Yorkie in shock

[BAER]

My yorkie got hit by a car to day. Took him to vet right away. she said he was ok and in shock. gave him a cordazone shot and give me other instructions like watch him close with his breathing, keep him warm. and baby him. also tomorrow give him deramaxx for pain well I searched about the med but couldn't find any thing helpful about it. does any one know any think about this med? I did see it can knock him out

Should I give it to him if he seems ok? he getting back to normal now. Not all his self yet but a lot better. will i know if he's in pain he don't limp or heap when you touch him. so should i giving it to him for being stiff cause i know he will be.

I don't let him out of my sight now. which i didn't before either .

I have to go away in morning and i am definily taking him with me. but i don't want to give him meds if he is going to be knocked out.

And another thing isn't it against the law if you hit a animal and don't stop?

well the di** was not going to stop either. until my husband called him a bad name. then he slammed on his breaks and told my husband that he owns him a aploygie (sp) for calling him a name. well you know my husband when off the deep end. not one time did the man ask how gimpy was. I told him to leave so i could just take him to vets. My husband would of been in jail They were still yelling at each when the guy drove away. he hit the breaks a couple times to come back cause my hb hit a nerve. But usually it is me going nuts. not him he's the calm one. he was swearing all day had to tell him to shut-up a couple times that gimpy will be ok. Sorry so long

(GIMPY WAS REALLY LUCKY)

LONG STORY SHORT Gimpy just wanted a piece of tail. ( if u know what i mean) another yorkie around in heat. he went wild.

[sweetr72]

Just after Christmas my beautiful cocker spanial "Moocho" was hit by a car too. My husband went outside and didnt "click" the door shut and Mooch pushed it open...he ran right to the road and was hit immediately. He died within 5 minutes, the driver knew he hit our precious boy as he did stop for a second but he drove off while my Moocho dragged himself back towards the house. I was hurt that he didnt even check to see if Moocho was okay but I think people get scared and dont want to face the dogs owner knowing we will be heartbroken. Moocho was my guy!! I now have two babies that light my life now...

Dawn

[Yorkie3]

So happy your baby is going to be okay. I don't blame your husband, I would have being going ballistic myself.

[alaskayorkie]

I'm glad your pup survived. That must have been terrifying. Idiots like that aren't worth the risk of your husband going to jail. How could anyone not stop after hitting a dog?

I don't know about the meds and would trust my vet.

[red98vett]

POOR BABY !! The only thing I want to say is if you think he's in shock - why are you taking him somewhere ? I would think he'd be more comfortable in his own enviornment rather than travelling.

IF my girls were hit by a car I would not leave their side till I knew they were 100% A-OK. Don't mean to be so blunt but it's something for you to think about.

You seemed more upset with the driver and didn't say what exactly was wrong with him ....so I'll wish him the best and hope he feels better soon -
but the medication questions are something you should go over with your vet -

[kriston]

Originally Posted by BAER

My yorkie got hit by a car to day. Took him to vet right away. she said he was ok and in shock. gave him a cordazone shot and give me other instructions like watch him close with his breathing, keep him warm. and baby him. also tomorrow give him deramaxx for pain well I searched about the med but couldn't find any thing helpful about it. does any one know any think about this med? I did see it can knock him out

Should I give it to him if he seems ok? .

I would trust my vet. What are the extent of his injuries? I think I'd probably stay home with him if you think he may still be in shock. Poor little guy, I hope he gets better quickly!

[IluvLucy]

I'd do what the vet says. I think I'd keep him at home for a couple of days, too. I hate to think what I'd do if Lucy got hit by a car!

[GucciMyGirl]

I agree with the others do as the vet says, and I would not travel with him until he is better. Good luck and I hope he gets better quickly...

[BAER]

Gimpy is doing alot better today!!! starting to play with the cat now. The reason i took him away is because i could not get out of going it was very important. husband had to go to. I didn't trust leaving him home a lone or even with some one else. I wanted him by my side in case some thing was to go wrong. we when three miles from home. for about 5 hours. and i took every thing to make him feel comfortable even his bed. I love my baby more than life it self he is my world.
i would not try and do any thing to hurt him more. I feel bad enough with what happen to him yesterday.


like i said in first thread .vet said he was in shock and bite his tonuge. she gave him a cordazone shot. i Don't want to say thats all the injuries because i don't want any one to think i am taking this lightly. I am scared and worried about him.

