Domestic Abuse Case - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Samuelsmommie · 10-10-2012, 07:52 AM

I've thought long and hard about posting this thread.

Please join me in praying for a member of my church.

She has recently become a victim of domestic violence. About three weeks ago, we received a call that a member of our church was in ICU and wasn't expected to make it through the day. It was Saturday morning and she had asked her live in boyfriend to move out the day before. Well on Saturday morning they woke up she asked him again to leave and he just snapped. He cut her throat from nearly ear to ear, then began stabbing her. Her two children who were at home tried to stop him, they are ages 3 and 14 both girls. When they couldn't get him off of her one ran next door and got a neighbor who was finally able to get him off of her. They rushed her by car to the hospital where they were told that she had been stabbed a total of 18 times and had her throat cut.

We of course rushed over to be with family and friends and were all praying.

We then get a call that her nephew who works at the jail had been sent home for jumping on and beating the man up when he was brought into the jail because he came in smiling at the young man as if he didn't just nearly kill his aunt.

She has survived and came to church this past Sunday after getting out of the hospital. Thank God she made it. But she still has at least two more surgeries she will need to repair damage done to her hand and arm.

Even though her physical wounds are healing I fear that it will be a very long time for her emotional wounds and scars to heal, not just hers, but her two young daughters as well who witnessed and tried to stop it.

When she hugged me Sunday she couldn't stop crying and it broke my heart. He had never hit her before this day, but sadly he had beaten another woman badly before and left her for dead. He served only a year and a half for that.
She just never thought it would happen to her.

Please keep her and her children in your prayers. This incident has really impacted our community and church but that's nothing compared to what they must be feeling having gone through this.
I did encourage her that as soon as she has healed up more, that we will get her and the children in counciling.
Thanks for reading I know it's long, but I really wanted to share this and ask my new YT family to help us pray for and encourage them.

rubymoon2072 · 10-10-2012, 09:31 AM

I grew up with domestic violence and it is a wound that takes many years to heal from as a child witnessing such horrific acts upon someone you love deeply. I will keep the girls and your friend in my prayers and thoughts. I am very thankful she made it through and I hope this man pays a bigger price and it doesnt happen again. That is the sadess part...he should never have the power or chance to do it again.

TxVicki · 10-10-2012, 09:45 AM

Oh my goodness this is just terrible. I will certainly say prayers for this family.

Samuelsmommie · 10-10-2012, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubymoon2072

I grew up with domestic violence and it is a wound that takes many years to heal from as a child witnessing such horrific acts upon someone you love deeply. I will keep the girls and your friend in my prayers and thoughts. I am very thankful she made it through and I hope this man pays a bigger price and it doesnt happen again. That is the sadess part...he should never have the power or chance to do it again.

I don't understand how he was able to be back on the streets and I just pray that this time he's locked away because next time he will likely kill the next victim. Thank you for keeping them in your prayers. My heart just breaks for them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TxVicki

Oh my goodness this is just terrible. I will certainly say prayers for this family.

Yes it's very awful. Yes please do. Thank you.

Patti · 10-10-2012, 12:40 PM

Hot terrible for all of them. I will keep them all in my prayers. Thankfully it sounds like she has a great support system to help her and the children heal.

yorkietalkjilly · 10-10-2012, 01:35 PM

What a horrible tragedy! The poor thing and her children are likely forever changed and sadly, if they don't put him away for a long, long, long time, this beast may try to silence her for good just because he can't have her. I've seen those horror stories on TV where the husband or bofriend wants to return to finish the job - even years and years later. I hope and pray that counselling can help her learn to deal with what happened and how to learn to recognize the type of male who would do this just in case she ever develops enough trust to have another relationship. Those poor little kids - what they have seen and experienced is heartbreaking and so sad. I hope she will stay in church with her children and come to know a home and some healing and peace there among good people of faith. You all might be her only hold on sanity for the next months and years. I hope that after his trial, the judge will put him away for the maximum time limit and he's an old man before he ever walks out of prison, particularly since he's re-offended as they say. Maybe by that time, she will have a new life and have moved on. Couldn't hurt if she's marry a professional MMA fighter and buy two or three ill-tempered, Schutzhund-trained big dogs from the Czech Republic! I think if I were she, I would gravitate toward the real help and hope you and your fellow church members are offering her. I will certainly pray for this poor woman and her children and for her sweet nephew!

msyorktown · 10-10-2012, 03:11 PM

Oh Tracy...yet another victim. As you know I'm a suvivor of Domestic Violence...I suffered through for 16yrs. My ex served 6mths. Sadly these offenders dont serve enough time for the violence their victims suffer. The physical scars heal...the emotional scars...well that is a different story.
Myself and my children went to counseling after the 'last' beating that landed him in jail...sadly the scars remain. Especially my daughter who has developed a 'dont trust no man' attitude. Myself I have healed somewhat and have learned to trust and love again....it took me 10yrs and another failed marriage...I had a large support system, that saw me through..I am forever grateful that they were there when I so needed them.

