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Lacy's Mom · 08-14-2006, 12:59 PM

I read the early administration post of how we should all be courteous and agree, but feel a little conflict in this situation and would like to know how you feel.

Someone posts a Yorkie for sale, it has way too much white on it or other defect that makes me think it isn't a purebred; or the puppy is 2 pounds at 8 weeks and they say it won't get over 4 pounds; or they are charging $2,000 for a dog registered with a registry that anyone, purebred or not, can register with; or the dog is inbred and the breeder is claiming there's no problem with that; or the dog has CDA; etc.

How do you find a line of compromise - you want to warn the people who don't know as much about Yorkies, but you don't want to be rude either. Some of the yorkies for sale posters only post to sell and don't add anything to this forum.

carleirulesme · 08-14-2006, 01:29 PM

Do you have proof the person is a liar, or fake, or a puppymill.. any of those?
You're entitled to your opinion, but if you know NOTHING of the person YOURSELF, then you have no reason to post anything slanderous, are you a breeder, do you know everything about yorkie genetics and coats, if you had an inbred and a purebred next to eachother not knowing their background, do you think you could point it out just by looking at it... we're allllll entitled to opinions.. BUT to bash someone purely on perspective... or gossip... and NOT on PURE FACT.. then why say anything at all??? You can PM as Kimberly suggested and ask this person... but why do something to possibly hurt someone for no reason and yourself???
JMO...

EDITED TO ADD:this is not an attempt to slay you, or anyone else with this question... i'm just saying, maybe the line of compromise, would be to say nothing at all.. if someone has a question, they're sure to ask it....one way or another... = )
I don't get involved in the "fueds" that happen, but I'm just giving my perspective on the situation..

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Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

I read the early administration post of how we should all be courteous and agree, but feel a little conflict in this situation and would like to know how you feel.

Someone posts a Yorkie for sale, it has way too much white on it or other defect that makes me think it isn't a purebred; or the puppy is 2 pounds at 8 weeks and they say it won't get over 4 pounds; or they are charging $2,000 for a dog registered with a registry that anyone, purebred or not, can register with; or the dog is inbred and the breeder is claiming there's no problem with that; or the dog has CDA; etc.

How do you find a line of compromise - you want to warn the people who don't know as much about Yorkies, but you don't want to be rude either. Some of the yorkies for sale posters only post to sell and don't add anything to this forum.

RLC12345678 · 08-14-2006, 01:33 PM

I agree. I would PM the person who is posting the yorkie for sale and ask these questions.

Lacy's Mom · 08-14-2006, 01:39 PM

The way I knew it was inbred because the "breeder" said it was and said there wasn't any problems with doing that. PMing the advertiser does nothing to "warn" potential buyers and share your opinions. What are we going to do when a Nigerian scammer posts, we have no proof, but many of us we'll be able to recognize it - should be PM them and not share our opinion with others?

After all if we post an opinion, it's just our opinion, and the potential buyers can take it or leave it or do their own research.

I am glad you edited your post, your post is a perfect example of what should be prevented - a personal attack - BTW I also ignore these posts, but sometimes I feel bad for unknowledgeable buyers.

Shadow · 08-14-2006, 01:43 PM

My new girl has alot of white on her chest. Does the mean she is mixed?

RLC12345678 · 08-14-2006, 01:45 PM

Maybe do a little research on the poster BEFORE you post a reply. The person selling the pups may be a very respectable breeder/poster who has had litters before. In that case, if there is something suspect, like whether it is purebred or not, then that would be something that needs to go in a PM to clear things up for yourself personally. Whereas, if someone from Africa comes on and it is their very first post and it is clearly a scam, then yeah, maybe we should put it in the public forum. I think we should just be more congnizant of the person who starts the thread and their feelings.

carleirulesme · 08-14-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

The way I knew it was inbred because the "breeder" said it was and said there wasn't any problems with doing that. PMing the advertiser does nothing to "warn" potential buyers and share your opinions. What are we going to do when a Nigerian scammer posts, we have no proof, but many of us we'll be able to recognize it - should be PM them and not share our opinion with others?

After all if we post an opinion, it's just our opinion, and the potential buyers can take it or leave it or do their own research.

