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Paddys mum · 08-08-2006, 03:15 AM

Hi,we had to take Megan to the vets yesterday as she is still bleeding rom having puppies 2 weeks ago on wednesday. We took her for a check up the day after she had the pups, (20 hours after to be precise!) and the vet gave her a shot of oxytosin and antibiotics before he even explained why,and I did ask! He told me that the blood and gunge should have stopped my now and the shot would stop it. We had to pay £40 for the treatment and was then told by dog breeding friends that they had never had this done as nature takes its course naturally and the gunge would stop on its own when its ready. Well I rung the vets the other day and asked how long they thought Meg should be bleeding for after the treatment she had nd I was told that the treatment given was for the puppy stuck inside,the nurse said the oxytosin would help her pass it. I told them there was no puppy or placenta stuck inside and she went silent,I asked if Meg was actually injected with anything more than water and she went to have a word with the vet. She came back and told me that she had been told not to discuss the matter with me any further and if I wanted to talk to someone I would have to ring the pratice manager (who is not a vet!) We have already been told to find a new vets by them so last night we took her to a different one. They checked Meg over and said she has a uterine infection and put her on antibiotics. We have got to go back on thursday and if it hasnt got any better she has to have swabs and a scan. All this may lead to her being spayed to get rid of all the infection. I cant believe that the vets we have always used have treated us like this but at the end of the day its there loss as I am a five dog customer and now going elsewere! I just hope these antibiotics work as I think Megs been through enough for a few months!

heatherjean8737 · 08-08-2006, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Paddys mum

Hi,we had to take Megan to the vets yesterday as she is still bleeding rom having puppies 2 weeks ago on wednesday. We took her for a check up the day after she had the pups, (20 hours after to be precise!) and the vet gave her a shot of oxytosin and antibiotics before he even explained why,and I did ask! He told me that the blood and gunge should have stopped my now and the shot would stop it. We had to pay £40 for the treatment and was then told by dog breeding friends that they had never had this done as nature takes its course naturally and the gunge would stop on its own when its ready. Well I rung the vets the other day and asked how long they thought Meg should be bleeding for after the treatment she had nd I was told that the treatment given was for the puppy stuck inside,the nurse said the oxytosin would help her pass it. I told them there was no puppy or placenta stuck inside and she went silent,I asked if Meg was actually injected with anything more than water and she went to have a word with the vet. She came back and told me that she had been told not to discuss the matter with me any further and if I wanted to talk to someone I would have to ring the pratice manager (who is not a vet!) We have already been told to find a new vets by them so last night we took her to a different one. They checked Meg over and said she has a uterine infection and put her on antibiotics. We have got to go back on thursday and if it hasnt got any better she has to have swabs and a scan. All this may lead to her being spayed to get rid of all the infection. I cant believe that the vets we have always used have treated us like this but at the end of the day its there loss as I am a five dog customer and now going elsewere! I just hope these antibiotics work as I think Megs been through enough for a few months!

awww poor thing. can you make the old vet pay for the spay if she needs it since they are the ones that did this to her? that is horrible. you should post another thread and tell everyone not to ever use that vet again. hope she pulls through and doesn't have to go through anything else!!!

Paddys mum · 08-08-2006, 08:58 AM

Ok,most of you guys are in America n places Ive never even heard of!!! But if there are any Brits out there the vets responsible are Ambivet, Heage Road, Ripley, Derbyshire ENGLAND!!!!!!! They are the same vet that charged me £25 for the removal of a single tick! Ive been trying to find some sort of vet review website so I can express my opinions on there but as yet am unsucesfull. On a good note the bleeding does seem to have eased already, so things may not be so bad.

Lacy's Mom · 08-08-2006, 06:30 PM

I don't believe it is uncommon or irresponsible to give a shot of oxytocin to clean out the uterus. It causes contractions to force out all the pus and bacteria in the uterus to try to prevent a spay (which I think should be done at her age anyway because every heat cycle a uterine infection is a probability). For the injection to be effective the cervix must be open so the contents can be expelled which I am assuming it still is if she is having discharge. I am also assuming the discharge is foul smelling.

Do a search on pyrometra and you will see what you are up against. I personally would not waist the time or energy on treatment (or risk) and just have her spayed.

Lacy's Mom · 08-08-2006, 06:39 PM

Sorry, it's pyometra not pyrometra. Here's one link.

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...&S=0&C=0&A=603

Paddys mum · 08-09-2006, 01:56 AM

Im no vet so I cant say weather it was a good thing or not to give her the shot but its the way we were lied to and then thrown from the vets to find another,it infuriates me as I feel like they were just taking money from us. I tried the link but it doesnt work so Im going to search it. The vet at the new place we went to did smell her fingers and said how it smells bad (she wore gloves and told me how she only does that sort of thing in work hours, oh the comedien!!) So maby your right about the infection. If I do go ahead and spay her how long do I have to have to wait because of the puppies,they are only 2 weeks today.

