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Muffie's Mom · 02-01-2006, 04:46 AM

This is sad to read about. Just follow your heart. We know that you'll figure out what the "right thing" to do is.

I'm sorry to hear that you both are going through this.

Mona K · 02-01-2006, 04:54 AM

Thanks again to everyone, and please be assured I will do everything in my power to make sure my baby is protected, even if it means tossing my boyfriend to the curb... You all are great, and Im so glad I joined this site.

Cudda84 · 02-01-2006, 06:29 AM

I know from my experiences this is not a good sign. I had a stepfather that abused my dogs and one day I came home and my terrier mixed had red eyes because he hit her in the face. Then I had roommates that abused my yorkie that only weighted 3.5 lbs. I didn't know about the roommate until he moved out. Someone who witnessed it told me about it. It is a very touchy subject for me and I would probably harm the person if it happened again. And it will not happen again to any of my boys. If someone is jealous of a furbaby that is a very bad sign.

mylittletigger · 02-01-2006, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mona K

He doesnt smoke, and if I would ever find out hes laid a hand on her, he's HISTORY!! Ive asked him to please just stay away from her, ignore her and dont even look at her because she acts so scared. I know that she is very jealous of him, but just starting to see he might be a little jealous of her too. This makes my heart sad... thought about getting one of those Nanny cams and putting in my house. But isnt that awful to have that kind of feeling about your boyfriend. We've even discussed marriage. Im in my 40's and consider myself a pretty good judge of character, but hate the way Im feeling about this. Thanks for your input.

Right now, I'd go with your gut feeling. Us, women were given those feelings for a reason. Follow them. Your dog WOULD NOT be acting like this if it were only due to yelling. IT'S definetly something more! Your dog is a pretty good judge of character. If they don't like someone it's because of something that you yourself cannot sense and they can. Dogs have a sixth sense and will let you know in their own way what is and is not good for you. Please I urge you to put up those cameras. Maybe you WILL find out he's not the person you thought he was. Do it for your dog!

jenstals · 02-01-2006, 06:49 AM

When my ex husband and I were first married, we got a puppy. He had no patience with him in the housetraining area and constantly yelled at him and even spanked him. I found him a new home because I could not stand the way it made my ex act when the puppy made a mistake. He was a puppy and couldnt help it! I should have kicked him to the curb then. I have often said since that time....I should have seen how he treated Scottie and it was very foretelling of how he treated me and our kids. He too was very good to his family and to others around us. My advice....GO WITH YOUR GUT!!!

mylittletigger · 02-01-2006, 06:58 AM

As someone who has experienced abuse themselves I will say this.....from the time I was 3 until 7 my brother and I were physically, mentally, and emotionally abused. I hardly saw my dad, my mom was the abuser. When my dad did come around he saved our lives. I threw up every night (almost) due to being thrown agianst the wall, shaken, scared for my life, knifes thrown at me, etc etc.... I still til this day remember everything that's ever happened to me.

What I'm pointing out is Even though I went through all of that I'm not afraid of my step-mom (now adopted mom after dad died). She's the greatest person I know. It took me time to get used to her and having sisters and an additional brother, but even before that I didn't have any fear of her.

I think you only experience that type of fear (coming from experience) when that person is around. This man is BAD news.

Plain and simple. I don't care how he treats his family, your family should come first in your life and Obviously your pup is afraid of him. He may treat his family and human members of yours with the up most respect, but when you're not around how does he treat your pet family???? Men often time put on shows around us women to keep us around, If we knew the truth we would leave them in a heart beat. If a man gets defensive over you questioning him about his involvement with the dog, chances are he's lying.
I don't think he's worth trusting around your pup, sorry just my opinion not trying to offend in any way.

I've had a hard life for my age(23) and have under gone a lot of traumatic experiences. I have to say that the only time I was ever really afraid was when that person would come back into the room or was around. My mom when she was abusive would act normal around daddy, but the minute he left we were told to "SHUT UP, GO TO YOUR BEDROOMS!" then the day would start with whatever she felt we deserved. My daddy was/is my hero, if it weren't for him I'd either not be alive right now, or a prostitute working on the street corner to help my mom pay bills. Do the right thing, get rid of him or find out NOW what's really going on. He's not going to come clean with you asking, you gotta be sneaky.

