Non stop snorting?? help!!

[Catrina]

Ever since last night, Princess has been making these snorting noises through her nose... and then once in a while she has these "attacks" where it looks like she can't breathe and snorts non stop and she looks so scared!! these little "attacks" happen for like around 30 secs... I dont know what else to do but just pat her back and try to calm her down?? When I look at her while shes having these "attacks" it just looks like shes trying really hard to breathe through her nose but cant... her mouth is opened like shes going to throw up, but she doesnt.. then all of a sudden it stops... then the same cycle continues after a while..

I dont know what to do??

Oh btw, couple days ago, she went to the vet and got that intranasal shot where they squirted the vaccine up her nose... maybe it dried up there or something and now she can't breathe???

Has this happened to anyone before????

[Lacy's Mom]

Go to www.glassyorkies.com - choose hypoglycemia on the left and then choose collapsed trachea. This is the best article I've seen to try to distinguish between reverse sneezing and collapsed trachea. It is probably harmless reverse sneezing, but if you suspect collapsed trachea you need to see a vet.

[diva pup]

Don't get panicky yet BUT most of the show breeders I have spoken to will not use the intranasal vaccines because of this very problem. If it persists I would certainly call your veterinarian. Good Luck.

[LuvMySissy]

Originally Posted by diva pup

Don't get panicky yet BUT most of the show breeders I have spoken to will not use the intranasal vaccines because of this very problem. If it persists I would certainly call your veterinarian. Good Luck.

Because it causes the kennel cough??? That was my suspicision when Sissy got sick right after getting hers - the vet called it an upper respiratory infection - but any way you slice it, kennel cough was the result.

[Kona]

Kona got her cough right after that shot too... hmmm

[Lacy's Mom]

Originally Posted by Kona

Kona got her cough right after that shot too... hmmm

The intranasal vaccine is a live vaccine and although it doesn't cause actual kennel cough, it can cause the vaccine form of the disease and is spreadable to other dogs. I don't ever board my dogs, attend training classes, etc. so I never give it in either form and have never had any of my dogs come down with it.

BORDETELLA VACCINE:

The bordetella vaccinations are of some help in controlling kennel cough and other respiratory infections caused by this bacteria. Anyone who has show dogs, kennel dogs or who boards their dogs may benefit from this optional protection. However, some dogs are sensitive to this vaccination and may develop coughing, runny nose, slight congestion. As with people, this is a live virus that can cause the symptoms of this disease although it will help boost the immunity. There are two vaccine types for this protection. One being an injection and the other being a nasal vaccine. (Spray type). The intranasal vaccine gives the most immediate immunity. The injectable bacterin must be given twice for opptimum protection. The first injection is given at age 5-6wks of age and is repeated two to four weeks later. Puppies can be given the intranasal vaccine as early as 3 weeks of age.

[LuvMySissy]

Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

The intranasal vaccine is a live vaccine and although it doesn't cause actual kennel cough, it can cause the vaccine form of the disease and is spreadable to other dogs. I don't ever board my dogs, attend training classes, etc. so I never give it in either form and have never had any of my dogs come down with it.

BORDETELLA VACCINE:

The bordetella vaccinations are of some help in controlling kennel cough and other respiratory infections caused by this bacteria. Anyone who has show dogs, kennel dogs or who boards their dogs may benefit from this optional protection. However, some dogs are sensitive to this vaccination and may develop coughing, runny nose, slight congestion. As with people, this is a live virus that can cause the symptoms of this disease although it will help boost the immunity. There are two vaccine types for this protection. One being an injection and the other being a nasal vaccine. (Spray type). The intranasal vaccine gives the most immediate immunity. The injectable bacterin must be given twice for opptimum protection. The first injection is given at age 5-6wks of age and is repeated two to four weeks later. Puppies can be given the intranasal vaccine as early as 3 weeks of age.

Thank you for that information. Very good to know for the future!!

[Rae Rae]

Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

The intranasal vaccine is a live vaccine and although it doesn't cause actual kennel cough, it can cause the vaccine form of the disease and is spreadable to other dogs. I don't ever board my dogs, attend training classes, etc. so I never give it in either form and have never had any of my dogs come down with it.

BORDETELLA VACCINE:

The bordetella vaccinations are of some help in controlling kennel cough and other respiratory infections caused by this bacteria. Anyone who has show dogs, kennel dogs or who boards their dogs may benefit from this optional protection. However, some dogs are sensitive to this vaccination and may develop coughing, runny nose, slight congestion. As with people, this is a live virus that can cause the symptoms of this disease although it will help boost the immunity. There are two vaccine types for this protection. One being an injection and the other being a nasal vaccine. (Spray type). The intranasal vaccine gives the most immediate immunity. The injectable bacterin must be given twice for opptimum protection. The first injection is given at age 5-6wks of age and is repeated two to four weeks later. Puppies can be given the intranasal vaccine as early as 3 weeks of age.

Where did you get this information? Viruses aren't live (actually I think it's a huge science debate, but I'm pretty sure from what I learned, their not), but vaccines definitly aren't. I believe thier a mutated virus, but have to double check in the text book that's in the car. I'm just wondering because if it's a site that says virus's are alive, then I don't know about how good the rest of what the site says is.

