they are weaned. If the vaccinations are given too soon, these antibodies attack and kill the viruses in the vaccination leaving your puppy vulnerable to deadly viruses like parvo. It is called the 'window of susceptibility". Window of susceptibility The age at which puppies can effectively be immunized is proportional to the amount of antibody protection the puppy received from its mother. High levels of maternal antibodies present in the puppies' bloodstream will block the effectiveness of a vaccine. When the maternal antibodies drop to a low enough level in the puppy, immunization by a commercial vaccine will work. The antibodies from the mother generally circulate in the newborn's blood for a number of weeks. There is a period of time from several days to several weeks in which the maternal antibodies are too low to provide protection against the disease, but too high to allow a vaccine to work. This period is called the window of susceptibility. This is the time when despite being vaccinated, a puppy or kitten can still contract the disease. Vaccination Recommendations for Puppies (Puppy Shots) Dr. Jean Dodd's vaccination protocol has been adopted by 27 vet schools and is a good one to follow. W Jean Dodds Vaccine Protocol VACCINATION PROTOCOLS |
05-21-2008, 04:41 AM | #10 |
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| In theory, I agree with the vet who said he needs to have them every three weeks for three months because they were given incorrectly before. This could be considered correct, however, there are ways around it, so it isn't necessary. If the vaccines were given once a week for three weeks straight, they would have probably negated each other. If they were given starting at five weeks, maternal antibodies would've interfered. If this were my dog I would probably give one more set after 16 weeks and do titers three weeks later to see if they have taken. Actually, this is what titers are for. You could just do titers now, but since they were all given so young, as sad as it is, I think I'd give another set (maybe even two if the ones already given were totally ineffective).
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