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kalina82 · 03-06-2008, 04:17 PM

First i was wondering if feeding either of these foods creates the small hard dry poops like the raw? when morgan was on the NV raw her poop was small and hard, and always dried up and disappeared. i would like to have this again, as i hate picking up poop in the yard.

Also, which do you think is better? the instinct only have chicken, rabbit, and duck & turkey. morgan tried the rabbit and hated it. i'm a little hesitant to try the chicken because i hear it causes so many allergies.

the prairie type has more variety in proteins and if it causes the same poop effects i would probably pick the venison to give her since that was her favorite raw.

what do you guys think?

autumn star · 03-06-2008, 04:30 PM

Just wondering why did you stop using the NV Raw?

MyFairLacy · 03-06-2008, 04:33 PM

I've never fed the kibble but I've fed the Instinct canned to my cats before. The canned has a lot of protein variety. I'm all for grain-free diets but I personally won't feed kibble

kalina82 · 03-06-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by autumn star

Just wondering why did you stop using the NV Raw?

morgan was not reaping any of the benefits you hear about. her breath still stank and her tear stains were bad. she loved it tho, and i loved the lack of poop in the yard and that she was thrilled about eating.

i decided to experiment and go back to a really good dry food to see if her breath or tear staining went away. she is on wellness and solid gold wee bits. loves those both too but the poops are killing me.

honestly dry is more convenient then raw, but i will go back to raw if the dry varieties don't help the poops.

autumn star · 03-06-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kalina82

morgan was not reaping any of the benefits you hear about. her breath still stank and her tear stains were bad. she loved it tho, and i loved the lack of poop in the yard and that she was thrilled about eating.

i decided to experiment and go back to a really good dry food to see if her breath or tear staining went away. she is on wellness and solid gold wee bits. loves those both too but the poops are killing me.

honestly dry is more convenient then raw, but i will go back to raw if the dry varieties don't help the poops.

Has the dry helped her breath or tear staining or is it still the same?
We have only been giving the NV raw for almost two weeks now and we can already "smell" a difference in Autumn's breath! It seems to be getting better and better each day!

kalina82 · 03-06-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by autumn star

Has the dry helped her breath or tear staining or is it still the same?
We have only been giving the NV raw for almost two weeks now and we can already "smell" a difference in Autumn's breath! It seems to be getting better and better each day!

the dry hasn't helped so its just her natural stinkiness. ahhahaha

kalina82 · 03-07-2008, 03:06 AM

i know people here feed these. where are you????????

tjdmom · 03-07-2008, 03:34 AM

Good question, I'd be interested in knowing too. Zoe loved the raw for about two weeks and then decided no way. I would love to find something else she likes, I wish she would eat the raw. And the thing with raw is, you can't just leave it out thinking when she's hungry enough she'll eat.

Wylie's Mom · 03-07-2008, 05:28 AM

I'm not sure if either of these create the small poos - if either did, it would be more likely that Instinct would bc it's grain free.

I don't think the bad breath is related the food at all though, in this case. Has the vet given a thorough look at her teeth? Anything funky there?

Are the conjuctiva of her eyes red (the lining if you pull the lid out)? Is the discharge greenish/smelly?

Sometimes things going on in the mouth can irritate eyes too - as in, sometimes when puppies are teething, there eyes drain more; so it just makes me wonder. Another thing I'd suggest is trying PetzLife Gel - I think it's pretty good stuff.

kalina82 · 03-07-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I'm not sure if either of these create the small poos - if either did, it would be more likely that Instinct would bc it's grain free. yeah i'm more inclined to think that the instinct would create the same poop effect as the raw.

I don't think the bad breath is related the food at all though, in this case. Has the vet given a thorough look at her teeth? Anything funky there? Her teeth have been thoroughly looked at. I had a dental done on her in August, they pulled a retained molar which is what i thought was causing the smell. the smell has lessened but its still pretty bad. all her teeth are fine, gums too. its not a problem with her mouth.

Are the conjuctiva of her eyes red (the lining if you pull the lid out)? Is the discharge greenish/smelly? not conjuntivitis either. her eyes are clear and perfect. nothing red, no discharge, no nothing. at the time of her dental i asked the doc to flush her tear ducts and he said they were very small and hard to do.

Sometimes things going on in the mouth can irritate eyes too - as in, sometimes when puppies are teething, there eyes drain more; so it just makes me wonder. Another thing I'd suggest is trying PetzLife Gel - I think it's pretty good stuff.

have petzlife gel and spray. use it regularly.

i've taken her to work with me and had the internal medicine vet take a look at her. can't find anything wrong. this week i have been brushing her teeth with the CET toothpaste and then spraying the petzlife in her mouth and it seems to be a little better.

Ladymom · 03-07-2008, 09:17 PM

Lady has been eating the NV Prairie kibble and canned for almost two years now and has done really well on it. Their Prairie line is high protein, but not raw. Instinct is their raw line.