Paddys mum · 08-09-2006, 02:03 AM

Just read an artical on it and thats frightened the

out of me. Ok so how do I convince the vets that this is what she has. They will probably say Im overreacting. Ill try now anyway,Ill let you know how I go.

dizpatch · 08-09-2006, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

Sorry, it's pyometra not pyrometra. Here's one link.

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...&S=0&C=0&A=603

This is a great article. Thank you for posting it.
This actually just happened to my Phoebe. I had no idea. I have been trying to share her story as much as possible.

There is another thread going right now about spay or not to spay. I hope you dont mind if I put this link on that thread.

newmommy · 08-09-2006, 06:56 AM

be careful. you can lose your dog to this. my pomeranian had an emergency c section due to this. It is NOT something to mess around with, if I were you Id just get her spayed!!

Sophie'smom · 08-09-2006, 07:26 AM

I had a poodle who had this. We where at my sisters getting ready for her wedding. I kept a diaper on her at night to make sure she didn't have an accident at my sisters. Well when I took the diaper off it was full of pus. I was in a complete panic. It was my sisters wedding day and I had to do everyones hair. My husband and dad took her to the vet where they gave her a shot and antibiotics. They said to get her spayed as soon as we got home. My vet said it was much better that it drained out or the outcome could have been much worse. She went through everything really well. I would get Megan spayed if I where you. I hope everything goes well.

Paddys mum · 08-09-2006, 12:07 PM

I rung the vet and they seemed to believe its not that serious,I asked how long before I can get her speyed and they said when her milks dried up,as if there is no hurry and I have all the time in the world. How long do I have to wait as I just want to go and get her done now.

Paddys mum · 08-09-2006, 12:10 PM

Please tell me more about Phoebe!

Lacy's Mom · 08-09-2006, 12:26 PM

I don't have any personal experience with this, but through research I have found that the bacteria can enter the milk supply so I think I would go ahead with the spay and start bottle feeding the puppies. They're about 2 weeks now and a healthy size so it would only last a couple of weeks before they are eating on their own. Because of her age and the number of large puppies, weaning early will also benefit the Mom.

If Megan is not acting lethargic and eating well, maybe it's not that bad and can wait until a couple of weeks, but I would only let a new vet make this judgment call. Maybe they could continue to give her antibiotic injections for a couple of weeks and test the milk for bacteria and hold off on the spay.

When your vet became mad at you, I wrongly made the assumption that he advised a spay and you were against it so he didn't want to be responsible if Megan died.

Keep us posted, our prayers are with you.

Paddys mum · 08-09-2006, 02:24 PM

The first time anyone mentioned speying was tuesday when we visited the new vets,they said if the infection doesnt clear up this week they will do a scan and swabs and then speying becomes an option. Nah,if vets were as honest as you lot she would already be booked in!! Im going to see them again so I will tell them all this and see if they can hold off as long as possible, I would rather the pups feed from her as she knows what shes doing more than me. Thanks for your help and I will keep you posted!

08-08-2006, 03:15 AM	#1
Paddys mum Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Derbyshire UK Posts: 185	Megan may need spaying due to infection. Hi,we had to take Megan to the vets yesterday as she is still bleeding rom having puppies 2 weeks ago on wednesday. We took her for a check up the day after she had the pups, (20 hours after to be precise!) and the vet gave her a shot of oxytosin and antibiotics before he even explained why,and I did ask! He told me that the blood and gunge should have stopped my now and the shot would stop it. We had to pay £40 for the treatment and was then told by dog breeding friends that they had never had this done as nature takes its course naturally and the gunge would stop on its own when its ready. Well I rung the vets the other day and asked how long they thought Meg should be bleeding for after the treatment she had nd I was told that the treatment given was for the puppy stuck inside,the nurse said the oxytosin would help her pass it. I told them there was no puppy or placenta stuck inside and she went silent,I asked if Meg was actually injected with anything more than water and she went to have a word with the vet. She came back and told me that she had been told not to discuss the matter with me any further and if I wanted to talk to someone I would have to ring the pratice manager (who is not a vet!) We have already been told to find a new vets by them so last night we took her to a different one. They checked Meg over and said she has a uterine infection and put her on antibiotics. We have got to go back on thursday and if it hasnt got any better she has to have swabs and a scan. All this may lead to her being spayed to get rid of all the infection. I cant believe that the vets we have always used have treated us like this but at the end of the day its there loss as I am a five dog customer and now going elsewere! I just hope these antibiotics work as I think Megs been through enough for a few months!

