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Lacy's Mom · 10-14-2006, 11:17 AM

I am so happy for you and Pippa. I really thought something was seriously wrong. You must be so relieved.

Shadow · 10-14-2006, 11:26 AM

WOOOO HOOO!!!! Great news!

ebby253 · 10-14-2006, 12:00 PM

Whew!! Thank you for the update. Our little ones can sure put a scare into us at times!

I am sorry that I wrote 'Pippin' instead of 'Pippa' in my first response.

My Shankly did something very similar right after he came home with us, about a month later. He (for no apparent reason at all) started shaking uncontrollably and got all wobbly. He hung his head like he was despondent, as well. We rushed him to the hospital and by the time the Doctor looked at him, he was playing and bouncing around.

Connie · 10-14-2006, 02:05 PM

Yeahhhh...this is the best news I've heard in a long time! I'm so glad...now you can get some much needed sleep!

Dragonfly · 10-14-2006, 07:48 PM

I'm so glad she is o.k

TigsAAI · 10-14-2006, 09:52 PM

Hi,
I am 98% sure I may know what is wrong with your baby...
Altantoaxial Instability!
It is classic what you posted! And they can return to walking..
But the problem will return! Very important to get check out..
The reason they stop walking is compression on spinal cord..
They can be born with a defect that alow the C1 and C2 to shift..

If baby has AAI.. they will be down again... as this will shift again..
I do not want to scare you.. but this shift can cause respiratory failure.
and sudden death if spinal cord is severed..

Mine fell many more times, and this never happened but I have read that it can.. so wanted to caution you... This is a correctable condition!

Please fell free to contact me... This condition is often not diagnosed...
I was seen by many vets before finding the Dx... I can name 3 others
that had the same thing.. going to many vets..
Nell.. email address: juannell@msn.com... Please contact me any time...

Mybabe4me · 10-15-2006, 09:43 AM

Hi Pippa's mom,
I just want to say yes I agree with Nell. I am one of the mom's she is talking about that has a baby with AAI. And he was playing one day in May and all of a sudden he fell to his side and started to seeze(sp?) and then he went limp and his tongue hung out of his mouth. I was rushing him to the vet and he got up and started to run around the truck. He was back to normal except he was walking a little sideways. I took him to the vet and they told me it was a pinched nerve. Sent me home with meds (muscle relaxers). He was fine until July 29, when he jumped off my lap and broke his neck. This happened because of the AAI. He was born with this condition. It goes unsight unseen by many vets. Babybear's neck was broken and the vet told me that he had Liver Shunts.(misdiagnosis) I got a second opinion and found that his neck was broke and he had AAI. He had this the first time he went for the fall in May.
I don't want to scare you either. But please have him checked for this, because if it is AAI you can have it fixed. My babybear is living proof of that. His neck was broken so bad it was decappitated. He was lucky to be alive. He isn't walking yet but that was 11 weeks ago yesterday that this happend. So please I beg you have him checked ASAP. I don't want to see another mom go through what I went through with my little guy.

Val and Babybear

SweetCuteness · 10-15-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mybabe4me

Hi Pippa's mom,
I just want to say yes I agree with Nell. I am one of the mom's she is talking about that has a baby with AAI. And he was playing one day in May and all of a sudden he fell to his side and started to seeze(sp?) and then he went limp and his tongue hung out of his mouth. I was rushing him to the vet and he got up and started to run around the truck. He was back to normal except he was walking a little sideways. I took him to the vet and they told me it was a pinched nerve. Sent me home with meds (muscle relaxers). He was fine until July 29, when he jumped off my lap and broke his neck. This happened because of the AAI. He was born with this condition. It goes unsight unseen by many vets. Babybear's neck was broken and the vet told me that he had Liver Shunts.(misdiagnosis) I got a second opinion and found that his neck was broke and he had AAI. He had this the first time he went for the fall in May.
I don't want to scare you either. But please have him checked for this, because if it is AAI you can have it fixed. My babybear is living proof of that. His neck was broken so bad it was decappitated. He was lucky to be alive. He isn't walking yet but that was 11 weeks ago yesterday that this happend. So please I beg you have him checked ASAP. I don't want to see another mom go through what I went through with my little guy.

Val and Babybear

I think you may have meant to type something else where you typed decappitated? It would be impossible for any pup to be alive if they were decappitated... they would have to head.

I'm glad to hear that Pippa is doing better. I was worried!

Mybabe4me · 10-15-2006, 10:16 AM

Doctor said internal decapitation(sp?) sorry. I had his head held a certian way the whole time I went through this ordeal with him. When he moved it in a differant direction he stopped breathing.

