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03-13-2015, 02:07 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker | Pancreatitis???? My Twinkle was just not herself, she was a little warm, not to crazy about eating but would eat well from my hand, seemed restless all the time, startled easy, hiding and her energy level didn't seem the same. I took her to the vet Wednesday and she said it was Pancreatitis(no labs) and sent us home with an antibiotic and Pepcid, it has been two days and she is still not herself, last night she did run and play with her sister periodically but tires easy so I keep her in her Xpen. I notice she been laying on her side but does lay on her stomach but looks very depressed, I am wondering if I need to give antibiotics more time?? she eats, pees and poops fine, no vomiting and kind of lethargic even on day two of meds? |
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03-13-2015, 02:28 PM | #2 |
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| Pancreatitis? So sorry to hear your poor baby is not feeling well. Usually the diagnosis includes blood testing as well as an exam and symptom check. I know that the cPL test can assist in the diagnosis and wonder why the vet did not do an office Snap cPL test at least? When my dog had a mild Pancreatitis attack he had the office Snap test plus a CBC and urinalysis. Other diseases could also cause similar symptoms? But I guess your vet must have been confident of the diagnosis as he was treating it. Usually a high fat diet can trigger an attack and part of the treatment is a Prescription Low Fat diet. If she is not feeling better I would call the vet and get her in for another visit and perhaps get tests. Hoping that she gets well soon. Please let us know how she is doing. |
03-13-2015, 02:43 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker | Thank you, I did call her vet and she said because she is eating, drinking and pooping it's OK to monitor her over the weekend, keep her in her x pen and we made an apt for Monday AM, she is not warm since starting antibiotics but my assumption is that she is in some sort of pain. I am a worrier and hoping she feels better tomorrow so I can. |
03-13-2015, 02:54 PM | #4 |
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| P Hello. Thank you for the update. I am glad that you called the vet as it is always safer to do so if you are concerned. If she does have P it is probably mild, as I think that this disease usually has vomiting / diarrhea symptoms that your girl does not. It might be a good idea, if you are not doing so already, to put her on a bland rice and boiled chicken breast diet. This would help any GI issue she has. It is worrying when our babies are sick, but you are doing the best for her and I hope she is soon well and back to her old self. |
03-13-2015, 03:16 PM | #5 |
Yorkie Yakker | Thanks, I'm hoping it is mild, it's so hard to know when they can't tell us. I did forget to mention, I'm giving her tiny amount of brown rice and chicken breast throughout the day, for about a week now. I was just hoping for faster results once she started antibiotics, I'll continue to monitor, thanks for your input, I feel a lot better about her vets advice. |
03-13-2015, 08:57 PM | #6 |
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| My little guy had severe P. Could not have any people food at all. The main symptom tht he always had was praying dog...he would bend down on his front knees and stretch. Sometimes that was the only symptom. Hope your little one feels better soon. |
03-14-2015, 03:35 AM | #7 |
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| I would suggest a second opinion. It could be a number of things and the fact that she didn't do bloodwork even to confirm anything is odd. Pancreatitis is very painful but it also requires a specific low fat diet and no human food. My dog was acting strange a few days ago, not wanting to walk. I had to carry him to his food bowl and he would eat and then I had to carry him back to bed. I took him in to the vet and her first assumption was pancreatitis but she did a full panel of bloodwork from organ functions to bacterial infections. She gave him a 48 hr antibiotic/steroid combo shot that covered a few things just while we waited for a day or 2 for the results. The only symptoms he was showing besides limping and not wanting to walk was abdominal pain. Anyway his pancreas levels were slightly elevated not pancreatitis status and he tested positive for lymes and another tick bite illness. Poor guy is hardly ever outside that I would never have thought it was lymes. So I wouldn't settle for what you vet is assuming u less they are doing the proper testing. Which is bloodwork. |
03-14-2015, 07:58 AM | #8 |
Yorkie Yakker | Thank you, she's still not much better today, she is still eats once I hand feed her, no vomiting or fever and pee and poop is fine but I can tell she is in pain, she seems weak and uncomfortable, so I will get a seek a opinion, timing is horrible, lost my job of 10 years months ago, we don't have money but I have to get her better.. |
03-14-2015, 08:28 AM | #9 |
YT Addict Join Date: May 2014 Location: Fishkill, ny, USA
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| I know it's tough when funds are low esp bc they aren't testing for just one specific thing....but if it's caught in time you will end up spending less than having to treat something that is set in...ask around and get opinions from neighbors etc or friends with pets if they know a reasonably priced vet in your area. I was fortunate to find an excellent vet that charges hundred less that other competitors. His office is a little outdated and they still hand write all the records and keep them in a filing cabinet... But he has a good following and he has a good group of vets working with him...I ended up spending $485 with all the testing and the first shot and then a months supply of the antibiotic and an anti inflammatory for the pain. So not bad. I'm sure it would have cost double at the new high tech place down the road! |