08-09-2006, 06:56 AM	#9
newmommy Keep Me Away From eBay Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,100	be careful. you can lose your dog to this. my pomeranian had an emergency c section due to this. It is NOT something to mess around with, if I were you Id just get her spayed!! __________________ There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face!!

08-09-2006, 07:26 AM	#10
Sophie'smom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,278	I had a poodle who had this. We where at my sisters getting ready for her wedding. I kept a diaper on her at night to make sure she didn't have an accident at my sisters. Well when I took the diaper off it was full of pus. I was in a complete panic. It was my sisters wedding day and I had to do everyones hair. My husband and dad took her to the vet where they gave her a shot and antibiotics. They said to get her spayed as soon as we got home. My vet said it was much better that it drained out or the outcome could have been much worse. She went through everything really well. I would get Megan spayed if I where you. I hope everything goes well. __________________ Tanya & Sophie

08-08-2006, 08:58 AM	#3
Paddys mum Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Derbyshire UK Posts: 185	Ok,most of you guys are in America n places Ive never even heard of!!! But if there are any Brits out there the vets responsible are Ambivet, Heage Road, Ripley, Derbyshire ENGLAND!!!!!!! They are the same vet that charged me £25 for the removal of a single tick! Ive been trying to find some sort of vet review website so I can express my opinions on there but as yet am unsucesfull. On a good note the bleeding does seem to have eased already, so things may not be so bad.

08-08-2006, 06:30 PM	#4
Lacy's Mom YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 2,931	I don't believe it is uncommon or irresponsible to give a shot of oxytocin to clean out the uterus. It causes contractions to force out all the pus and bacteria in the uterus to try to prevent a spay (which I think should be done at her age anyway because every heat cycle a uterine infection is a probability). For the injection to be effective the cervix must be open so the contents can be expelled which I am assuming it still is if she is having discharge. I am also assuming the discharge is foul smelling. Do a search on pyrometra and you will see what you are up against. I personally would not waist the time or energy on treatment (or risk) and just have her spayed.

08-08-2006, 06:39 PM	#5
Lacy's Mom YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 2,931	Sorry, it's pyometra not pyrometra. Here's one link. http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...&S=0&C=0&A=603

08-09-2006, 01:56 AM	#6
Paddys mum Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Derbyshire UK Posts: 185	Im no vet so I cant say weather it was a good thing or not to give her the shot but its the way we were lied to and then thrown from the vets to find another,it infuriates me as I feel like they were just taking money from us. I tried the link but it doesnt work so Im going to search it. The vet at the new place we went to did smell her fingers and said how it smells bad (she wore gloves and told me how she only does that sort of thing in work hours, oh the comedien!!) So maby your right about the infection. If I do go ahead and spay her how long do I have to have to wait because of the puppies,they are only 2 weeks today.

08-09-2006, 02:03 AM	#7
Paddys mum Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Derbyshire UK Posts: 185	Just read an artical on it and thats frightened the out of me. Ok so how do I convince the vets that this is what she has. They will probably say Im overreacting. Ill try now anyway,Ill let you know how I go.

08-09-2006, 12:07 PM	#11
Paddys mum Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Derbyshire UK Posts: 185	I rung the vet and they seemed to believe its not that serious,I asked how long before I can get her speyed and they said when her milks dried up,as if there is no hurry and I have all the time in the world. How long do I have to wait as I just want to go and get her done now.

08-09-2006, 12:10 PM	#12
Paddys mum Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Derbyshire UK Posts: 185	Please tell me more about Phoebe!

08-09-2006, 12:26 PM	#13
Lacy's Mom YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 2,931	I don't have any personal experience with this, but through research I have found that the bacteria can enter the milk supply so I think I would go ahead with the spay and start bottle feeding the puppies. They're about 2 weeks now and a healthy size so it would only last a couple of weeks before they are eating on their own. Because of her age and the number of large puppies, weaning early will also benefit the Mom. If Megan is not acting lethargic and eating well, maybe it's not that bad and can wait until a couple of weeks, but I would only let a new vet make this judgment call. Maybe they could continue to give her antibiotic injections for a couple of weeks and test the milk for bacteria and hold off on the spay. When your vet became mad at you, I wrongly made the assumption that he advised a spay and you were against it so he didn't want to be responsible if Megan died. Keep us posted, our prayers are with you.

08-09-2006, 02:24 PM	#14
Paddys mum Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Derbyshire UK Posts: 185	The first time anyone mentioned speying was tuesday when we visited the new vets,they said if the infection doesnt clear up this week they will do a scan and swabs and then speying becomes an option. Nah,if vets were as honest as you lot she would already be booked in!! Im going to see them again so I will tell them all this and see if they can hold off as long as possible, I would rather the pups feed from her as she knows what shes doing more than me. Thanks for your help and I will keep you posted!