Chrissy0277 · 10-15-2006, 10:40 AM

Please look further into this, they are right, if Pippa has this surgery can fix this and help her live a normal life.
You dont want to mess with AAI

tmatherly · 10-15-2006, 03:20 PM

OMG! I am definetely going to look further into this everyone. I am very thankful for everyone who posted about AAI..how scary! I am looking up as much information as I can and will contact my Vet. My goodness...I wonder where you have to go to get surgery for this????

Mybabe4me · 10-15-2006, 04:01 PM

I had Babybear's surgery done at a Emergancy Hospital. You would want a neurologist to do this type of surgery. I am so glad you are going to look into it. I would hate to see someone go through what I have with my little guy. And it can be detected by a x-ray. Please keep us posted on how Pippa is doing.
Val

ebby253 · 10-15-2006, 04:17 PM

Ok now you all have me worried, as well. Shankly wobbled one day and seemed to not be able to walk properly. It lasted about and hour or so and since then, he has done this recently. When I took Shanks in for his check up, the vet did this test where she tucked his front paw under to see if he would straighten it out, and he didn't right away. He finally did, but she (vet) was a bit disturbed at how his response was delayed.

However, she tried it again and he suddenly didn't seem to want to leave it tucked under...everytime after that. I don't want to be one of them pet owners that run to the doc for every little illness, they make a good living on those of us who do. But I do want my Shanks checked for this.

Is it an xray only?

I didn't mean to hijack your thread, Tmatherly, but I am very concerned about this.

Mybabe4me · 10-15-2006, 04:35 PM

Hi Ebby,
We don't mean to scare anyone just would like to inform before anything bad happens. I have a site here that you will get some good info from. It was sent to me when I first came to the boards for some help. I hope this better helps you and Pippa's mom. And anyone out there that is worrying. I will bump my first post so you can see Babybear's story.

http://www.petplace.com/dogs/atlanto...ion/page1.aspx

Any questions I would gladly answer if I can. PM me if you wish.
Val

PS: Thread name New member Big problem.

tmatherly · 10-15-2006, 05:07 PM

Ebby-it's ok!!!

I am going to talk to my vet and ask for an xray. X-rays are relatively inexpensive compared to MRI or CT's. I am worried, too. But I've decided to try and stay calm until I see an Xray result. There's not a lot of information on the web-I'm disapointed in that. But I did manage to see some normal vs. AAI xrays on a little yorkie named Mini that was in a rescue organization.

10-14-2006, 12:00 PM	#18
ebby253 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 30	Whew!! Thank you for the update. Our little ones can sure put a scare into us at times! I am sorry that I wrote 'Pippin' instead of 'Pippa' in my first response. My Shankly did something very similar right after he came home with us, about a month later. He (for no apparent reason at all) started shaking uncontrollably and got all wobbly. He hung his head like he was despondent, as well. We rushed him to the hospital and by the time the Doctor looked at him, he was playing and bouncing around. __________________ http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55144 My baby boy...Shankly

10-14-2006, 02:05 PM	#19
Connie Loved by Maddie & Libby Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 7,077	Yeahhhh...this is the best news I've heard in a long time! I'm so glad...now you can get some much needed sleep! __________________ Custom doggie dresses and vests Memory is a country where I can go to see your face - but where do I go when I miss your embrace?

10-14-2006, 07:48 PM	#20
Dragonfly My Sun Shine's bright Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Georiga Posts: 2,353	I'm so glad she is o.k __________________ My beautiful Sunshine Me & my Gang

10-14-2006, 09:52 PM	#21
TigsAAI Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 19	Your baby Hi, I am 98% sure I may know what is wrong with your baby... Altantoaxial Instability! It is classic what you posted! And they can return to walking.. But the problem will return! Very important to get check out.. The reason they stop walking is compression on spinal cord.. They can be born with a defect that alow the C1 and C2 to shift.. If baby has AAI.. they will be down again... as this will shift again.. I do not want to scare you.. but this shift can cause respiratory failure. and sudden death if spinal cord is severed.. Mine fell many more times, and this never happened but I have read that it can.. so wanted to caution you... This is a correctable condition! Please fell free to contact me... This condition is often not diagnosed... I was seen by many vets before finding the Dx... I can name 3 others that had the same thing.. going to many vets.. Nell.. email address: juannell@msn.com... Please contact me any time...

10-15-2006, 10:40 AM	#25
Chrissy0277 Its all about the yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,442	Please look further into this, they are right, if Pippa has this surgery can fix this and help her live a normal life. You dont want to mess with AAI __________________ CHRISSY Cash Nikki Precious Lizzy Mimi , Isabelle Lena Taboo

10-14-2006, 11:17 AM	#16
Lacy's Mom YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 2,931	I am so happy for you and Pippa. I really thought something was seriously wrong. You must be so relieved.