Ponyup · 02-01-2006, 07:05 AM

I have 1 question did you notice this change in her right after the yelling episode. If not then something else has happened.
Also if it is because he's a man and she's not used to men she would of acted hesitant from the beginning. She would not have been excited to see him and suddenly go to being wary of him unless something transpired.
The fact that he got very defensive and upset when you asked him makes me think he's lieing.
I would imagine the blood shot eyes are from being hit in the face or from her not sleeping because she's trying to protect you and your daughter.

I had a small dog I found on the road. After having her for only a short time it was obvious she had been abused by a big man and that's who tossed her out on the road. It took her nearly 5 years to warm up to my dad and if a big man approached me she would go apes**t. I'm sure she was just trying to protect me and herself from danger. These little dogs remember everything and they have great instincts. Listen to your sweet baby and your heart. I would also ask your daughter her thoughts since she's around, but not has emotionally invested as you are.

Mona K · 02-01-2006, 10:22 AM

Thanks to everyone for your responses, I feel at this point if I say anything else it will look as if Im trying to, as someone already said, "make excuses" and I dont want to do that. So Ive decided to invest in a nanny cam and find out for myself. This seems to be my only alternative. Thanks again.

Thorsmomma · 02-01-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mona K

Thanks to everyone for your responses, I feel at this point if I say anything else it will look as if Im trying to, as someone already said, "make excuses" and I dont want to do that. So Ive decided to invest in a nanny cam and find out for myself. This seems to be my only alternative. Thanks again.

A nanny cam is a great idea. I would like to say though (concerning your boyfriend) GO WITH YOUR GUT FEELING! If you just know in your hear that something doesn't seem right with this guy, then it probably isn't. Good luck with your little girl and getting to the bottom of this situation. I hope everything works out.

bchgirl · 02-01-2006, 11:01 AM

I can understand getting a nanny cam, but I'd be afraid by waiting and watching, if he is hurting her, it could result in a permanent or fatal injury. I'd feel really awful if something happened to my pup and I even had one inkling that someone was hurting him. Personally I'd take her to the vets. An exam may just indicate physical abuse. The blood shot eyes are a symptom of a blow or kick to the head.

Btw, my husband yells sternly (and spanked once) when Trace attempts to go in the street. Trace listens to him, but has never ever cowered from him. He runs back all wiggley happy. There's a reason she acts the way she does around your boyfriend and she's telling you loud and clear. I'd say her actions are telling you, he abuses her, and it's REPEATEDLY.

ilovelouie · 02-01-2006, 11:13 AM

I agree with just about everyone here. Not only is she showing all the signs of abuse by HIM but if you have even the slightest feeling of unease in your gut about this then this is your inner VOICE and you need to listen to it for your babies sake and your own! Please do NOT leave your baby alone with him for one second.....it could be that one second that makes saving her too late. Good luck hun and keep up posted please.

mylittletigger · 02-01-2006, 12:13 PM

I wish you the best! We're all looking forward to an update. Thanks.

Gabbi's Dad · 02-02-2006, 02:16 AM

A word from a Yorkie Dad.. There is no greater love than the love of a Yorkie.
Thank God and Greyhound he is gone....

bugaboosmom · 02-02-2006, 02:41 AM

Just and educated guess, I saw a little dog that came into the vets office I was working for some years back, that had bloodshot eyes.Her owner said she had caught the groomer where she had taken her dog,choking it.

SnowWa · 02-02-2006, 03:16 AM

Mona - I think anyone who has to invest in a nanny cam to see if their boyfriend is mistreating their dog - Well - this just isn't the type of relationship I would want to be in. This is not a good thing.

And - being on a forum like this with your concerns (discussing them, worrying about them, etc) also makes me think "I wouldn't want to be there."

I think what you are doing is okay - but you shouldn't need to do these things. I think most of us here without having to ask others - or spy - know intuitively whether or not our husbands or boyfriends would even be capable of doing such things to our pets.