I was just asking about meds cause i came home and search about it and read that it can knock a yorkie out. and i did not want to knock him out i had the fear of him being out and not coming too. just wanted to know if any one else every had to used this med and how it effected their yorkie i have read things where vets give yorkie to much anatisa and they don't come too and i feel that's the same as knocking them out I trust my vet but every body is human and makes mistakes.

i just felt like i had to explain my self or vent and explain i was upset with the driver but gimpy was my mean concern.

I am sorry if i seem bi***Y but i didn't sleep at all in the last 24 hours i sat up all night watch his breathing to make sure he was ok. and still watching him

[yorkieusa]

I'd be very careful with that medication. Read this article:

Even painkillers for dogs have serious risks
By Julie Schmit, USA TODAY
Like pain relievers for humans, pain relievers for dogs are big business, improving the lives of millions.
And like pain relievers for humans, those for dogs have led to heartache.

Pfizer pioneered the market for dog painkillers when it introduced Rimadyl in 1997. Nearly 15 million dogs have taken it, many for pain from degenerative joint disease, or osteoarthritis.

Rimadyl now has four competitors with more likely. The market for dog arthritis pain medications tops $130 million a year and is growing about 13% a year, consulting firm Wood Mackenzie says.

But 3,200 dogs have died or been put down after taking the drugs, Food and Drug Administration records show. Almost 19,000 dogs have had bad reactions to them.

The FDA says the drugs are safe, if properly used. Drugmakers say fewer than 1% of dogs have bad reactions to them. If not for the drugs, many dogs might be put to sleep sooner, they say.

"In theory, the drugs are safer for dogs than aspirin," says Steve Marks, head of small-animal medicine at the University of Illinois.

Yet the deaths and other adverse events are a reminder that all drugs pose risks, including those for animals. They also underscore that a drug's risks may not be fully known until the drug is widely sold, despite the FDA's stamp of approval.

Several million dogs received Rimadyl before its warning label was updated to add mention of death in rare cases. No. 2 pain reliever Deramaxx was marketed for a year before its label was so changed.

Despite stronger warnings and other safeguards, the drugs continue to create controversy. Some dog owners and veterinarians say the drugs are being overprescribed by vets who don't always give risk information to owners and who, like doctors for humans, are often educated on drugs by pharmaceutical companies.

"There are no safe drugs. There are only safe doctors," says Robert Rogers, founder of the Critter Fixer Pet Hospital in Spring, Texas. "The large number of adverse events occur with these drugs because veterinarians don't know how to use them." Drugmakers share the blame, he says. Their sales representatives often fail to present adequate risk information.

Adverse-event reports

Through November 2004, the FDA received almost 13,000 adverse-event reports about Rimadyl, far more than for any other dog pain reliever.

Pfizer's database includes almost 20,000 adverse-event reports. The FDA's data include those "possibly" or "probably" linked to the drug. Adverse events for all drugs are believed to be under-reported.

Pfizer won't release Rimadyl's revenue, but it says Rimadyl has the most reports because it's the oldest and biggest dog pain reliever.

Deramaxx has been used by about 1 million dogs since its 2002 launch, owner Novartis says. The FDA's data include 2,813 adverse-event reports for Deramaxx, including 630 dogs who died or were put down.

Rimadyl, with a generic name of carprofen, originated at Roche Laboratories as an anti-inflammatory drug for people. Deramaxx was developed by Novartis for dogs but was discovered by G.D. Searle, where Celebrex originated.

Both Rimadyl and Deramaxx are non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, or NSAIDs, as is ibuprofen and aspirin for humans. Deramaxx is also a COX-2 inhibitor, like Celebrex and Vioxx, the pain reliever for people withdrawn from the market in September because of heart attack and stroke risk.

NSAIDs cause many of the same problems in dogs that they do in humans: Vomiting, diarrhea and ulcers are the most common. Reports of heart problems associated with dog NSAIDs are rare, the FDA says.