Glad I found this thread...Rocky's been snorting for the past week or so.

[red98vett]

If she's snorting from excitment or cant seem to catch her breath - gently cover the nostrils with your fingers...I sort of tap the nose and it really helps when my girls do this. You want her to breath thru her mouth....

when I say cover the nostrils I mean for a few seconds only.....I use the ONE Mississippi ...Two Mississipppi type of count and release...works every time !

[Lacy's Mom]

Originally Posted by Rae Rae

Where did you get this information? Viruses aren't live (actually I think it's a huge science debate, but I'm pretty sure from what I learned, their not), but vaccines definitly aren't. I believe thier a mutated virus, but have to double check in the text book that's in the car. I'm just wondering because if it's a site that says virus's are alive, then I don't know about how good the rest of what the site says is.

Glad I found this thread...Rocky's been snorting for the past week or so.

I don't know exactly where this came from, but do some research and you will find that many vaccines are live viruses (modified from the original form that they are being used to protect against.

Some vaccines are killed virus and some are live modified viruses. While they are not injecting say the parvo virus they are injecting a live modified virus similar to parvo that the body will create antibodies against so if the pup is exposed to parvo the antibodies created to fight the modified live similar virus will also be able to destroy the actual parvo virus.

I don't know of any controversy saying viruses aren't alive, they can mutate and adapt so as far as I'm concerned they are alive. The only controversy I know of in relation to viruses is that antibiotics are not effective against them (only effective against bacterium).

[Rae Rae]

Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

I don't know exactly where this came from, but do some research and you will find that many vaccines are live viruses (modified from the original form that they are being used to protect against.

Some vaccines are killed virus and some are live modified viruses. While they are not injecting say the parvo virus they are injecting a live modified virus similar to parvo that the body will create antibodies against so if the pup is exposed to parvo the antibodies created to fight the modified live similar virus will also be able to destroy the actual parvo virus.

I don't know of any controversy saying viruses aren't alive, they can mutate and adapt so as far as I'm concerned they are alive. The only controversy I know of in relation to viruses is that antibiotics are not effective against them (only effective against bacterium).

They aren't considered alive because they have no DNA or RNA. Yes, they can mutate (that is why theres a new flu vaccine every year). I just spend a whole semester on this stuff, lol.

[Lacy's Mom]

I just did some very quick research on whether a virus is living or not. You're right it's under debate (not decided), but determining this seems to be important for the theory of evolution. My personal views don't let me consider evolution, only a divine creator so I don't know much about this. So maybe the modified live vaccine is not technically alive according to the scientific defintion of life, but once it joins with a cell it has attributes of life.

From canismajor.com

Which is better, killed virus vaccines or modified-live types?
Each type of vaccine has strengths and weaknesses. Modified-live vaccines provide stronger, longer-lasting, and more rapid protection, including local immunity. They are less expensive and may require only one dose to be effective. They have a potential to become active and cause disease, especially in a patient with a weakened immune system; to create immunosuppression, or to cause abortions in pregnant dogs. Careful handling and storage are required to prevent breakdown of the active ingredients.

Killed vaccines cannot become virulent and are less likely to be immunosuppressive or cause abortions. They remain stable during storage. They are more likely to cause allergic reactions, require more initial injections and more frequent booster shots, and do not produce local immunity.

A good example of the differences between modified-live and killed vaccines is the use of Bordatella vaccinations for kennel cough. Killed vaccines require two injections but are only 60-80 percent effective against disease and don't provide local immunity at the level of the airway. Modified- live vaccines are given intranasally, require only one dose, and start providing local immunity within 48 hours.

[Rae Rae]

Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

I just did some very quick research on whether a virus is living or not. You're right it's under debate (not decided), but determining this seems to be important for the theory of evolution. My personal views don't let me consider evolution, only a divine creator so I don't know much about this. So maybe the modified live vaccine is not technically alive according to the scientific defintion of life, but once it joins with a cell it has attributes of life.

Yup very good! LOL....atleast I got something from my micro class, even though I switched majors again. I also believe God created life, but when you take biology courses you learn all about that stuff. I still don't think it's true though...just my opinion.

[Pipersmommy]

Misha my Maltese has been doing this. I took her to the Vet a couple of weeks ago to see is she had clogged tear ducts. He put a solution in them to get a better view. Ever since then she has been snorting like she is having a hard time breathing through her nose. I took her back to the Vet & she didn't snort one bit. He checked her lungs. He looked at her trachea, in surgery to see if that was it,( she was having her baby canines removed) he said she was fine. She does it mostly in the morning after lying down all night. I don't know what else to try either. I bought a vaporizer, were trying that next. My Vet said nothing is wrong, he just hasn't seen her when she is doing this. I feel so hopeless watching her.

[GurleyGirl]

Could it be reverse sneezing? My Bitsy used to do this all the time.... sounded like she couldn't breathe.... she seems to have outgrown it.
I used to put my finger over her nose and it would stop.

Hope you find out what is causing your pup's problem.