Legg-Calve-Perthes - YorkieTalk.com Forums

sunyluvsma · 03-29-2007, 06:09 PM

Has anyone ever had to deal with this?

Thanks.

CO_yorkie_momma · 03-30-2007, 08:03 AM

I just found out that the male I bought from another breeder has Legg Perthes and bad luxating patellas. I will have to do surgery on him and neuter him also. I am bummed because I bought him for the purpose of breeding him.

Sweetums · 03-30-2007, 10:08 AM

How come these breeders aren't testing for at least the luxating patellas before selling off their puppies? They should be providing health certificates with their dogs especially if they are going to be bred.

CO_yorkie_momma · 03-30-2007, 10:16 AM

I agree, and even though I am a breeder and should have known better, I didnt sign a contract with them. I assumed since I was buying a high quality dog loaded with high quality champions from famous lines and I bought him from a show breeder, that the dog would be sound and I didnt even take him to the vet to have him checked out when I got him. Stupid me. Live and learn I guess. This is a costly mistake I wont make again for sure. I havent had him very long but now I get to put another 1000.00 into him so he isnt in pain and can still live a decent life.

Sugar's Mom · 03-30-2007, 02:11 PM

i have read a lot of stuff on different sites that says luxating patella is not always a gentic defect. it can also be caused by people letting the puppy jump off high places, rough play and etc.. this is why most breeders do not guarantee this in their contract.

Yorkiedaze · 03-30-2007, 02:14 PM

A puppy CAN be checked by a Vet. and not have any knee problems, but show up months later. Nothing is for certain.

YorkieRose · 03-30-2007, 02:45 PM

Barb..I certainly hope the breeder is paying for the surgery!

xxmxaxrxyxx · 03-30-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

I agree, and even though I am a breeder and should have known better, I didnt sign a contract with them. I assumed since I was buying a high quality dog loaded with high quality champions from famous lines and I bought him from a show breeder, that the dog would be sound and I didnt even take him to the vet to have him checked out when I got him. Stupid me. Live and learn I guess. This is a costly mistake I wont make again for sure. I havent had him very long but now I get to put another 1000.00 into him so he isnt in pain and can still live a decent life.

sorry to hear about your baby!

sunyluvsma · 03-30-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

I just found out that the male I bought from another breeder has Legg Perthes and bad luxating patellas. I will have to do surgery on him and neuter him also. I am bummed because I bought him for the purpose of breeding him.

Mine is a rescue which came from a so called reputable breeded. He was in 5 homes by the time he was 9 months. I'm so glad he is in my life. I am just beside myself about this.

He does have a grade 2-3 luxating patella which is what we thought the problem was but his back is startng to hunch. Patella's do not do this. The hip does.

This just breaks my heart for him.

Gracie'sMom · 03-31-2007, 04:53 AM

Abbie has perthes and underwent surgery in January to correct the problem. I can say to you that if you have a reputable surgeon the dog can be just fine after it. Abbie runs, jumps, and plays just like any other dog. The recovery time is several months though. Good Luck!

luvdorkyyorkies · 03-31-2007, 05:18 AM

Im going thru it right now.
I have a tiny boy at 2 1/2 lbs who isnt very old, just a year. I had him checked by the vet, but only a hands on eval, not an xray. He checked his knees said they were tight, watched his gait etc at about 8 months and he checked fine thru that exam. Never favored any limbs with running.
Well about 6 weeks ago, I had him running with my stud. THey had never fought before and seemed to be Buddies. But on that day, my stud ddecide to attack my little guy. I should have not had them together.
ANyway before I could get my stud off him, he had rolled him all over and bit at his back legs.
Lil man was favoring his back leg and I took him in, xray showed nothing, and the vet thought it might be a strain or spring.
Well since that time he favors his leg, the muscle has began to deterioate, smaller then the other leg. I have him on joint supplements trying to see if that will help, he is using it more but still favors it alot, but he will probably have to have surgery.
He has legg perthes. SUch A shame, because I think I could have prevented it. Ill never know if he actually had it and it hadnt developed yet, or if it was purely injury related. His little legs are like twigs, so they cant withstand much stress.

sunyluvsma · 03-31-2007, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies

Im going thru it right now.
I have a tiny boy at 2 1/2 lbs who isnt very old, just a year. I had him checked by the vet, but only a hands on eval, not an xray. He checked his knees said they were tight, watched his gait etc at about 8 months and he checked fine thru that exam. Never favored any limbs with running.
Well about 6 weeks ago, I had him running with my stud. THey had never fought before and seemed to be Buddies. But on that day, my stud ddecide to attack my little guy. I should have not had them together.
ANyway before I could get my stud off him, he had rolled him all over and bit at his back legs.
Lil man was favoring his back leg and I took him in, xray showed nothing, and the vet thought it might be a strain or spring.
Well since that time he favors his leg, the muscle has began to deterioate, smaller then the other leg. I have him on joint supplements trying to see if that will help, he is using it more but still favors it alot, but he will probably have to have surgery.
He has legg perthes. SUch A shame, because I think I could have prevented it. Ill never know if he actually had it and it hadnt developed yet, or if it was purely injury related. His little legs are like twigs, so they cant withstand much stress.

I wasn't aware that this was preventable. My readings have told me that this is genetic and common in Yorkies and West Highland's. Do you have any reading information that may say differently? I would love to have it if you don't mind.
Also, what supplements are you trying? My surgeon has also suggested this along with slinging the leg and crate rest for a month. But also said in Joey's case it might not really matter.