I am glad your friend like myself survived, and thrilled that she too has a support system. She needs you all right now and in the months to come.
I no nothing of the justice system in the States...hopefully he will serve more than a year...sorry I hope he rots in jail!! There is a saying that has become my creed...'What don't kill you will make you stronger'. Praise God that she survived!! Thank you Tracy for being there for her, you and the church are her rock.
I'm in tears reading your post, I am praying hard for your friend and her children...The Lord will guide them.
Too many memories....I'm so sorry Tracy...so very sorry!
Those poor babies having to witness that...dear God...sorry I can't type anymore....so sorry...

yorkietalkjilly · 10-10-2012, 03:44 PM

Surely this creep will get more than a year or so for aggravated attempted murder(throat cutting speaks of his deadly intent to kill - he can't say he just meant to hurt her as in hitting over the head with a bottle or pistol-whipping a person) and as someone who has assaulted before, won't they give him at least a moderate to lengthy sentence - not just a vacation?

Samuelsmommie · 10-10-2012, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Surely this creep will get more than a year or so for aggravated attempted murder(throat cutting speaks of his deadly intent to kill - he can't say he just meant to hurt her as in hitting over the head with a bottle or pistol-whipping a person) and as someone who has assaulted before, won't they give him at least a moderate to lengthy sentence - not just a vacation?

We are all anxious to find that out! He stabbed her all over from her face down to her chest,arms and stomach etc. We are praying that the judge will see this as an escalation of violence since the first time he just beat the young lady so bad with his fists that they thought she wouldn't make it. This time he used a knife and children viewed this one. He left her in pretty bad shape and she nearly died just from the blood loss alone on the way to the hospital. I truly think he meant to kill her and pray the judge sees it the same way.

BabyGirl Rosie · 10-10-2012, 04:28 PM

Oh my gosh. That's horrible.

. I will lift her and her children up in prayer.

yorkietalkjilly · 10-10-2012, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuelsmommie

We are all anxious to find that out! He stabbed her all over from her face down to her chest,arms and stomach etc. We are praying that the judge will see this as an escalation of violence since the first time he just beat the young lady so bad with his fists that they thought she wouldn't make it. This time he used a knife and children viewed this one. He left her in pretty bad shape and she nearly died just from the blood loss alone on the way to the hospital. I truly think he meant to kill her and pray the judge sees it the same way.

I'm pretty sure his decison to cut her throat sealed his deal as so much about charging an attacker goes to their intent. Now if they could get him on first-degree attempted murder, that carries a minimum of 15 to life I think. Then add on his past bad acts of attempted murder and this guy might be toast for the most of the rest of his sorry life.

Samuelsmommie · 10-10-2012, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msyorktown

Oh Tracy...yet another victim. As you know I'm a suvivor of Domestic Violence...I suffered through for 16yrs. My ex served 6mths. Sadly these offenders dont serve enough time for the violence their victims suffer. The physical scars heal...the emotional scars...well that is a different story.
Myself and my children went to counseling after the 'last' beating that landed him in jail...sadly the scars remain. Especially my daughter who has developed a 'dont trust no man' attitude. Myself I have healed somewhat and have learned to trust and love again....it took me 10yrs and another failed marriage...I had a large support system, that saw me through..I am forever grateful that they were there when I so needed them.

I am glad your friend like myself survived, and thrilled that she too has a support system. She needs you all right now and in the months to come.
I no nothing of the justice system in the States...hopefully he will serve more
than a year...sorry I hope he rots in jail!! There is a saying that has become my creed...'What don't kill you will make you stronger'. Praise God that she
survived!! Thank you Tracy for being there for her, you and the church are her
rock.
I'm in tears reading your post, I am praying hard for your friend and her
children...The Lord will guide them.
Too many memories....I'm so sorry Tracy...so very sorry!
Those poor babies having to witness that...dear God...sorry I can't type
anymore....so sorry...

