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Tulip · 07-14-2007, 05:13 PM

I have not had my yorkie for very long, however, after reading this article
I am very worried that more has not been done for all breeds.

I wanted to know how many of you agree with this particular information? In addition, do you know of anyone who might have experience the same fate with their yorkie?

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/vacc...e_effects.html

Tulip

marcerella02 · 07-14-2007, 05:24 PM

welll Layla never has had a kennel cough vaccine, although she has had kennel cough. And as far as vaccines go, her vet feels she needs them every year, and i don't think this is true, needless to say we are looking for a new vet.

Mitzis Mom · 07-14-2007, 05:56 PM

Mitzi is not getting any vaccinations anymore, not even rabies. She doesn't have contact with other dogs, is healthy and had a bad reaction the last time she got her booster shots. When I think back, we had dogs all my life and rabies was the only shot they got and they got it once. My cousin is a Vet and he told me that they rely on the vaccinations for a basic income. He also told me that it's not really necessary to vaccinate against everything they could come across. So... no more vacs for Mitzi (10 y.o.)... period!

LuvMySissy · 07-14-2007, 06:05 PM

Find a vet that will work with you and give the smaller pups a smaller vaccine dose. It is very important in the tiny ones to also only give one vaccine at a time. It will take longer, but there will be less chance of reaction to a single vaccine.

With the bordatella vaccine - it is either given intranasal (which is a live vaccine) or as an injection. When my Sissy got hers intranasal as a puppy, she promtly contracted kennel cough. However, when she got her booster as an injection we did not have any problems.

Keep doing your research. The more you know, the more likely your vet will work with you.

Tulip · 07-14-2007, 06:13 PM

Hello marcerella02:

Thanks for your knowledge, and sharing your experiences.

Hello Mitzis Mom:

Wow, thank you for sharing that bit of information, my puppy will be 1 year old in December and I do not think that I will allow him to have any type of vaccinations; not after reading that article, that had so many people had to loose their pets in such a manner.

Tulip

kalina82 · 07-14-2007, 06:45 PM

the chances of having a fatal reaction to a vaccine is very small. The vaccines that are given are for all sizes of dogs. A small percentage have reactions that include lethargy, vomiting, and/or diarrhea. These can be small OR big dogs.

I'm a tech and i've assisted with giving vaccines to hundred and hundreds of dogs and cats, and i've also given many myself. I've only seen a very small percentage of reactions to the vaccines and they were usually lethargy and vomiting.

Personally, I would always give my animals vaccines on schedule up until three years old. This way they get the vaccines required to build their immunity. After that I have a titer run. If the titer comes back ok, then i stop giving all vaccines EXCEPT rabies. Rabies is given every three years and is required by law in most states. Another option is to give the distemper every three years along with the rabies. It is not neccessary to give the distemper vaccines every year after the first two years of life (assuming they got all their puppy boosters and their 1 year vaccine)

i don't look much at reports by a few people saying vaccines killed their pets. It can happen to anyone. Even people sometimes have reactions to vaccines. Its just something that happens. However when you were a child i'm sure your parents still got you vaccinated for everything you needed.

Wylie's Mom · 07-15-2007, 05:20 AM

Curious, how much is a titer?

Tulip · 07-15-2007, 07:26 AM

Hello kalina82:

I greatly appreciate your professional input and support; I would have to be honest with you, I know nothing about vet vaccination methods or problems.

However, I have always believed in learning from other people's experience, I never knew how fast the bonding was between a dog and the family members, I always thought people were really silly about the concerns for their pets.

Once I received my yorkie, not a month went by before I too was hooked, with the emotional bonding good and bad. Yet when I read the threads that all those individuals wrote, I would not consider it to be a small percentage.

Especially, when those individual have place the emotional position of loving and caring for their pets. What really bothered me were the dogs who showed no problems with seizures, and all of a sudden their pets were having a seizures 1-2 times a day after being vaccinated.

Again, I take nothing way from your professional perspective, but at some point common sense must over ride factual evidence.

A good example, of this would be children who with Autism, who are born very healthy and before the age of five they start to change for the worse. I find absolutely bloody heart breaking. The medical industry will never provide the general public with the truth be it pets or babies.