Thanks for any additional information you may provide.

luvdorkyyorkies · 03-31-2007, 05:59 AM

Its really not completely understood. Its not always preventable, and most times it probably is genetic especially if it occurs at an early age and you know there has been no serious injury, but injury can cause it.

http://www.vetsurgerycentral.com/legg_calve.htm

RIght now I have my lil guy on pet savers, but Im not real sure I like the effects, but then again, Im looking for perfection because I dont want him to go thru the surgery but that is probably what will happen

CO_yorkie_momma · 03-31-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Barb..I certainly hope the breeder is paying for the surgery!

That would be nice but I emailed her about 2 weeks ago to tell her about the Legg Perthes and havent heard a word back from her so I doubt that is going to happen.

CO_yorkie_momma · 03-31-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sunyluvsma

Mine is a rescue which came from a so called reputable breeded. He was in 5 homes by the time he was 9 months. I'm so glad he is in my life. I am just beside myself about this.

He does have a grade 2-3 luxating patella which is what we thought the problem was but his back is startng to hunch. Patella's do not do this. The hip does.

This just breaks my heart for him.

Why was he in so many homes before he was 9 months old?

03-29-2007, 06:09 PM	#1
sunyluvsma Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey Posts: 292	Legg-Calve-Perthes Has anyone ever had to deal with this? Thanks. __________________ Carole~ Mom to Boomer,Ally and Joey. Foster Mom to Oscar

03-30-2007, 02:11 PM	#5
Sugar's Mom Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 7,288	i have read a lot of stuff on different sites that says luxating patella is not always a gentic defect. it can also be caused by people letting the puppy jump off high places, rough play and etc.. this is why most breeders do not guarantee this in their contract. __________________ www.deeslilyorkshireterriers.com

03-30-2007, 02:45 PM	#7
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	pup Barb..I certainly hope the breeder is paying for the surgery! __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim

03-31-2007, 04:53 AM	#10
Gracie'sMom Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 198	Abbie has perthes and underwent surgery in January to correct the problem. I can say to you that if you have a reputable surgeon the dog can be just fine after it. Abbie runs, jumps, and plays just like any other dog. The recovery time is several months though. Good Luck! __________________ Madison Gracie Lou Abbie Sue

03-31-2007, 05:18 AM	#11
luvdorkyyorkies Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,491	Im going thru it right now. I have a tiny boy at 2 1/2 lbs who isnt very old, just a year. I had him checked by the vet, but only a hands on eval, not an xray. He checked his knees said they were tight, watched his gait etc at about 8 months and he checked fine thru that exam. Never favored any limbs with running. Well about 6 weeks ago, I had him running with my stud. THey had never fought before and seemed to be Buddies. But on that day, my stud ddecide to attack my little guy. I should have not had them together. ANyway before I could get my stud off him, he had rolled him all over and bit at his back legs. Lil man was favoring his back leg and I took him in, xray showed nothing, and the vet thought it might be a strain or spring. Well since that time he favors his leg, the muscle has began to deterioate, smaller then the other leg. I have him on joint supplements trying to see if that will help, he is using it more but still favors it alot, but he will probably have to have surgery. He has legg perthes. SUch A shame, because I think I could have prevented it. Ill never know if he actually had it and it hadnt developed yet, or if it was purely injury related. His little legs are like twigs, so they cant withstand much stress. __________________ Kelly "Home of the Dorky Yorkies!"

03-30-2007, 08:03 AM	#2
CO_yorkie_momma My Angels Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorful Colorado Posts: 2,259	I just found out that the male I bought from another breeder has Legg Perthes and bad luxating patellas. I will have to do surgery on him and neuter him also. I am bummed because I bought him for the purpose of breeding him.

03-30-2007, 10:08 AM	#3
Sweetums Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kirkland WA Posts: 421	How come these breeders aren't testing for at least the luxating patellas before selling off their puppies? They should be providing health certificates with their dogs especially if they are going to be bred.

03-30-2007, 10:16 AM	#4
CO_yorkie_momma My Angels Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorful Colorado Posts: 2,259	I agree, and even though I am a breeder and should have known better, I didnt sign a contract with them. I assumed since I was buying a high quality dog loaded with high quality champions from famous lines and I bought him from a show breeder, that the dog would be sound and I didnt even take him to the vet to have him checked out when I got him. Stupid me. Live and learn I guess. This is a costly mistake I wont make again for sure. I havent had him very long but now I get to put another 1000.00 into him so he isnt in pain and can still live a decent life.

03-30-2007, 02:14 PM	#6
Yorkiedaze My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca. Posts: 6,436	A puppy CAN be checked by a Vet. and not have any knee problems, but show up months later. Nothing is for certain.

03-31-2007, 05:59 AM	#13
luvdorkyyorkies Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,491	Its really not completely understood. Its not always preventable, and most times it probably is genetic especially if it occurs at an early age and you know there has been no serious injury, but injury can cause it. http://www.vetsurgerycentral.com/legg_calve.htm RIght now I have my lil guy on pet savers, but Im not real sure I like the effects, but then again, Im looking for perfection because I dont want him to go thru the surgery but that is probably what will happen __________________ Kelly "Home of the Dorky Yorkies!" Last edited by luvdorkyyorkies; 03-31-2007 at 06:01 AM.