A raw diet can be very beneficial, but it's not appropriate for every dog. Lady is a diabetic and because of her weakened immune system, her body can't handle the bacteria found in raw. It's always best to check with your vet before starting a raw diet.

The most important thing to remember when feeding raw is to practice good sanitation just as you do when handling your own raw food - careful hand washing before and after handling it, thoroughly washing dishes, etc.

kalina82 · 03-08-2008, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

Lady has been eating the NV Prairie kibble and canned for almost two years now and has done really well on it. Their Prairie line is high protein, but not raw. Instinct is their raw line.

A raw diet can be very beneficial, but it's not appropriate for every dog. Lady is a diabetic and because of her weakened immune system, her body can't handle the bacteria found in raw. It's always best to check with your vet before starting a raw diet.

The most important thing to remember when feeding raw is to practice good sanitation just as you do when handling your own raw food - careful hand washing before and after handling it, thoroughly washing dishes, etc.

Morgan was on a raw diet before and did wonderful on it. i know all about the raw diet.

i was just wondering how Lady's poops are? are they small and hard? do they turn white shortly after and decompose faster so you don't have to pick it up?

tjdmom · 03-08-2008, 09:04 AM

I wish some one had an answer for you as I am wondering the same thing. Zoe has been refusing the raw.

But it has so many advantages! including easy clean up! I think one of us is gonna have to try it.... I wonder if they give free samples.......

Ladymom · 03-08-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kalina82

Morgan was on a raw diet before and did wonderful on it. i know all about the raw diet.

i was just wondering how Lady's poops are? are they small and hard? do they turn white shortly after and decompose faster so you don't have to pick it up?

Nope. I wish they would self destruct.

kalina82 · 03-08-2008, 10:38 AM

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Nope. I wish they would self destruct.

darn it....

how about instinct? anyone feed that?????

03-06-2008, 04:17 PM	#1
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 6,660 Blog Entries: 1	Natures Variety - Prairie or Instinct? First i was wondering if feeding either of these foods creates the small hard dry poops like the raw? when morgan was on the NV raw her poop was small and hard, and always dried up and disappeared. i would like to have this again, as i hate picking up poop in the yard. Also, which do you think is better? the instinct only have chicken, rabbit, and duck & turkey. morgan tried the rabbit and hated it. i'm a little hesitant to try the chicken because i hear it causes so many allergies. the prairie type has more variety in proteins and if it causes the same poop effects i would probably pick the venison to give her since that was her favorite raw. what do you guys think? __________________ Kellie and Morgan Girls Soccer Team Goalie!!!!

03-06-2008, 04:30 PM	#2
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MyFairLacy Donating YT 8000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 9,645	I've never fed the kibble but I've fed the Instinct canned to my cats before. The canned has a lot of protein variety. I'm all for grain-free diets but I personally won't feed kibble __________________ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.

03-07-2008, 03:06 AM	#7
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03-07-2008, 05:28 AM	#9
Wylie's Mom Marcel + Wylie = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,873 Blog Entries: 2	I'm not sure if either of these create the small poos - if either did, it would be more likely that Instinct would bc it's grain free. I don't think the bad breath is related the food at all though, in this case. Has the vet given a thorough look at her teeth? Anything funky there? Are the conjuctiva of her eyes red (the lining if you pull the lid out)? Is the discharge greenish/smelly? Sometimes things going on in the mouth can irritate eyes too - as in, sometimes when puppies are teething, there eyes drain more; so it just makes me wonder. Another thing I'd suggest is trying PetzLife Gel - I think it's pretty good stuff. __________________ ~o~o~o~o~o~o~o~My Food Blog: Velvet Lava~o~o~o~o~o~o~o~ Ann ~Mom to Marcel Verdel Purcell & Wylie "Floop" Fitzsmudge We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. ~ Immanuel Kant

03-07-2008, 03:34 AM	#8
tjdmom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: upstate ny Posts: 2,846	Good question, I'd be interested in knowing too. Zoe loved the raw for about two weeks and then decided no way. I would love to find something else she likes, I wish she would eat the raw. And the thing with raw is, you can't just leave it out thinking when she's hungry enough she'll eat.

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Ladymom Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,621	Lady has been eating the NV Prairie kibble and canned for almost two years now and has done really well on it. Their Prairie line is high protein, but not raw. Instinct is their raw line. A raw diet can be very beneficial, but it's not appropriate for every dog. Lady is a diabetic and because of her weakened immune system, her body can't handle the bacteria found in raw. It's always best to check with your vet before starting a raw diet. The most important thing to remember when feeding raw is to practice good sanitation just as you do when handling your own raw food - careful hand washing before and after handling it, thoroughly washing dishes, etc. __________________ http://www.myladysdogbows.com/ High Quality Handmade Bows for the Pampered Pooch

03-08-2008, 09:04 AM	#13
tjdmom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: upstate ny Posts: 2,846	I wish some one had an answer for you as I am wondering the same thing. Zoe has been refusing the raw. But it has so many advantages! including easy clean up! I think one of us is gonna have to try it.... I wonder if they give free samples.......