Tulip

livingdustmops · 07-15-2007, 08:34 AM

Here is a website with AAHA vaccination guidelines.

http://www.aahanet.org/About_aaha/Ab..._Canine06.html

Please tulip before you make any decision you need to really research and fully understand vaccinations. I am a person who does believe we are over vaccinating our dogs but some vaccinations are critical for the over all health of the dogs. I have seen too many dogs die because people would not spend the $$$ to vaccinate their animals. There is a lot of great information out on the web and in order for you to make an informed choice you need to read both sides of the story.

Please understand if you chose to not vaccinate your dog then your dog should not be out in public, go to parks or walk on the sidewalks where other dogs are so your little one does not come in contact with these diseases. Also if you live in an area with mosquito's then you run a high chance of heartworms which will also kill your dog.

I agree with Kalina 82 and follow the same protocol she is doing. I also agree that many vets use vaccinations as income producing so I made sure I made my own choices based on my research.

Wylie's Mom - In Tucson the titer tests were around $300 but I am sure if you check with your vet you will get another answer. The vets are all over the map on costs for dogs in Arizona.

Tulip · 07-15-2007, 09:59 AM

Hello livingdustmops:

I greatly appreciate your advice and support; I spoke to a Homeopathic Doctor, who advised me to get my yorkie vaccinated up to three years old.

The next rabies vaccination is due in April 2008, so I have sometime to think about it. I live in the subs and there are quite a few dogs in the area, but my pup never really mixes with other pets; the puppy is not isolated entirely. I just make sure the puppy does not get too close.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I am not sure why they have to have a booster shot and rabies shot at the same time, I find unnecessary.

Your advice, has allowed me to rethink my decision, and for that I am truly appreciative of your support.

Tulip

livingdustmops · 07-15-2007, 06:41 PM

Tulip - I struggled like you are and looked at both sides of the issues. I have learned over the years that not all vets even like animals nor do they concern themselves with the affects of vaccinations. I finally found a vet who talks with me and not over me in regards to my concerns. She helped me in my decisions on what is best for my dogs and also keep them healthy. I also control when shots are given to my pets and I space out all shots even if it costs me an additional vet visit office charge.

You do have time to look all of this over and I am sure you will make an informed choice.

07-14-2007, 05:13 PM	#1
Tulip BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: North America Posts: 55	Vaccination - what are your thoughts or opinions? I have not had my yorkie for very long, however, after reading this article I am very worried that more has not been done for all breeds. I wanted to know how many of you agree with this particular information? In addition, do you know of anyone who might have experience the same fate with their yorkie? http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/vacc...e_effects.html Tulip

07-14-2007, 05:24 PM	#2
marcerella02 Loved by Layla Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 11,257	welll Layla never has had a kennel cough vaccine, although she has had kennel cough. And as far as vaccines go, her vet feels she needs them every year, and i don't think this is true, needless to say we are looking for a new vet. __________________ http://misscanam.blogspot.com/ Layla 's Simon

07-14-2007, 06:05 PM	#4
LuvMySissy Luv my Angel, too! Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Posts: 9,333	Find a vet that will work with you and give the smaller pups a smaller vaccine dose. It is very important in the tiny ones to also only give one vaccine at a time. It will take longer, but there will be less chance of reaction to a single vaccine. With the bordatella vaccine - it is either given intranasal (which is a live vaccine) or as an injection. When my Sissy got hers intranasal as a puppy, she promtly contracted kennel cough. However, when she got her booster as an injection we did not have any problems. Keep doing your research. The more you know, the more likely your vet will work with you. __________________ Sissy & Angel

07-14-2007, 06:45 PM	#6
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: with my yorkie baby Posts: 10,141 Blog Entries: 1	the chances of having a fatal reaction to a vaccine is very small. The vaccines that are given are for all sizes of dogs. A small percentage have reactions that include lethargy, vomiting, and/or diarrhea. These can be small OR big dogs. I'm a tech and i've assisted with giving vaccines to hundred and hundreds of dogs and cats, and i've also given many myself. I've only seen a very small percentage of reactions to the vaccines and they were usually lethargy and vomiting. Personally, I would always give my animals vaccines on schedule up until three years old. This way they get the vaccines required to build their immunity. After that I have a titer run. If the titer comes back ok, then i stop giving all vaccines EXCEPT rabies. Rabies is given every three years and is required by law in most states. Another option is to give the distemper every three years along with the rabies. It is not neccessary to give the distemper vaccines every year after the first two years of life (assuming they got all their puppy boosters and their 1 year vaccine) i don't look much at reports by a few people saying vaccines killed their pets. It can happen to anyone. Even people sometimes have reactions to vaccines. Its just something that happens. However when you were a child i'm sure your parents still got you vaccinated for everything you needed. __________________ Kellie and Morgan