10-14-2006, 11:26 AM	#17
Shadow No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Posts: 5,368	WOOOO HOOO!!!! Great news!

10-15-2006, 09:43 AM	#22
Mybabe4me YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 608	Hi Pippa's mom, I just want to say yes I agree with Nell. I am one of the mom's she is talking about that has a baby with AAI. And he was playing one day in May and all of a sudden he fell to his side and started to seeze(sp?) and then he went limp and his tongue hung out of his mouth. I was rushing him to the vet and he got up and started to run around the truck. He was back to normal except he was walking a little sideways. I took him to the vet and they told me it was a pinched nerve. Sent me home with meds (muscle relaxers). He was fine until July 29, when he jumped off my lap and broke his neck. This happened because of the AAI. He was born with this condition. It goes unsight unseen by many vets. Babybear's neck was broken and the vet told me that he had Liver Shunts.(misdiagnosis) I got a second opinion and found that his neck was broke and he had AAI. He had this the first time he went for the fall in May. I don't want to scare you either. But please have him checked for this, because if it is AAI you can have it fixed. My babybear is living proof of that. His neck was broken so bad it was decappitated. He was lucky to be alive. He isn't walking yet but that was 11 weeks ago yesterday that this happend. So please I beg you have him checked ASAP. I don't want to see another mom go through what I went through with my little guy. Val and Babybear

10-15-2006, 10:16 AM	#24
Mybabe4me YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 608	Doctor said internal decapitation(sp?) sorry. I had his head held a certian way the whole time I went through this ordeal with him. When he moved it in a differant direction he stopped breathing.

10-15-2006, 03:20 PM	#26
tmatherly Razorback Yorkie Lover Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 1,948	OMG! I am definetely going to look further into this everyone. I am very thankful for everyone who posted about AAI..how scary! I am looking up as much information as I can and will contact my Vet. My goodness...I wonder where you have to go to get surgery for this???? __________________ Tiffany Pippa, Scout, and Ranger's Mom http://www.dogster.com/?198523 http://www.dogster.com/?198525

10-15-2006, 04:01 PM	#27
Mybabe4me YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 608	I had Babybear's surgery done at a Emergancy Hospital. You would want a neurologist to do this type of surgery. I am so glad you are going to look into it. I would hate to see someone go through what I have with my little guy. And it can be detected by a x-ray. Please keep us posted on how Pippa is doing. Val

10-15-2006, 04:17 PM	#28
ebby253 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 30	Ok now you all have me worried, as well. Shankly wobbled one day and seemed to not be able to walk properly. It lasted about and hour or so and since then, he has done this recently. When I took Shanks in for his check up, the vet did this test where she tucked his front paw under to see if he would straighten it out, and he didn't right away. He finally did, but she (vet) was a bit disturbed at how his response was delayed. However, she tried it again and he suddenly didn't seem to want to leave it tucked under...everytime after that. I don't want to be one of them pet owners that run to the doc for every little illness, they make a good living on those of us who do. But I do want my Shanks checked for this. Is it an xray only? I didn't mean to hijack your thread, Tmatherly, but I am very concerned about this. __________________ http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55144 My baby boy...Shankly

10-15-2006, 04:35 PM	#29
Mybabe4me YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 608	Here is the site I was sent to learn more about AAI Hi Ebby, We don't mean to scare anyone just would like to inform before anything bad happens. I have a site here that you will get some good info from. It was sent to me when I first came to the boards for some help. I hope this better helps you and Pippa's mom. And anyone out there that is worrying. I will bump my first post so you can see Babybear's story. http://www.petplace.com/dogs/atlanto...ion/page1.aspx Any questions I would gladly answer if I can. PM me if you wish. Val PS: Thread name New member Big problem. Last edited by Mybabe4me; 10-15-2006 at 04:38 PM.

10-15-2006, 05:07 PM	#30
tmatherly Razorback Yorkie Lover Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 1,948	Ebby-it's ok!!! I am going to talk to my vet and ask for an xray. X-rays are relatively inexpensive compared to MRI or CT's. I am worried, too. But I've decided to try and stay calm until I see an Xray result. There's not a lot of information on the web-I'm disapointed in that. But I did manage to see some normal vs. AAI xrays on a little yorkie named Mini that was in a rescue organization. __________________ Tiffany Pippa, Scout, and Ranger's Mom http://www.dogster.com/?198523 http://www.dogster.com/?198525