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Joysie · 05-15-2006, 08:42 PM

Long story short, our beagle probably ate a brown recluse. He chewed up a container, which a dead spider was in. I repeat, the spider was dead, but should we be worried....or VERY worried??!!?

Lacy's Mom · 05-15-2006, 08:51 PM

Their toxin is what is called necrotoxin which is flesh eating. I would think that even dead he might have the poison in him. How recent was his demise? My dad got bit by one and almost lost his arm. If it just happened I would consider giving him some hydrogen peroxide to induce vomiting after researching for the proper dose or calling a vet or the poison control number ($35 charge). Or, you could be sneaky and call the human poison control and say your baby ate it, you'll probably get an answer before they find out your baby is a dog! Just kidding, I think.

Joysie · 05-15-2006, 08:53 PM

well, sometime throughout the day. we left at 1, and he managed to get ahold of this plastic bowl sometime throughout the day. We just got home about a half an hour ago...

red rock blues · 05-16-2006, 09:02 AM

I would get him to the vet for some serious antibiotics, fast. If the venom is dealt with early enough there is less damage. Myself... I wouldn't chance it. Hope he's okay. Good luck, and let us know how he's doing.

chachi · 05-16-2006, 09:17 AM

Oh how scary! I would get him to the vet!

sneri13 · 05-16-2006, 09:20 AM

I would go right to the vet. Please keep us posted.

Joysie · 05-16-2006, 01:11 PM

well, it is another family members dog, and she chose NOT to take him to the vet due to advice that was given to her. The dog is acting just fine, no problems at all...I sure hope he stays that way...

sims822257 · 05-16-2006, 01:16 PM

YIKES - I would take him to the vet myself than

- that is very sad and scary! I would have to know he was going to be okay - not go by any ones advice but the doctors. I hope he is okay - keep us posted!!!

rrosenberry · 05-16-2006, 01:22 PM

Are you sure it was a brown recluse? SCARY if it was.

SheilaCameron · 05-16-2006, 06:34 PM

Yeah I would at least call the vet. We were just talking about them with humans and my sister has a friend who was bit and didn't realize it for days. She got very very ill before they figured out what was going on days later.

I do suspect, however, that the stomach acid gobbled up that spider and all the nasty stuff.

SnowWa · 05-16-2006, 10:20 PM

JOsie - Am I wrong in thinking that more than an entire day has gone by - and the dog has had no problems - plus you aren't positive that it was a brown recluse - plus the spider was dead?

I'm not sure I'd be too worried.

Carol Jean

SnowWa · 05-16-2006, 10:23 PM

JOsie - Am I wrong in thinking that more than an entire day has gone by - and the dog has had no problems - plus you aren't positive that it was a brown recluse - plus the spider was dead?

I'm not sure that eating one of these spiders would have the same effect as having it "inject" venom into the dog.

And - even though some people have had severe reactions --most of the time reactions from brown recluse bites aren't serious.

I'm not sure I'd be too worried......

Carol Jean

heather_lathrop · 05-17-2006, 05:31 AM

hmm. This is very interesting. I have been bit by these spiders on several occasions. But don't have a clue about eating one. Honestly, the brown recluse spider is SO hard to kill. And people mistake other spiders for it all the time. Any news on how this little one is doing now?

rrosenberry · 05-17-2006, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by heather_lathrop

hmm. This is very interesting. I have been bit by these spiders on several occasions. But don't have a clue about eating one. Honestly, the brown recluse spider is SO hard to kill. And people mistake other spiders for it all the time. Any news on how this little one is doing now?

You've been bit by a brown recluse? Do tell... I have gotten that totally gross email,, is it always like that, when ya get bit?? I'm so intrigued...

Joysie · 05-17-2006, 11:14 AM

update:

Well, he is doing just fine! We are very thankful. We had been in touch with the vet and he said that in order for the spider to hurt the dog, the fangs would have had to penetrate his tissue at some point. Since it was dead for a few hours or so, the vet said this is highly unlikely. He also said that if there was something wrong, it would be very evident. I was worried that the dog may have internal problems from it at the very least, but I was relieved when the doctor said, "oh no, you will be able to tell". Well, I was relieved in a very scared way....

thanks to everyone who posted!

(oh, and although we were not 100%, we were pretty sure that this spider WAS a brown recluse...while it was still in the plastic bowl(dead), we searched it online, and it was a match. Also, my neighbor is a zoologist, and he agreed. scary stuff...)

05-15-2006, 08:42 PM	#1
Joysie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 101	brown recluse Long story short, our beagle probably ate a brown recluse. He chewed up a container, which a dead spider was in. I repeat, the spider was dead, but should we be worried....or VERY worried??!!?