07-15-2007, 05:20 AM	#7
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07-14-2007, 05:56 PM	#3
Mitzis Mom No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,837	Mitzi is not getting any vaccinations anymore, not even rabies. She doesn't have contact with other dogs, is healthy and had a bad reaction the last time she got her booster shots. When I think back, we had dogs all my life and rabies was the only shot they got and they got it once. My cousin is a Vet and he told me that they rely on the vaccinations for a basic income. He also told me that it's not really necessary to vaccinate against everything they could come across. So... no more vacs for Mitzi (10 y.o.)... period!

07-14-2007, 06:13 PM	#5
Tulip BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: North America Posts: 55	Hello marcerella02: Thanks for your knowledge, and sharing your experiences. Hello Mitzis Mom: Wow, thank you for sharing that bit of information, my puppy will be 1 year old in December and I do not think that I will allow him to have any type of vaccinations; not after reading that article, that had so many people had to loose their pets in such a manner. Tulip

07-15-2007, 07:26 AM	#8
Tulip BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: North America Posts: 55	Hello kalina82: I greatly appreciate your professional input and support; I would have to be honest with you, I know nothing about vet vaccination methods or problems. However, I have always believed in learning from other people's experience, I never knew how fast the bonding was between a dog and the family members, I always thought people were really silly about the concerns for their pets. Once I received my yorkie, not a month went by before I too was hooked, with the emotional bonding good and bad. Yet when I read the threads that all those individuals wrote, I would not consider it to be a small percentage. Especially, when those individual have place the emotional position of loving and caring for their pets. What really bothered me were the dogs who showed no problems with seizures, and all of a sudden their pets were having a seizures 1-2 times a day after being vaccinated. Again, I take nothing way from your professional perspective, but at some point common sense must over ride factual evidence. A good example, of this would be children who with Autism, who are born very healthy and before the age of five they start to change for the worse. I find absolutely bloody heart breaking. The medical industry will never provide the general public with the truth be it pets or babies. Tulip

07-15-2007, 08:34 AM	#9
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	Here is a website with AAHA vaccination guidelines. http://www.aahanet.org/About_aaha/Ab..._Canine06.html Please tulip before you make any decision you need to really research and fully understand vaccinations. I am a person who does believe we are over vaccinating our dogs but some vaccinations are critical for the over all health of the dogs. I have seen too many dogs die because people would not spend the $$$ to vaccinate their animals. There is a lot of great information out on the web and in order for you to make an informed choice you need to read both sides of the story. Please understand if you chose to not vaccinate your dog then your dog should not be out in public, go to parks or walk on the sidewalks where other dogs are so your little one does not come in contact with these diseases. Also if you live in an area with mosquito's then you run a high chance of heartworms which will also kill your dog. I agree with Kalina 82 and follow the same protocol she is doing. I also agree that many vets use vaccinations as income producing so I made sure I made my own choices based on my research. Wylie's Mom - In Tucson the titer tests were around $300 but I am sure if you check with your vet you will get another answer. The vets are all over the map on costs for dogs in Arizona. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

07-15-2007, 09:59 AM	#10
Tulip BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: North America Posts: 55	Hello livingdustmops: I greatly appreciate your advice and support; I spoke to a Homeopathic Doctor, who advised me to get my yorkie vaccinated up to three years old. The next rabies vaccination is due in April 2008, so I have sometime to think about it. I live in the subs and there are quite a few dogs in the area, but my pup never really mixes with other pets; the puppy is not isolated entirely. I just make sure the puppy does not get too close. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am not sure why they have to have a booster shot and rabies shot at the same time, I find unnecessary. Your advice, has allowed me to rethink my decision, and for that I am truly appreciative of your support. Tulip

07-15-2007, 06:41 PM	#11
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	Tulip - I struggled like you are and looked at both sides of the issues. I have learned over the years that not all vets even like animals nor do they concern themselves with the affects of vaccinations. I finally found a vet who talks with me and not over me in regards to my concerns. She helped me in my decisions on what is best for my dogs and also keep them healthy. I also control when shots are given to my pets and I space out all shots even if it costs me an additional vet visit office charge. You do have time to look all of this over and I am sure you will make an informed choice. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!