Coccidiosis back...uugghhh! - YorkieTalk.com Forums

gibber · 04-11-2006, 02:03 AM

Well, here we go again. My little guys is VERY sick again. My daughter (12 yars old) woke me up this morning telling me that the puppy was not well at all. He had bloody diarrhea in the night and threw up as soon as I got to him. He is VERY lethargic now and I am constantly checking his breathing. I am really concerned he won't make it. Just for everyone's future reference...coccidiosis takes about 13 days to show it's ugly head. This was important to me because it first showed up in this pup after I had him for only 4 days...which means that he had it when I got him. Thought it was cleared up after two days in puppy hospital (I.V. etc) and medication 2x day for the last week and 1/2. He was going strong...then yesterday I thought he was acting funny....overly lazy. For those of you that aren't sure what coccidiosis is go on to google and look it up. Very common in littler pups, like Yorkies. Wish us luck and hopefully we'll have good news later.

Jaspermom · 04-11-2006, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gibber

Well, here we go again. My little guys is VERY sick again. My daughter (12 yars old) woke me up this morning telling me that the puppy was not well at all. He had bloody diarrhea in the night and threw up as soon as I got to him. He is VERY lethargic now and I am constantly checking his breathing. I am really concerned he won't make it. Just for everyone's future reference...coccidiosis takes about 13 days to show it's ugly head. This was important to me because it first showed up in this pup after I had him for only 4 days...which means that he had it when I got him. Thought it was cleared up after two days in puppy hospital (I.V. etc) and medication 2x day for the last week and 1/2. He was going strong...then yesterday I thought he was acting funny....overly lazy. For those of you that aren't sure what coccidiosis is go on to google and look it up. Very common in littler pups, like Yorkies. Wish us luck and hopefully we'll have good news later.

Did you give him some Nutrical or even some karo syrup, honey, or anything sweet? He needs some sugar in him fast. I am sure you are doing all you can if you have already gone through this before. I wish you the best.

J_is_my_initial · 04-11-2006, 04:05 AM

Thoughts and prayers your way.

Oscar's Mom · 04-11-2006, 05:42 AM

That is some really bad stuff. Oscar had it...the vet said his was a level 2 out of 4. I knew what to look for and when I saw the mucous in his stool...we rushed to the vet and caught it in time. He told me that the tiny ones can go downhill really fast. I kept Frosted Cheerios for Oscar when he was that age and pumped them to him when I thought he was not eating enough. The vet put him on Albon for 10 days and it cleared right up with no recurrence. We will be thinking of your little guy today...hope he feels better soon!

livingdustmops · 04-11-2006, 06:17 AM

All I can say is thank God for Albon. It really does work wonders once they are on it. It has saved many a rescue and yes we have had it come back also. Luckily the vet gave me a large supply.

Gracy · 04-11-2006, 06:22 AM

Do hope all is well.....

It is so hard to see a little puppy sick.

hle_625 · 04-11-2006, 06:23 AM

I have never had any experience with this but I just want to let you know that I am thinking of you and your pup! Please keep us updated!

red98vett · 04-11-2006, 07:33 AM

Poor baby...Chanel came to us with that also and once it was cleared up she was fine but it sounds like you need to get medical attention asap....If it's bad enough you're checking breathing...please see the vet !!! I hope he feels better ...that's an awful illness but treatable

gibber · 04-11-2006, 11:33 AM

Okay...update. Get to vet at 8:00 (when they open) and vet takes him straight back. His body temp is 91....can you believe that? 91! His temp was normal here at the house before I took the 25 min ride to the vets office. Anyway, sugar WAS low...34...crazy huh? I gave him nutrical last night but I couldn't get him to swallow anything this morning. So, talked to vet at about 2:30 and she said he's alert and doing well. 50% dextrose in the jugular did wonders. Also, NO coccidia in the fecal exam. Vet is worried about liver shunts. Can anyone fill me in on the symptoms of shunts? I am totally amazed that this dog is alive at all. He had a seizure on me on the way to the vets this morning and I thought for sure he wouldn't make it. He's a real fighter, that's for sure. Please though, someone tell me about shunts. Thanks for all thoughts and prayers. Please keep my little girl in your prayers too...she is so torn up over this....and now I have to say to her that he MIGHT be better, but he may have shunts and may not make it. Thanks for any help.