05-16-2006, 09:17 AM	#5
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 23,104	Oh how scary! I would get him to the vet! __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

05-16-2006, 09:20 AM	#6
sneri13 Luv My Spoiled Babies Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,065	I would go right to the vet. Please keep us posted. __________________ Susan Mac Mellie & Manny Prayers for Ren

05-16-2006, 01:16 PM	#8
sims822257 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 3,431	YIKES - I would take him to the vet myself than - that is very sad and scary! I would have to know he was going to be okay - not go by any ones advice but the doctors. I hope he is okay - keep us posted!!! __________________ Caren, mommy to Murphy and Mia Murphy WUVS his girlfriend Trixie

05-16-2006, 01:22 PM	#9
rrosenberry & Bailey & Bella Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,129	Are you sure it was a brown recluse? SCARY if it was. __________________ Rhonda, Bailey and Bella "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." ~Anatole France~

05-15-2006, 08:51 PM	#2
Lacy's Mom YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 2,931	Their toxin is what is called necrotoxin which is flesh eating. I would think that even dead he might have the poison in him. How recent was his demise? My dad got bit by one and almost lost his arm. If it just happened I would consider giving him some hydrogen peroxide to induce vomiting after researching for the proper dose or calling a vet or the poison control number ($35 charge). Or, you could be sneaky and call the human poison control and say your baby ate it, you'll probably get an answer before they find out your baby is a dog! Just kidding, I think.

05-15-2006, 08:53 PM	#3
Joysie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 101	well, sometime throughout the day. we left at 1, and he managed to get ahold of this plastic bowl sometime throughout the day. We just got home about a half an hour ago...

05-16-2006, 09:02 AM	#4
red rock blues No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mesquite, Nv Posts: 136	I would get him to the vet for some serious antibiotics, fast. If the venom is dealt with early enough there is less damage. Myself... I wouldn't chance it. Hope he's okay. Good luck, and let us know how he's doing.

05-16-2006, 01:11 PM	#7
Joysie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 101	well, it is another family members dog, and she chose NOT to take him to the vet due to advice that was given to her. The dog is acting just fine, no problems at all...I sure hope he stays that way...

05-16-2006, 06:34 PM	#10
SheilaCameron Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 39	Yeah I would at least call the vet. We were just talking about them with humans and my sister has a friend who was bit and didn't realize it for days. She got very very ill before they figured out what was going on days later. I do suspect, however, that the stomach acid gobbled up that spider and all the nasty stuff.

05-16-2006, 10:20 PM	#11
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,991	JOsie - Am I wrong in thinking that more than an entire day has gone by - and the dog has had no problems - plus you aren't positive that it was a brown recluse - plus the spider was dead? I'm not sure I'd be too worried. Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.

05-16-2006, 10:23 PM	#12
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,991	JOsie - Am I wrong in thinking that more than an entire day has gone by - and the dog has had no problems - plus you aren't positive that it was a brown recluse - plus the spider was dead? I'm not sure that eating one of these spiders would have the same effect as having it "inject" venom into the dog. And - even though some people have had severe reactions --most of the time reactions from brown recluse bites aren't serious. I'm not sure I'd be too worried...... Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.

05-17-2006, 05:31 AM	#13
heather_lathrop Gizmo and Gidget's Pet Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,323	hmm. This is very interesting. I have been bit by these spiders on several occasions. But don't have a clue about eating one. Honestly, the brown recluse spider is SO hard to kill. And people mistake other spiders for it all the time. Any news on how this little one is doing now? __________________ Heather-Moma to Gizmo and Gidget see us on Dogster:www.dogster.com/?268065 www.dogster.com/?268072 Heather's myspacehttp://www.myspace.com/heatherlathrop

05-17-2006, 11:14 AM	#15
Joysie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 101	update: Well, he is doing just fine! We are very thankful. We had been in touch with the vet and he said that in order for the spider to hurt the dog, the fangs would have had to penetrate his tissue at some point. Since it was dead for a few hours or so, the vet said this is highly unlikely. He also said that if there was something wrong, it would be very evident. I was worried that the dog may have internal problems from it at the very least, but I was relieved when the doctor said, "oh no, you will be able to tell". Well, I was relieved in a very scared way.... thanks to everyone who posted! (oh, and although we were not 100%, we were pretty sure that this spider WAS a brown recluse...while it was still in the plastic bowl(dead), we searched it online, and it was a match. Also, my neighbor is a zoologist, and he agreed. scary stuff...)