I may not be expressing myself well - because I certainly am not criticizing you. You are wonderful, caring as much as you do, and wanting to find out as much as you can about what's going on.

I wish you the best of luck and am glad you're on YT. I hope your boyfriend isn't hurting or being mean to your little dog. Keep in touch!

Carol Jean

02-01-2006, 04:46 AM	#31
Muffie's Mom And now Missy's Mom, too! Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: FL Posts: 1,496	This is sad to read about. Just follow your heart. We know that you'll figure out what the "right thing" to do is. I'm sorry to hear that you both are going through this. __________________ Pat...Mom to Muffie & Missy! Our Photos are HERE Missy on Dogster Muffie on Dogster

02-01-2006, 06:49 AM	#35
jenstals YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 397	When my ex husband and I were first married, we got a puppy. He had no patience with him in the housetraining area and constantly yelled at him and even spanked him. I found him a new home because I could not stand the way it made my ex act when the puppy made a mistake. He was a puppy and couldnt help it! I should have kicked him to the curb then. I have often said since that time....I should have seen how he treated Scottie and it was very foretelling of how he treated me and our kids. He too was very good to his family and to others around us. My advice....GO WITH YOUR GUT!!! __________________ Jen Deb and Maya

02-01-2006, 06:58 AM	#36
mylittletigger YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,216	As someone who has experienced abuse themselves I will say this.....from the time I was 3 until 7 my brother and I were physically, mentally, and emotionally abused. I hardly saw my dad, my mom was the abuser. When my dad did come around he saved our lives. I threw up every night (almost) due to being thrown agianst the wall, shaken, scared for my life, knifes thrown at me, etc etc.... I still til this day remember everything that's ever happened to me. What I'm pointing out is Even though I went through all of that I'm not afraid of my step-mom (now adopted mom after dad died). She's the greatest person I know. It took me time to get used to her and having sisters and an additional brother, but even before that I didn't have any fear of her. I think you only experience that type of fear (coming from experience) when that person is around. This man is BAD news. Plain and simple. I don't care how he treats his family, your family should come first in your life and Obviously your pup is afraid of him. He may treat his family and human members of yours with the up most respect, but when you're not around how does he treat your pet family???? Men often time put on shows around us women to keep us around, If we knew the truth we would leave them in a heart beat. If a man gets defensive over you questioning him about his involvement with the dog, chances are he's lying. I don't think he's worth trusting around your pup, sorry just my opinion not trying to offend in any way. I've had a hard life for my age(23) and have under gone a lot of traumatic experiences. I have to say that the only time I was ever really afraid was when that person would come back into the room or was around. My mom when she was abusive would act normal around daddy, but the minute he left we were told to "SHUT UP, GO TO YOUR BEDROOMS!" then the day would start with whatever she felt we deserved. My daddy was/is my hero, if it weren't for him I'd either not be alive right now, or a prostitute working on the street corner to help my mom pay bills. Do the right thing, get rid of him or find out NOW what's really going on. He's not going to come clean with you asking, you gotta be sneaky. __________________ Tigger's dogster http://www.dogster.com/?257308 Bear's dogster: www.dogster.com/?368626. Krystal, John, Tigger and Baby Bear.

02-01-2006, 07:05 AM	#37
Ponyup YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 1,237	I have 1 question did you notice this change in her right after the yelling episode. If not then something else has happened. Also if it is because he's a man and she's not used to men she would of acted hesitant from the beginning. She would not have been excited to see him and suddenly go to being wary of him unless something transpired. The fact that he got very defensive and upset when you asked him makes me think he's lieing. I would imagine the blood shot eyes are from being hit in the face or from her not sleeping because she's trying to protect you and your daughter. I had a small dog I found on the road. After having her for only a short time it was obvious she had been abused by a big man and that's who tossed her out on the road. It took her nearly 5 years to warm up to my dad and if a big man approached me she would go apes**t. I'm sure she was just trying to protect me and herself from danger. These little dogs remember everything and they have great instincts. Listen to your sweet baby and your heart. I would also ask your daughter her thoughts since she's around, but not has emotionally invested as you are. __________________ Ponyup Mom to LOGAN