Jacqui, my heart breaks for you as well. I am so sorry you had to endure all that you did. But you are a survivor, just like she is. I really Pray that God will continue to give us the wisdom and guidance to help her and the children out! The youngest is having nightmares and that's not surprising. The 14 year old and my daughter are friends and it was so hard to watch my daughter cry and worry about her friend and then in turn have to explain to her or try to explain to her how someone could do something so terrible.
This situation has been such a difficult one for me to make sense of.

It's so important that these people who do things like this are made to pay with stiffer punishments. Abuse is never okay and we have to teach our daughters this lesson it breaks my heart to ever think of something like this happening to my daughter or anyone else's for that matter.

I'm just trying to be here for them. But it's hard not to cry right along with mom and the girls. Like you I can't imagine my babies watching someone stabbing me and screaming because they can't make him stop....

Samuelsmommie · 10-10-2012, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

I'm pretty sure his decison to cut her throat sealed his deal as so much about charging an attacker goes to their intent. Now if they could get him on first-degree attempted murder, that carries a minimum of 15 to life I think. Then add on his past bad acts of attempted murder and this guy might be toast for the most of the rest of his sorry life.

I think that's what they will likely go for. I pray he's not able to get out again ever or at least until he is a very old man! The police officers at the hospital didn't think she would make it and one was heard saying that he tried to kill her. You don't stab someone 18 times and just mean to hurt them!

Samuelsmommie · 10-10-2012, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie

Oh my gosh. That's horrible.

. I will lift her and her children up in prayer.

Sorry missed this. Yes it is. Thank you we can use all the prayers we can get for them.

concretegurl · 10-10-2012, 04:53 PM

Been there.

Couseling helps.

She and her daughters will no doubt have to rebuild their confidence and sense of security.

Especially if there are some strong men avalible to help through some resocialization that really helps realizing the reassociation between strong men and securitt around them verses controling mentally unstable individuals who use their strength to disimpower others is a long road in recovery.

Its wonderful women almost always heal women through things like this but sometimes it takes a good man to heal the wounds of a bad one, especially for these young so impressionable girls.

I hope after the fact, seems this is attempted murder and should be taken seriously, if the girls are his a family court will protect them from him and not stand behind his parental rights...it's the worst part of situations like this, and why most mothers stay in bad relationships at their own risk.

10-10-2012, 07:52 AM	#1
Samuelsmommie Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 871	Domestic Abuse Case I've thought long and hard about posting this thread. Please join me in praying for a member of my church. She has recently become a victim of domestic violence. About three weeks ago, we received a call that a member of our church was in ICU and wasn't expected to make it through the day. It was Saturday morning and she had asked her live in boyfriend to move out the day before. Well on Saturday morning they woke up she asked him again to leave and he just snapped. He cut her throat from nearly ear to ear, then began stabbing her. Her two children who were at home tried to stop him, they are ages 3 and 14 both girls. When they couldn't get him off of her one ran next door and got a neighbor who was finally able to get him off of her. They rushed her by car to the hospital where they were told that she had been stabbed a total of 18 times and had her throat cut. We of course rushed over to be with family and friends and were all praying. We then get a call that her nephew who works at the jail had been sent home for jumping on and beating the man up when he was brought into the jail because he came in smiling at the young man as if he didn't just nearly kill his aunt. She has survived and came to church this past Sunday after getting out of the hospital. Thank God she made it. But she still has at least two more surgeries she will need to repair damage done to her hand and arm. Even though her physical wounds are healing I fear that it will be a very long time for her emotional wounds and scars to heal, not just hers, but her two young daughters as well who witnessed and tried to stop it. When she hugged me Sunday she couldn't stop crying and it broke my heart. He had never hit her before this day, but sadly he had beaten another woman badly before and left her for dead. He served only a year and a half for that. She just never thought it would happen to her. Please keep her and her children in your prayers. This incident has really impacted our community and church but that's nothing compared to what they must be feeling having gone through this. I did encourage her that as soon as she has healed up more, that we will get her and the children in counciling. Thanks for reading I know it's long, but I really wanted to share this and ask my new YT family to help us pray for and encourage them. __________________ Tracy~~ Kalisi Hope ~~

10-10-2012, 09:31 AM	#2
rubymoon2072 Cedric♥Lola♥Keylo Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gilford, NH, USA Posts: 9,209	I grew up with domestic violence and it is a wound that takes many years to heal from as a child witnessing such horrific acts upon someone you love deeply. I will keep the girls and your friend in my prayers and thoughts. I am very thankful she made it through and I hope this man pays a bigger price and it doesnt happen again. That is the sadess part...he should never have the power or chance to do it again. __________________ Cedric N Lola N Keylo RIP Punkee Princess