Baby Blessing · 04-11-2006, 11:43 AM

We are so sorry to hear Gibber is ill again, we followed you with his illness before and was so thankful when he got through all that. I believe Gibber is a little trooper and with all the TLC from a loving family such as you all, I know he is going to fight like heck to beat this bout whatever is going on. Hang in there and keep positive thoughts, my daughter always said to me when I would think negative, " Mom, thats stinkin thinkin"
I will be keeping Gibber in my prayers and glad you got him into the vet right away, it sounds like you have a good vet there.
Prayers for Gibber, please do keep us posted. Thanks, Patti

yorkiegirl2 · 04-11-2006, 11:44 AM

Here is a great site on seizures, liver problems..etc.
I hope all goes well for your little pup. Keep us posted.

http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-...m/site_map.htm

Lacy's Mom · 04-11-2006, 01:04 PM

My Lacy had seizures with hypoglycemia even though she was on nutrical. She eventually outgrew both around 3 or 4 months old. I'll say a prayer for your little one. Keep us informed.

gibber · 04-11-2006, 01:16 PM

How did you determine that Lacy was hypo and did not have shunts? That's the question I have for the vet. She, the vet, is doing a bile acids test and will have the results tomorrow. I guess what I don't understand is why did the pup do so well for the two weeks after initial treatment (for coccidiosis) and then lapse? If a liver shunt is present then why and/or how did the puppy thrive for 2 weeks with absolutely NO symptoms? I will admit that it is odd he hasn't gained an ounce of weight in 2 weeks...stuck at 1.7lbs. He ate like a horse, a small one, but a horse nonetheless. Where did all that food go? His bowel movements were normal in number and consistency was good. I am flumoxed and I realize I am asking a lot of questions that can't be answered clinically...but anybody that has anything to add it would be greatly appreciated. Especially if your dog has/had shunts. Thanks in advance.

chelbuddy · 04-11-2006, 01:23 PM

How old is the puppy? And did the breeder say that he/she has had any problem with Liver Shunt in her litters before? It is unfortunately very common with Yorkies - especially when they are so small.
It does seem fairly common that Yorkies do well for a while after treatment and then relapse - it seems to be a common thread around here - or it could be that the stress of treatment causes other things.
I am hoping for the best for you and your little one!

Lacy's Mom · 04-11-2006, 01:44 PM

They did a glucose level test which showed her blood sugar to be very low. The vet never suspected liver shunt - maybe because she was gaining weight. I was giving her Gerber Baby Food meat. She was a fat little roly poly! Of course, if your baby does have liver shunt the high protein in the baby jar meat would not be good. I think the bile test should give you a pretty good idea if your baby has liver shunt. I'm like you I don't understand why the puppy would do so well for a couple of weeks, but the non-weight gain doesn't sound good. Keep us posted on the test results. Thanks, we'll be thinking of you.

04-11-2006, 02:03 AM	#1
gibber Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 19	Coccidiosis back...uugghhh! Well, here we go again. My little guys is VERY sick again. My daughter (12 yars old) woke me up this morning telling me that the puppy was not well at all. He had bloody diarrhea in the night and threw up as soon as I got to him. He is VERY lethargic now and I am constantly checking his breathing. I am really concerned he won't make it. Just for everyone's future reference...coccidiosis takes about 13 days to show it's ugly head. This was important to me because it first showed up in this pup after I had him for only 4 days...which means that he had it when I got him. Thought it was cleared up after two days in puppy hospital (I.V. etc) and medication 2x day for the last week and 1/2. He was going strong...then yesterday I thought he was acting funny....overly lazy. For those of you that aren't sure what coccidiosis is go on to google and look it up. Very common in littler pups, like Yorkies. Wish us luck and hopefully we'll have good news later.

04-11-2006, 04:05 AM	#3
J_is_my_initial YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Knoxville,Tennessee Posts: 1,363	Thoughts and prayers your way. __________________ Johnna, Mom to Gypsy and Puff. grandma to Gremlin and Robbie Proud Member of The Spoiled Rotten Yorkie Club

04-11-2006, 05:42 AM	#4
Oscar's Mom My Little Biker Dude Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,041	That is some really bad stuff. Oscar had it...the vet said his was a level 2 out of 4. I knew what to look for and when I saw the mucous in his stool...we rushed to the vet and caught it in time. He told me that the tiny ones can go downhill really fast. I kept Frosted Cheerios for Oscar when he was that age and pumped them to him when I thought he was not eating enough. The vet put him on Albon for 10 days and it cleared right up with no recurrence. We will be thinking of your little guy today...hope he feels better soon! __________________ ****************** Debbie G. - Oscar's Mom ****** PRAYERS FOR ALL THOSE KICKING CANCER'S BUTT!!! *****************************

04-11-2006, 06:17 AM	#5
livingdustmops Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,801	All I can say is thank God for Albon. It really does work wonders once they are on it. It has saved many a rescue and yes we have had it come back also. Luckily the vet gave me a large supply. __________________ Cindy & The Rescue Gang Why do you think they call them Yorkshire Terrors!