02-01-2006, 11:01 AM	#40
bchgirl Donating YT 9000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: at da beach Posts: 10,277	I can understand getting a nanny cam, but I'd be afraid by waiting and watching, if he is hurting her, it could result in a permanent or fatal injury. I'd feel really awful if something happened to my pup and I even had one inkling that someone was hurting him. Personally I'd take her to the vets. An exam may just indicate physical abuse. The blood shot eyes are a symptom of a blow or kick to the head. Btw, my husband yells sternly (and spanked once) when Trace attempts to go in the street. Trace listens to him, but has never ever cowered from him. He runs back all wiggley happy. There's a reason she acts the way she does around your boyfriend and she's telling you loud and clear. I'd say her actions are telling you, he abuses her, and it's REPEATEDLY. __________________ Deb, Ramsey, Reese, Reggie & Trace who watches over us Ramsey 's Bailey

02-01-2006, 04:54 AM	#32
Mona K Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 12	Thanks again to everyone, and please be assured I will do everything in my power to make sure my baby is protected, even if it means tossing my boyfriend to the curb... You all are great, and Im so glad I joined this site.

02-01-2006, 06:29 AM	#33
Cudda84 YT Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 355	I know from my experiences this is not a good sign. I had a stepfather that abused my dogs and one day I came home and my terrier mixed had red eyes because he hit her in the face. Then I had roommates that abused my yorkie that only weighted 3.5 lbs. I didn't know about the roommate until he moved out. Someone who witnessed it told me about it. It is a very touchy subject for me and I would probably harm the person if it happened again. And it will not happen again to any of my boys. If someone is jealous of a furbaby that is a very bad sign.

02-01-2006, 10:22 AM	#38
Mona K Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 12	Thanks to everyone for your responses, I feel at this point if I say anything else it will look as if Im trying to, as someone already said, "make excuses" and I dont want to do that. So Ive decided to invest in a nanny cam and find out for myself. This seems to be my only alternative. Thanks again.

02-01-2006, 11:13 AM	#41
ilovelouie YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: mass Posts: 1,754	I agree with just about everyone here. Not only is she showing all the signs of abuse by HIM but if you have even the slightest feeling of unease in your gut about this then this is your inner VOICE and you need to listen to it for your babies sake and your own! Please do NOT leave your baby alone with him for one second.....it could be that one second that makes saving her too late. Good luck hun and keep up posted please. __________________ Our Photo Album is HERE http://www.dogster.com/?185528 http://www.dogster.com/?246319

02-01-2006, 12:13 PM	#42
mylittletigger YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,216	I wish you the best! We're all looking forward to an update. Thanks. __________________ Tigger's dogster http://www.dogster.com/?257308 Bear's dogster: www.dogster.com/?368626. Krystal, John, Tigger and Baby Bear.

02-02-2006, 02:16 AM	#43
Gabbi's Dad Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Corpus Christi. Texas Posts: 24	A word from a Yorkie Dad.. There is no greater love than the love of a Yorkie. Thank God and Greyhound he is gone....

02-02-2006, 02:41 AM	#44
bugaboosmom Luv My Bug! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: california Posts: 1,573	Just and educated guess, I saw a little dog that came into the vets office I was working for some years back, that had bloodshot eyes.Her owner said she had caught the groomer where she had taken her dog,choking it.

02-02-2006, 03:16 AM	#45
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,991	Mona - I think anyone who has to invest in a nanny cam to see if their boyfriend is mistreating their dog - Well - this just isn't the type of relationship I would want to be in. This is not a good thing. And - being on a forum like this with your concerns (discussing them, worrying about them, etc) also makes me think "I wouldn't want to be there." I think what you are doing is okay - but you shouldn't need to do these things. I think most of us here without having to ask others - or spy - know intuitively whether or not our husbands or boyfriends would even be capable of doing such things to our pets. I may not be expressing myself well - because I certainly am not criticizing you. You are wonderful, caring as much as you do, and wanting to find out as much as you can about what's going on. I wish you the best of luck and am glad you're on YT. I hope your boyfriend isn't hurting or being mean to your little dog. Keep in touch! Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.