I am glad you edited your post, that is what should be prevented a personal attack - BTW I also ignore these posts, but sometimes I feel bad for unknowledgeable buyers.

hmm, well, I know nothing of the inbred statement and i'll keep it that way... but perhaps if you think someone is "shaddy" you can PM the admin with your concerns???
and, I woudn't personally attack you or anyone because I don't know anyone on here besides Denise and Denise LOL
I also feel bad for buyers who get scammed, it's very unfortunate and saddening, but I wouldn't throw out accusations unless I had personal experience and had proof... = )

RLC12345678 · 08-14-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

My new girl has alot of white on her chest. Does the mean she is mixed?

Both of mine had ALOT of white on their chest, too. Hobbs' white turned tan. Hootie still has a lot of white, but it is turning tan, too. I wish it would stay white. I think it's cute

Lacy's Mom · 08-14-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

My new girl has alot of white on her chest. Does the mean she is mixed?

No, of course not, some even desire a white blaze on the chest because it indicates that the dog will have a full coat, doesn't guarantee a quality coat, but it is suppose to indicate a coat of quantity.

carleirulesme · 08-14-2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

My new girl has alot of white on her chest. Does the mean she is mixed?

My boys have white on their chests... and their gorgeous!! I love it!

edited to add:
cash's coat is soooo thin, compared to Parker's as you can see....but I think both his parents have pretty thin coats too

RLC12345678 · 08-14-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by carleirulesme

My boys have white on their chests... and their gorgeous!! I love it!

edited to add:
cash's coat is soooo thin, compared to Parker's as you can see....but I think both his parents have pretty thin coats too

Your guys are GORGEOUS! They look like they are the best of friends! I hope you are enjoying Parker and that he is being a good boy!

carleirulesme · 08-14-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RLC12345678

Your guys are GORGEOUS! They look like they are the best of friends! I hope you are enjoying Parker and that he is being a good boy!

thanks! We sure are, and he is!!

SnowWa · 08-14-2006, 02:13 PM

I think that anytime you wonder about something, are confused about something, or think something may be wrong --- you can respond and ask the poster for more information. You certainly aren't be slanderous or even unkind if you are asking questions...

As far as being "inbred," you should feel free to ask about something like that -- just state that you want to know more about it - because you have always understood that it was not the best thing to do......

Also - just bringing some questions forward -helps all of us question some things and learn more about other things.

I sure wouldn't shy away from any posts I question or don't understand -- and - let's be honest - sometimes if a person is given the chance to explain a little more or answer a few questions, then we may even agree with them......

If you don't agree or wonder about some posts - just be tactful and ask for more information............... nothing wrong with this...

Carol Jean

Lacy's Mom · 08-14-2006, 02:30 PM

I think I just came up with a solution to my own problem. PM'ing the Seller doesn't do any good, but if I feel the need, I can always PM potential buyers that have shown an interest and that way they can do some research and the Seller will not even know or be offended.

makemepretty · 08-14-2006, 02:44 PM

I honestly wouldn't say anything. The person will just take it wrong. Most of us who have wanted yorkies, have wanted them for quite awhile...while looking at pictures of puppies all over the place. You can tell when looking at a picture of a yorkie puppy if it's what you think of as 'standard' or even 'in the normal range'. Some people like a different color yorkie. Except for brewiers and parti yorkies, most don't have that much white on them(I saw a picture of a puppy with white on it's face...it is quite a bit of white and I had never seen white on a face as a puppy before this, looked more beagle to me than yorkie). That doesn't mean someone else won't want it though.

However, you just have to assume that the person looking for a puppy has done a little research. Even if they haven't, it doesn't mean they won't love the puppy anyway. My opinions of what a yorkie should look like don't match everyone elses. I thought I prefered the blue/gold color until I got my little silver/tan baby so go figure

It's nice that you were thinking of a way to try to protect someone out there. Hopefully the person who ends up with a puppy like you're describing doesn't end up being too disappointed. I think when you pay that much for a pet you should get exactly what you're looking for, it doesn't always happen that way though.

