vomiting blood; another episode

[ally173]

i cant believe that this is happening to her again; last september she had the same thing.
to begin she hasn't been eating much the past few days; didn't think much of it. this morning around 3am she woke me up throwing up blood. she threw up like 6 times; and since this has happened before i decided to take her to the er hospital right away; she threw up few times on the way there
i had to leave her there for blood tests and iv fluid; the vet called me around noon and told me that he recommend that she stays overnight since she's dehydrated; and to continue the iv fluids and medications. he doesnt know exactly what it is but it looks like HEMORRHAGIC GASTRITIS
not sure why this is happening to her.
she was eating halo food and then few weeks ago i started introducing the orijen kibbles; not sure if that had anything to do with it.
anyhow i have to wait until tomorrow to see how she's doing and will probably pick her up.
i am sure i have to feed her a bland diet now; chicken and rice; which i know she's going to have trouble eating it. she's very picky and that's why she's in this situation.
anyhow, does anyone have similar experience and can offer any advice. i am just scared that when i bring her home tomorrow she will refuse to eat and then end up throwing up again.
thanks for reading this.

[Cinq1964]

Nolee had this also a few months ago. The ER vet said some dogs never get, others can get it more than once. Ugh!! I know when we picked Nolee up from the ER hospital, they gave us a can of food to feed him until he could start with his normal food. They should do the same for you! Hope she gets better soon!

[luvfla]

My little guy, Clarence, is old & he has trouble with blood in his stool SO I cooked for him....first I cooked chicken thighs (skinless) used the broth to cook his brown rice. Next I shredded the chicken & added french cut green beans. I would have added chopped carrots if I had some.
He loves it & it settles his bowels. (Sorry for the graphics)

[ally173]

thanks for your advice; quick question did you cook the beans and carrots?
i am hoping this will be the last episode she will have; because it's really expensive to keep her few days in the er vet hospital; i hope they are taking care of my baby!

[Ladymom]

Lady has had HGE three times. Did your vet do bloodwork? There shouldn't be a doubt about whether or not she has HGE. A Packed Volume (red blood count) of over 60 is how they diagnose HGE.

The exact cause of HGE isn't known. In Lady's case, it was definitely dietary. I switched her to homecooked and added probiotics after her last episode a year ago and she never had another problem.

[Patti]

Cali had that a few months ago and got it again but I caught it just before she got real sick the second time. She is on a strict diet due to allergies and liver issues so she never has any thing different to eat, so I don't know why she gets it. She has always had a sensitive tummy, but the HGE was scary. SHe made a full recovery both times. Hope your baby is better soon.

[luvfla]

I use canned green beans but I would have cooked the carrots with the rice. I do not add any seasonings during the cooking process...the canned green beans have salt in them...if I was a GREAT mommy...I would have rinsed them first.

[ally173]

what type of probiotic do you use; the only thing with the chicken and rice she won't be getting much nutrition; and her vitamins are chewable and i am scared to give it to her due to her stomach problem

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by ally173

what type of probiotic do you use; the only thing with the chicken and rice she won't be getting much nutrition; and her vitamins are chewable and i am scared to give it to her due to her stomach problem

I use Animal Essentials Plant Enzymes and Probiotics.

If you plan to keep her on a homecooked diet, you will have to use one prepared by a nutritionist that contains all the supplements you have to add to make it balanced. Short term she will be fine on just chicken and rice until she recovers.

That's actually how I ended up switching Lady to homecooked. I was never able to get her back on commercial food after her last HGE episode. Every time I would try to take her off chicken and rice, she would get a loose stool.

[ally173]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

I use Animal Essentials Plant Enzymes and Probiotics.

If you plan to keep her on a homecooked diet, you will have to use one prepared by a nutritionist that contains all the supplements you have to add to make it balanced. Short term she will be fine on just chicken and rice until she recovers.

That's actually how I ended up switching Lady to homecooked. I was never able to get her back on commercial food after her last HGE episode. Every time I would try to take her off chicken and rice, she would get a loose stool.

do you have your dog on homecooked for a while now; what supplements do you add; i dont know if i can afford to have nutriotionist prepare the food; i think i can cook for her but i need to figure out how to giver her the supplement. thanks

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by ally173

do you have your dog on homecooked for a while now; what supplements do you add; i dont know if i can afford to have nutriotionist prepare the food; i think i can cook for her but i need to figure out how to giver her the supplement. thanks

Lady has been on homecooked for a year now.