Before getting FDA approval, Rimadyl was tested in 549 dogs; Deramaxx in about 700. That's far fewer than the number of subjects in clinical drug trials for human drugs. Erectile dysfunction drug Cialis, for instance, was evaluated in more than 4,000 patients before it got FDA approval.

When it hit the market, Rimadyl was heralded as a "wonder drug" for freeing dogs from pain. Happy, bounding dogs were shown on TV commercials. "No drug in the history of veterinarian medicine has been met with such instant success," says Steve Dale, host of radio show Steve Dale's Pet World.

Rimadyl's fast start had a dark side: Reports of dogs suffering liver damage and other effects began pouring in. One of those dogs was George, a 12-year-old chocolate Labrador retriever owned by Jean Townsend of Johns Island, S.C.

She saw the Rimadyl ads and asked her veterinarian whether Rimadyl could help George, who, while seemingly healthy, was moving slower. Rimadyl seemed to work, but after several weeks, George sometimes couldn't move. He started vomiting and had blood in his stool. Within 30 days of starting Rimadyl, George was put down. An autopsy showed liver damage, ulceration and bleeding.

"I had no earthly idea I was killing my dog," says the 68-year-old retired government worker.

Townsend says she wasn't warned of the risks and didn't ask, trusting her veterinarian. She refused Pfizer's offer of $249 and filed a lawsuit in 1999 that was joined by 300 others.

Pfizer settled in 2003 to avoid costly litigation, it says. Each plaintiff received about $1,000. Pfizer didn't admit wrongdoing and says it informed the FDA of side effects as soon as they were reported.

"We were incapable of informing the world of what we didn't know," spokesman Robert Fauteux says.

Pfizer updated Rimadyl's label twice, the last time in 1999 noting that death occurred in rare instances. That year, it stopped TV ads. Today's print ads include the death warning.

Owners don't always get info

Deramaxx took a similar path. It went to market in 2002 with a label saying the drug "was well tolerated" with an adverse event rate comparable to dogs treated with placebos. Once again, adverse events after the drug was sold proved otherwise.

Both drugmakers now issue information sheets for dog owners describing the drugs' risks and proper use. Pfizer even attaches the sheet to Rimadyl bottles. But it may not get to consumers because veterinarians frequently repackage drugs into smaller vials. Marks says risk information is rarely discussed with clients. The FDA has said pet owners often complain about not getting the sheets.

Pooter, a 7-year-old black Labrador, went in for a checkup in February, says his owner Vickie McCullen-Main, 52, of Bethel Springs, Tenn. Pooter's veterinarian diagnosed a respiratory infection, prescribed NSAID Metacam and sent him home with a week's supply of Rimadyl and an antibiotic.

The doctor "never mentioned anything at all about the risks," says McCullen-Main. Nor did he check Pooter's blood to make sure he didn't have weaknesses that would make him a bad NSAID candidate.

Pooter started to drool, lost his appetite and bladder control. Thirteen days after his checkup, he was put to sleep. McCullen-Main says Pooter should not have received medication for pain because, "He didn't have pain."

She doesn't want Rimadyl or the other NSAIDs removed from the market. She just wants people to know, "These drugs have risks."

http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...ain-usat_x.htm

[Lila]

I didn't have to worry about pain-killers for Kia; she received morphine from the vet. I did find though, she was listless and unwilling to eat and drink-both from pain and the anaesthetic I think. I mixed a tablespoon of honey in a bit of water, and with a syringe, fed a little to her at a time; she seemed to appreciate it. It gave her a bit of energy, calories and water all at the same time, with little effort on her part. The next day I gave her more, and still do at time, although she is feeling a little better and both eating and drinking by herself.
The honey and water cannot hurt her, and seems to help, so it is something I will do whenever necessary. I liken it to me requiring a good, hot cup of tea when not feeling right, with honey in it on rare occasions.

[luvdorkyyorkies]

I would discuss using the pain med with your vet. Truth is if your yorkie isnt acting stiff or in great pain.......just me myself would skip.
But if he isnt totally himself, talk to your vet, it may have other properties such as reducing swelling that your dog may really need at this time.
I understand your reluctance to give it. I too question some meds I have used in the past.