08-14-2006, 12:59 PM	#1
Lacy's Mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 3,065	? about how to handle this type of post I read the early administration post of how we should all be courteous and agree, but feel a little conflict in this situation and would like to know how you feel. Someone posts a Yorkie for sale, it has way too much white on it or other defect that makes me think it isn't a purebred; or the puppy is 2 pounds at 8 weeks and they say it won't get over 4 pounds; or they are charging $2,000 for a dog registered with a registry that anyone, purebred or not, can register with; or the dog is inbred and the breeder is claiming there's no problem with that; or the dog has CDA; etc. How do you find a line of compromise - you want to warn the people who don't know as much about Yorkies, but you don't want to be rude either. Some of the yorkies for sale posters only post to sell and don't add anything to this forum.

08-14-2006, 01:39 PM	#4
Lacy's Mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 3,065	The way I knew it was inbred because the "breeder" said it was and said there wasn't any problems with doing that. PMing the advertiser does nothing to "warn" potential buyers and share your opinions. What are we going to do when a Nigerian scammer posts, we have no proof, but many of us we'll be able to recognize it - should be PM them and not share our opinion with others? After all if we post an opinion, it's just our opinion, and the potential buyers can take it or leave it or do their own research. I am glad you edited your post, your post is a perfect example of what should be prevented - a personal attack - BTW I also ignore these posts, but sometimes I feel bad for unknowledgeable buyers. Last edited by Lacy's Mom; 08-14-2006 at 01:42 PM.

08-14-2006, 02:13 PM	#13
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,992	I think that anytime you wonder about something, are confused about something, or think something may be wrong --- you can respond and ask the poster for more information. You certainly aren't be slanderous or even unkind if you are asking questions... As far as being "inbred," you should feel free to ask about something like that -- just state that you want to know more about it - because you have always understood that it was not the best thing to do...... Also - just bringing some questions forward -helps all of us question some things and learn more about other things. I sure wouldn't shy away from any posts I question or don't understand -- and - let's be honest - sometimes if a person is given the chance to explain a little more or answer a few questions, then we may even agree with them...... If you don't agree or wonder about some posts - just be tactful and ask for more information............... nothing wrong with this... Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.

08-14-2006, 01:33 PM	#3
RLC12345678 I heart Hootie & Hobbs Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 7,149	I agree. I would PM the person who is posting the yorkie for sale and ask these questions.

08-14-2006, 01:43 PM	#5
Shadow No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Posts: 5,368	My new girl has alot of white on her chest. Does the mean she is mixed?

08-14-2006, 01:45 PM	#6
RLC12345678 I heart Hootie & Hobbs Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 7,149	Maybe do a little research on the poster BEFORE you post a reply. The person selling the pups may be a very respectable breeder/poster who has had litters before. In that case, if there is something suspect, like whether it is purebred or not, then that would be something that needs to go in a PM to clear things up for yourself personally. Whereas, if someone from Africa comes on and it is their very first post and it is clearly a scam, then yeah, maybe we should put it in the public forum. I think we should just be more congnizant of the person who starts the thread and their feelings.

08-14-2006, 02:30 PM	#14
Lacy's Mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 3,065	I think I just came up with a solution to my own problem. PM'ing the Seller doesn't do any good, but if I feel the need, I can always PM potential buyers that have shown an interest and that way they can do some research and the Seller will not even know or be offended.

08-14-2006, 02:44 PM	#15
makemepretty YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Middleville Posts: 933	I honestly wouldn't say anything. The person will just take it wrong. Most of us who have wanted yorkies, have wanted them for quite awhile...while looking at pictures of puppies all over the place. You can tell when looking at a picture of a yorkie puppy if it's what you think of as 'standard' or even 'in the normal range'. Some people like a different color yorkie. Except for brewiers and parti yorkies, most don't have that much white on them(I saw a picture of a puppy with white on it's face...it is quite a bit of white and I had never seen white on a face as a puppy before this, looked more beagle to me than yorkie). That doesn't mean someone else won't want it though. However, you just have to assume that the person looking for a puppy has done a little research. Even if they haven't, it doesn't mean they won't love the puppy anyway. My opinions of what a yorkie should look like don't match everyone elses. I thought I prefered the blue/gold color until I got my little silver/tan baby so go figure It's nice that you were thinking of a way to try to protect someone out there. Hopefully the person who ends up with a puppy like you're describing doesn't end up being too disappointed. I think when you pay that much for a pet you should get exactly what you're looking for, it doesn't always happen that way though.