You don't have to have a nutritionist prepare the food. You need a recipe prepared by a nutritionist that contains all the supplements necessary for that particular recipe. Then you make all her meals following the recipe.

Lady has liver damage from years of seizure medications and is diabetic, so her recipe is for her specific health issues. I have to add bone meal, salt substitute plus she gets Animal Essentials multivitamins everyday.

Many YTer's have had Susan Davis prepare a recipe for their Yorkie. Her consult is $80, but well worth it IMO.

Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care

Others use Balance It, but that gets expensive over time.

Welcome to the Balance IT® Web Site

There is a basic recipe with supplements here:

Dog and Cat Food Recipes

[ally173]

thank you so much for the info

[ally173]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Lady has been on homecooked for a year now.

You don't have to have a nutritionist prepare the food. You need a recipe prepared by a nutritionist that contains all the supplements necessary for that particular recipe. Then you make all her meals following the recipe.

Lady has liver damage from years of seizure medications and is diabetic, so her recipe is for her specific health issues. I have to add bone meal, salt substitute plus she gets Animal Essentials multivitamins everyday.

Many YTer's have had Susan Davis prepare a recipe for their Yorkie. Her consult is $80, but well worth it IMO.

Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care

Others use Balance It, but that gets expensive over time.

Welcome to the Balance IT® Web Site

There is a basic recipe with supplements here:

Dog and Cat Food Recipes

thanks for the info; would you or anyone on YT know of a multivitamin supplement that has a probiotic in it already; i would like to use one supplement product if i can. any other suggestion for great vitamins and probiotics will be appreciated.

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by ally173

thanks for the info; would you or anyone on YT know of a multivitamin supplement that has a probiotic in it already; i would like to use one supplement product if i can. any other suggestion for great vitamins and probiotics will be appreciated.

If you homecook you will have to add several supplements. There is no one supplement that will meet all her nutritional needs. For instance, the recipe in the link I posted calls for:

SUPPLEMENTS:

* puréed veggie mix (up to 1 cup)
* 1 Tbsp olive oil, or 1/2 Tbsp olive and 1/2 Tbsp flaxseed oil
* 400 mg calcium (elemental, as calcium citrate or carbonate)
* or 1200 mg (approximately 1-1/2 tsp) bone meal powder (human grade)
* 1/4 tsp salt substitute (potassium chloride) — give 3 or 4 times a week
* 1 multiple vitamin-mineral supplement (human quality)
* 1 probiotic/digestive enzyme supplement

Dogs have a much higher calcium requirement than we do and the correct calcium to phosphorus ratio is critical. Please read this:

Calcium & Phosphorous in Dogs* - Chinaroad Lowchens of Australia -

Homecooking is much more expensive, but well worth the results for a dog with health issues.

[ally173]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

If you homecook you will have to add several supplements. There is no one supplement that will meet all her nutritional needs. For instance, the recipe in the link I posted calls for:

SUPPLEMENTS:

* puréed veggie mix (up to 1 cup)
* 1 Tbsp olive oil, or 1/2 Tbsp olive and 1/2 Tbsp flaxseed oil
* 400 mg calcium (elemental, as calcium citrate or carbonate)
* or 1200 mg (approximately 1-1/2 tsp) bone meal powder (human grade)
* 1/4 tsp salt substitute (potassium chloride) — give 3 or 4 times a week
* 1 multiple vitamin-mineral supplement (human quality)
* 1 probiotic/digestive enzyme supplement

Dogs have a much higher calcium requirement than we do and the correct calcium to phosphorus ratio is critical. Please read this:

Calcium & Phosphorous in Dogs* - Chinaroad Lowchens of Australia -

Homecooking is much more expensive, but well worth the results for a dog with health issues.

i don't mind the cost of the homecook food; however it is time consuming and complicated; especially when adding all these supplements; and i am afraid i won't have time or patience to do this; but i have no choice right now. thanks again