03-14-2015, 08:36 AM | #10 |
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| Sick baby So sorry she is still not feeling well and in pain. I agree that if your existing vet does not look into this further and take blood tests etcetera, I would go to another vet. It could be P as the symptoms seem variable, but it could also be something else that needs specific treatment. She may need pain and/ or anti nausea meds. I am so sorry that you lost your job ...... and vet care is expensive, but if the issue is not speedily and accurately addressed it could be very bad for the dog and more expensive for you. I hope that you can get the funds together somehow to diagnose and treat your dog. Perhaps the vet could accept time payments or you could get Care Credit? Hoping something can be worked out and that your baby gets well soon. Just saw the above post, I was writing this at that time. Sorry for any duplications! Last edited by dottiesyrky; 03-14-2015 at 08:38 AM. |
03-16-2015, 03:47 AM | #11 |
Yorkie Yakker | Thanks every one but I can't get credit without job. Because I love Twinkle, I took money from rent for her last appointment, now were looking at eviction with nowhere to go.....I thought things were looking up for Twinkle yesterday she wanted to play fetch(I didn't let her as I am trying to reserve her energy) and her tail was wagging all over the place, then last night she has just stopped eating and drinking and her stomach now makes digestive noises, no gagging or vomit so far nothing. I have continued her bland diet but I was never instructed to stop food and water for 24 hours as I have read online, but she was in better condition our first vet appointment, we even walked home and she was absolutely delighted the entire walk. We have an apt to see the vet and have labs at 10:00 this morning but are there anything suggestions as to what I can do for her until her appt?? Sugar water etc?? It's 4:30 AM where I am so we have a few hours left, she still wants to walk around but I am not letting her, any suggestions at all would be greatly appreciated. side bar: I've made several attempts to upload recent pictures but they all fail, anyone have suggestions on uploading photos on this site? |
03-16-2015, 04:49 AM | #12 |
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| I had a yorkie that suffered from chronic pancreatitis. Best treatment for him was always a 12-24 hour fast starting out, and then very slowly restarting a bland and non/low fat food (either the rx food from the vet or a very mushy and over-boiled rice), no more than a teaspoon or so at a time, every hour or two for the first couple of days. It can take weeks before the pancreas is completely back to normal and your dog is ready to eat regular meals. Relapses are common. We all want to see our little furbabies eating again, but its important not to rush it as too much or the wrong type of food too soon can quickly cause a relapse. My vet rarely treated the pancreatitis flares with antibiotics unless she had concerns about a secondary infection, but pain meds and fluids were an important part of the treatment. The SPEC cpl test (not the snap test but the one sent to IDEXX) is a fairly reliable diagnostic (and probably the cheapest vs an ultrasound) and your vet can get the results online in 12-24 hours. It will also give you a number for the pancreatitic enzyme (rather than just a negative/positive) so you'll have a baseline to judge how she's progressing. I would not trust a diagnosis of pancreatitis based only on a physical exam. Your pup at least needs blood work so that you'll have a better idea of what you're dealing with. Hopefully its just an upset tummy and not pancreatitis, but if the results do come back positive at least you know what you're dealing with and how to treat it. Sending good thoughts. Diana |
03-16-2015, 05:25 AM | #13 |
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| P Hello. I am so sorry your baby is feeling bad today and won't eat. You must be very worried and stressed and I do so feel for you. If you have any Karo syrup or I guess at worst sugar solution, it might give her a little energy. If you could get her to lick water or food from your finger? Just keep her quiet and comfortable and pray the vet can help her at ten am. I hope the vet will have compassion for your dire financial situation and delay payment until things are better. Aren't there any social services in your area that can help you out in your situation? I hope eviction will not happen for a rent miss!! As for the Snap cPL test, I just thought it was a quick and inexpensive vet office test as a first indication of P. Followed up by the full P and other tests, that will be quantitative. But it appears that funding is very difficult at this time and perhaps that is why the vet did not test or US etc? Wishing I could do something to help you, but soon you will see the vet and I am sure your baby will be better diagnosed and treated. Thinking of you and praying for some kind of intervention that will help you out of this bad situation with your finances. Hugs, Dot |
03-16-2015, 05:22 PM | #14 |
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| Twinkie I am really concerned about your girl and you. How did the vet visit today go and how are Twink and you doing? Hope you were able to get her help to feel better. |
03-25-2015, 03:12 AM | #15 |
Yorkie Yakker | Hello, so sorry for the long delay. It has been up and down, but I am happy to say Twinkle is back to herself , eating, drinking, running and playing tag with her sister Callie! Thank you all so much for your help and concern, it really helped a great deal. We did find she has a grade 4 Luxating Patella that may be causing discomfort. Her Vet says we will keep an eye on it and hopefully she won't need surgery. Any suggestions on vitamins etc, I can give her to help with Luxating Patella? I have a hip and joint vitamin I give her but wondering is there something else I can do? |
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