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04-26-2008, 12:06 AM | #1 |
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| My babies have pancreatitis, what food would be best?? I have two yorkies and they both have pancreatitis. My vet has them on Hill's prescription diet I/D. I am not pleased with the nutritional value on the long term. I need to limit their protien and fat intake as it's hard for them to process. Also my older dog has calcium oxolate kidney crystals which adds to my problem. My groomer gave me a sample of Solid Gold Wee Bits and my dogs seemed to like it. Does anyone know if this food would be suitable for a baby with pancreatitis and kidney crystals?
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04-26-2008, 02:35 AM | #2 |
No Longer a Member | i/d is basically chicken and rice. Probably very bland. Do not know the nutritional value, but do know it was a life saver for Gizmo on a couple occasions. We have been thru Pancreatitis twice and HGE once. Reglan, id and antibiotics were his scripts when he came from the hospital those times. After your baby has gone thru this you become a professional "poo inspector". I will keep your kids in my prayers. |
04-26-2008, 05:39 AM | #3 |
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| I am so sorry you are dealing with this. I am not an expert at this by any means, but right now I have a borrowed copy of "Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health For Dogs & Cats" -- a lot of people who homecook, use this book. So if you are up to home cooking, he does offer quite a bit of information on this and what to feed. It might be at least good to go to the bookstore and read a bit of what he has to say
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04-26-2008, 05:56 AM | #4 |
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| I/D is very bland. I have been feeding it to my Madison (he's got something going on, might be inflammatory bowel) along with home made rice and turkey. I asked the other day if the I/D was a food that they could be maintained on and the girl at the vet's said yes it was. Max had pancreatitis once; my vet put him on Hill's W/D (for weight control)..I give him the canned and the dry. He's been doing GREAT on it and I'm not even going to try to switch him again....I tried once b/c of all the negative comments about the Hill's and all it did was make him sick, so I'm going to leave well enough alone!
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06-02-2008, 09:00 PM | #5 |
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| YOu need to home cook and use LOW LOW LOW fat foods. Our girls too have pancreatis and we were advised to keep the fat % to 5 grams of fat per day. Before getting into home cooking we fed Wellness Weight mgt- it has 6-10 % fat. meaning no less than 6 and no more than 10. the key is to feed low fat and very bland diet. you cannot just feed home cooked w/o adding calcium and then further along you will need to add more supplements. it would be a great idea to home cook so you know every ingred your dog is eating. You could find a yahoo support group to help you more or read the many links here on home cooking. Fish, white potatoes (canned will work) and green beans. You need to keep an eye on the poos if they are runny or soft. Also I highly recommend getting blood work done and pay close attn to amylase and lipase values. these are the pointers towards pancreatitis. You do not want your dog to go into full blown pancreatitis. That would involve hospitalizing for 2-3 days and they would remain on fluids. Another SUPER website you need to check out is B-Naturals Here are some links for you to read up on... Pancreatitis | B-Naturals.Com Newsletter B-Naturals highly advise you getting some of the bnaturals digestive blend. This will do wonders for digestion and the pancreas. Oh my....Digestive blend is GREAT STUFF! It helped us immensely- very important if you get this. I do not know how much your dog weighs but start off small amount of this and sprinkle on the food. It must be given with food. my girls weigh 6.5 lbs and 13 lbs and i started them both with JUST a pinch of this. we are still at only 1/8 teas 2x's a day. Definitely get a recent lab/blood work done. I don't want to alarm you but pancreatitis serious. It is treatable with diet. If you have to feed kibble go to wellnesspetfood.com and seach for the wellness weight mgt. they recently changed the name to healty management I believe. It is a light purple bag. My girls did great on that food. However we now have kidney issues so phos and calcuim need to be LOW. i had to stop feeding the wellness food. my girls loved it. another important thing- no treats- if you have to you can trick them and feed kibble pieces as treats. also do a search for homemade treats. treats and greasy table food/scraps are very bad for a dog with pancreatitis. read up on the bnaturals. it contains a wealth of info. Hope this makes sense- unfortunately I am rushing to type this. Need to get at least 5 hrs sleep tonight :-) Renee Last edited by sadiesamie; 06-02-2008 at 09:02 PM. |
06-02-2008, 09:14 PM | #6 |
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| one more thing- go to Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble and plug in your food you are currently feeding. pres dog foods and many grocery/walmart dog foods are filled with nothing but BI-PRODUCTS bi-products is anything not made for human consumption. why feed to pets??? prepare to be horrified. Or do a google search on "whats really in pet food" answer: euthanized pets, road kill, infested cows - the list goes on. This all goes to a rendering plant -where they make commercial dog food. :-( here is a link for you to read up on: Bad Dog Food: Last edited by sadiesamie; 06-02-2008 at 09:16 PM. |
06-03-2008, 03:41 AM | #7 |
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| Just a note - I am glad you are concerned about the long term affects of Science Diet!!! Of course, the most important thing is to get your babies stabilized....Ann Martin wrote a book called Food Our Pets Die For and it discusses the pet food industry's unethical practices...Its worth a glance at the bookstore. I also would recommend Dr. Pitcarin's book, I trust him and have used it sucessfully on many occasions. I might consider consulting with a holistic vet, just so that you have a voice on the other end of the line to consult with...at AHVMA - Home you can do a search to find a local holistic vet. Many will give you reduced rates for phone/ email treatment, which is often as effective as hands on treatment.
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06-03-2008, 04:56 AM | #8 |
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| Ellie has had pancreatitis and the vet said nothing to me about Science Diet (probably because she knew I wouldn't use it). I do homecook and don't give too much fat. There are boughten dog foods that would be acceptable for pancreatitis (try the weight management kinds) but the kidney issue will be harder. Aren't you supposed to feed low oxalate foods with oxalate stones?
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06-03-2008, 06:21 AM | #9 |
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| When dealing with calcium oxalate stones, it's important that you stick to feeding low oxalate foods... Here's a link: http://www.ohf.org/docs/Oxalate2004.pdf Solid Gold Wee Bits (Bison) are about 31% protein min. on a dry matter basis and 20% fat min. on a dry matter basis.
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