10-10-2012, 09:45 AM	#3
TxVicki Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: At Home Posts: 8,386	Oh my goodness this is just terrible. I will certainly say prayers for this family. __________________ [SIZE="3"VICKI & ALLIE[/SIZE]

10-10-2012, 12:40 PM	#5
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	Hot terrible for all of them. I will keep them all in my prayers. Thankfully it sounds like she has a great support system to help her and the children heal. __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

10-10-2012, 01:35 PM	#6
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	What a horrible tragedy! The poor thing and her children are likely forever changed and sadly, if they don't put him away for a long, long, long time, this beast may try to silence her for good just because he can't have her. I've seen those horror stories on TV where the husband or bofriend wants to return to finish the job - even years and years later. I hope and pray that counselling can help her learn to deal with what happened and how to learn to recognize the type of male who would do this just in case she ever develops enough trust to have another relationship. Those poor little kids - what they have seen and experienced is heartbreaking and so sad. I hope she will stay in church with her children and come to know a home and some healing and peace there among good people of faith. You all might be her only hold on sanity for the next months and years. I hope that after his trial, the judge will put him away for the maximum time limit and he's an old man before he ever walks out of prison, particularly since he's re-offended as they say. Maybe by that time, she will have a new life and have moved on. Couldn't hurt if she's marry a professional MMA fighter and buy two or three ill-tempered, Schutzhund-trained big dogs from the Czech Republic! I think if I were she, I would gravitate toward the real help and hope you and your fellow church members are offering her. I will certainly pray for this poor woman and her children and for her sweet nephew! __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

10-10-2012, 03:11 PM	#7
msyorktown ♥Love My 3 Furrbutts♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Whitby, Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,912 Blog Entries: 2	Oh Tracy...yet another victim. As you know I'm a suvivor of Domestic Violence...I suffered through for 16yrs. My ex served 6mths. Sadly these offenders dont serve enough time for the violence their victims suffer. The physical scars heal...the emotional scars...well that is a different story. Myself and my children went to counseling after the 'last' beating that landed him in jail...sadly the scars remain. Especially my daughter who has developed a 'dont trust no man' attitude. Myself I have healed somewhat and have learned to trust and love again....it took me 10yrs and another failed marriage...I had a large support system, that saw me through..I am forever grateful that they were there when I so needed them. I am glad your friend like myself survived, and thrilled that she too has a support system. She needs you all right now and in the months to come. I no nothing of the justice system in the States...hopefully he will serve more than a year...sorry I hope he rots in jail!! There is a saying that has become my creed...'What don't kill you will make you stronger'. Praise God that she survived!! Thank you Tracy for being there for her, you and the church are her rock. I'm in tears reading your post, I am praying hard for your friend and her children...The Lord will guide them. Too many memories....I'm so sorry Tracy...so very sorry! Those poor babies having to witness that...dear God...sorry I can't type anymore....so sorry... __________________ Jacqui, mom to Raelle , Orion , Jersey and Gizmo https://www.facebook.com/PreciousPawzGroomingSpa http://jlevy.scentsy.ca

10-10-2012, 03:44 PM	#8
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	Surely this creep will get more than a year or so for aggravated attempted murder(throat cutting speaks of his deadly intent to kill - he can't say he just meant to hurt her as in hitting over the head with a bottle or pistol-whipping a person) and as someone who has assaulted before, won't they give him at least a moderate to lengthy sentence - not just a vacation? __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

10-10-2012, 04:28 PM	#10
BabyGirl Rosie I ♥ my girls! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: With My Yorkies Posts: 18,980	Oh my gosh. That's horrible. . I will lift her and her children up in prayer. __________________ Momma to three sweet Yorkie girls Rosie Marie, Mikki Leigh , and Lily Mae Grace!

10-10-2012, 04:53 PM	#15
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Been there. Couseling helps. She and her daughters will no doubt have to rebuild their confidence and sense of security. Especially if there are some strong men avalible to help through some resocialization that really helps realizing the reassociation between strong men and securitt around them verses controling mentally unstable individuals who use their strength to disimpower others is a long road in recovery. Its wonderful women almost always heal women through things like this but sometimes it takes a good man to heal the wounds of a bad one, especially for these young so impressionable girls. I hope after the fact, seems this is attempted murder and should be taken seriously, if the girls are his a family court will protect them from him and not stand behind his parental rights...it's the worst part of situations like this, and why most mothers stay in bad relationships at their own risk. __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!