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Old 07-21-2015, 06:59 PM   #1
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Default Maybe Rat Poison. Saw vet. Still don't know.

Last night my husband and I returned home after about 4 hours and, while carrying in groceries, let our Yorkies Turner and Annabelle outside to relieve themselves.

They seemed fine, jumping up and down, glad to see us. We didn't watch them carefully but they were only in the front yard for what seemed just long enough to empty their bladders and then followed us into the house, eager for a treat.

We gave them each one "Breath-less Brushless Toothpaste," which they've had several times before with no problem. They're black on the outside with white centers (the color's important here).

About half an hour or so later, we came up large piles of vomit. Every time we'd get a couple of them cleaned up, we'd find more fresh piles. We were so busy cleaning up vomit for the next couple of hours that we never could figure out which one was, or if both of them were, vomiting. And we couldn't figure out what those blueish green pieces in the vomit were. At first tiny pieces, then pea-sized pieces and tube-shaped pieces, and finally what looked like half of a formed oval disk, an inch or so wide, in that same blue-green (they'd been confined to the bedroom with nothing like that around).

We were concerned about them getting dehydrated so we decided to take them both to the emergency vet. Then suddenly it dawned on me . . . That color. Rat poison. Not sure, I did a quick image search online and the color match looked unmistakeable to me.

We rushed to the vet at 1 a.m. and two other emergencies were ahead of us, including a surgery. More than two hours later, the vet got to us, but by that time the blue-green pieces in the vomit sample we had brought were no longer blue-green but a brownish green. She said she wasn't certain it was rat bait.

She gave them something for nausea, some subcutaneous fluids and some Vitamin K, and prescribed a bland diet.

They have been lethargic all day. Neither will drink water. They ate a little scrambled egg and rice this morning. This evening Turner had a good portion of rice and chicken broth, but Annabelle would only drink broth. So I've been consulting Dr. Google all day and it seems that dogs don't usually vomit rat poison but have to be induced to vomit. Does anybody here have any explanations or thoughts or experience with this?
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Omg that is terribly scary. I hope and pray it wasn't poison. If they aren't any better I personally would return to the vet. I always tend to be on the play it safe side. I pray your babies get better. Please keep us updated.
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Thank you. It was so kind of you to reply, and thank you for the prayer. They both just ate some rice and scrambled egg. I will definitely call their vet in the morning, but the fact that they both seemed hungry seems like a good sign. They didn't eat as much as usual but at least they're showing interest. Yay!
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A friend of mine who lived on a farm/ranch back east had the family dog get into rat poison in their barn. They called the local vet. He was miles away and couldn't get to them. His instructions were....get as much table salt into the dog as possible which will make him vomit. Poor dog vomited all day but it saved his life.
I don't know if the vets today would recommend this.
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I hope and pray your babies are ok. Please let us know as soon as you hear anything.
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Do you have any candy/gum in your home that contains xylitol ? if yes please take it and your babies back to the vet ASAP.I mean not in the A.M. NOW !
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A friend of mine who lived on a farm/ranch back east had the family dog get into rat poison in their barn. They called the local vet. He was miles away and couldn't get to them. His instructions were....get as much table salt into the dog as possible which will make him vomit. Poor dog vomited all day but it saved his life.
I don't know if the vets today would recommend this.
I read online that you should give them a few teaspoons of hydrogen peroxide to induce vomiting and afterwards, activated charcoal to reduce absorption. This is all if you can't get to a vet right away. I think the window is just a couple of hours to induce vomiting. After a certain time it's harmful.

The vet will also give them Vitamin K1, which is stronger than the Vitamin K you get at the pharmacy, and is also the antidote to the anticoagulant properties of most types of rat poison. But there are different kinds of ingredients in some rodent poisons, so if you know what the pet consumed, bring the box/ingredients list to the vet.

I guess we were lucky our dogs (or dog) vomited. The good news, hopefully, is they want to play now.
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Do you have any candy/gum in your home that contains xylitol ? if yes please take it and your babies back to the vet ASAP.I mean not in the A.M. NOW !
No, we don't, but thanks for the heads up. So many things are toxic to dogs. Actually xylitol isn't all that good for humans either.
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Thank you. I will.
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I hope your babies are doing better. . I would have them test the other treats. If two of them have white centers maybe some more have them
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How are they today? How scary!

What about ant bait also?

I so hope they are feeling better...thinking of you all!
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Thank you. It was so kind of you to reply, and thank you for the prayer. They both just ate some rice and scrambled egg. I will definitely call their vet in the morning, but the fact that they both seemed hungry seems like a good sign. They didn't eat as much as usual but at least they're showing interest. Yay!
Good. Hope they are better today. Please update when you can!
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Today they seem back to normal. They want to play nonstop and are sitting here, ball and bone temporarily dropped, staring at me impatiently because I stopped to type this update.

We take them in to their regular vet next week, 48 hours after finishing the Vitamin K1 horse pills, to test their blood for the coagulant time. And then we see whether they need more time on the Vitamin K1.

Thank you all for responding. This is such a wonderful and caring group here at YorkieTalk. And, for the time being, they will not be receiving any of those treats. I may cut them up and look inside in the white part, but the piece of blue-green disk wouldn't have fit in these treats. Just want to keep on the safe side.
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Today they seem back to normal. They want to play nonstop and are sitting here, ball and bone temporarily dropped, staring at me impatiently because I stopped to type this update.

We take them in to their regular vet next week, 48 hours after finishing the Vitamin K1 horse pills, to test their blood for the coagulant time. And then we see whether they need more time on the Vitamin K1.

Thank you all for responding. This is such a wonderful and caring group here at YorkieTalk. And, for the time being, they will not be receiving any of those treats. I may cut them up and look inside in the white part, but the piece of blue-green disk wouldn't have fit in these treats. Just want to keep on the safe side.

So glad they are doing well now! Prayers answered!
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So glad they are doing well now! Prayers answered!
Thank you. Yes, they're still going strong. Annabelle has her head, toy in mouth, resting on my arm making it difficult for me to type, and Turner's behind me, dropping his wet, slobbery toy over my shoulder. Good stuff.
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