04-11-2006, 06:22 AM	#6
Gracy YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California Posts: 517	Do hope all is well..... It is so hard to see a little puppy sick. __________________ Gracy, Yorkie Lover S Lulu Lily Woody

04-11-2006, 06:23 AM	#7
hle_625 Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,637	I have never had any experience with this but I just want to let you know that I am thinking of you and your pup! Please keep us updated! __________________ Heather, Chloe Lynn and Daisy May PEEPADS BLOW OUT SALE!!!!!!! www.PEE-PADS.com/FreeShipping

04-11-2006, 07:33 AM	#8
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 29,994	Poor baby...Chanel came to us with that also and once it was cleared up she was fine but it sounds like you need to get medical attention asap....If it's bad enough you're checking breathing...please see the vet !!! I hope he feels better ...that's an awful illness but treatable __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri.. AKA Spy-Girls (photos here) Click for LABELS Click for CARDS * SAY NO to PET STORES ! www.designsbyvillette.com USING YOUR PHOTOS !

04-11-2006, 11:33 AM	#9
gibber Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 19	Okay...update. Get to vet at 8:00 (when they open) and vet takes him straight back. His body temp is 91....can you believe that? 91! His temp was normal here at the house before I took the 25 min ride to the vets office. Anyway, sugar WAS low...34...crazy huh? I gave him nutrical last night but I couldn't get him to swallow anything this morning. So, talked to vet at about 2:30 and she said he's alert and doing well. 50% dextrose in the jugular did wonders. Also, NO coccidia in the fecal exam. Vet is worried about liver shunts. Can anyone fill me in on the symptoms of shunts? I am totally amazed that this dog is alive at all. He had a seizure on me on the way to the vets this morning and I thought for sure he wouldn't make it. He's a real fighter, that's for sure. Please though, someone tell me about shunts. Thanks for all thoughts and prayers. Please keep my little girl in your prayers too...she is so torn up over this....and now I have to say to her that he MIGHT be better, but he may have shunts and may not make it. Thanks for any help.

04-11-2006, 11:43 AM	#10
Baby Blessing Our Blessings R Many Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,220	We are so sorry to hear Gibber is ill again, we followed you with his illness before and was so thankful when he got through all that. I believe Gibber is a little trooper and with all the TLC from a loving family such as you all, I know he is going to fight like heck to beat this bout whatever is going on. Hang in there and keep positive thoughts, my daughter always said to me when I would think negative, " Mom, thats stinkin thinkin" I will be keeping Gibber in my prayers and glad you got him into the vet right away, it sounds like you have a good vet there. Prayers for Gibber, please do keep us posted. Thanks, Patti

04-11-2006, 11:44 AM	#11
yorkiegirl2 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,704	Here is a great site on seizures, liver problems..etc. I hope all goes well for your little pup. Keep us posted. http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-...m/site_map.htm

04-11-2006, 01:04 PM	#12
Lacy's Mom YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 2,931	My Lacy had seizures with hypoglycemia even though she was on nutrical. She eventually outgrew both around 3 or 4 months old. I'll say a prayer for your little one. Keep us informed.

04-11-2006, 01:16 PM	#13
gibber Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 19	How did you determine that Lacy was hypo and did not have shunts? That's the question I have for the vet. She, the vet, is doing a bile acids test and will have the results tomorrow. I guess what I don't understand is why did the pup do so well for the two weeks after initial treatment (for coccidiosis) and then lapse? If a liver shunt is present then why and/or how did the puppy thrive for 2 weeks with absolutely NO symptoms? I will admit that it is odd he hasn't gained an ounce of weight in 2 weeks...stuck at 1.7lbs. He ate like a horse, a small one, but a horse nonetheless. Where did all that food go? His bowel movements were normal in number and consistency was good. I am flumoxed and I realize I am asking a lot of questions that can't be answered clinically...but anybody that has anything to add it would be greatly appreciated. Especially if your dog has/had shunts. Thanks in advance.

04-11-2006, 01:23 PM	#14
chelbuddy Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Emeryville, CA Posts: 260	How old is the puppy? And did the breeder say that he/she has had any problem with Liver Shunt in her litters before? It is unfortunately very common with Yorkies - especially when they are so small. It does seem fairly common that Yorkies do well for a while after treatment and then relapse - it seems to be a common thread around here - or it could be that the stress of treatment causes other things. I am hoping for the best for you and your little one!

04-11-2006, 01:44 PM	#15
Lacy's Mom YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 2,931	They did a glucose level test which showed her blood sugar to be very low. The vet never suspected liver shunt - maybe because she was gaining weight. I was giving her Gerber Baby Food meat. She was a fat little roly poly! Of course, if your baby does have liver shunt the high protein in the baby jar meat would not be good. I think the bile test should give you a pretty good idea if your baby has liver shunt. I'm like you I don't understand why the puppy would do so well for a couple of weeks, but the non-weight gain doesn't sound good. Keep us posted on the test results. Thanks, we'll be thinking of you.