Peek A Boo is in the Early Stages of Renal Failure - YorkieTalk.com Forums

kjc · 04-01-2013, 07:39 PM

Still in a bit of shock, I know it could have been worse news. Vet recommends diet change to Hill's Prescription K/D. Is there anything better like home cooking, or supplements I could do for him? Any advice would be appreciated...TIA.

ladyjane · 04-01-2013, 07:44 PM

The only way I would do home cooking or any type of supplements is on the advice of a vet nutritionist.

I have had pups live long lives with renal failure if caught early like his. They were put on RX foods and did fantastic. My Sassy many years ago was on K/D for a while...but then switched to Purina NF and she liked that better. She lived for a long time...her estimated age was 17 when she passed. I believe she was in renal failure for about 9 years .. not sure exactly but it was a long time. Cody came to me at the age of 8 in renal failure...he lived until just before he turned 13. He was on Purina NF until the last 6 - 8 months when he started having pancreatic issues so I did a consult with Dr. Bauer from Texas A&M and I home cooked until he passed.

So sorry he has this, but it many times can be managed for long periods.

107barney · 04-01-2013, 08:04 PM

I agree with linda that if you want to home cook, a vet nutritionist consult is the way to go to make sure the diet is really accurate for Peek. Of course I recommend Dr Remillard, and a consult w/ diet is $250 with her. She actually did a lot of kidney research while at Angell. Her website is PetDiets - VNC putting pets' health first!

The other alternative is to go to www.balanceit.com and use the free recipe generator and select kidney disease. Once your vet approves the diet you can see it and purchase the Balance It - K product which is the likely supplement (you can't buy it w/o vet approval). Also, Balance IT has a new formula called Balance It Canine-K rice blend -- it is a milled rice flake formula and all you do is add meat and cook it. Again your vet has to approve.

As for supplements, omega 3s in a therapeutic dose is said to help parts of the kidney regenerate. I use Nordic Naturals 1 capsule per day for my almost 8 lb. Of course you should check w/ your vet.

I'm sorry about Peek a Boo's diagnosis

ladyjane · 04-01-2013, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 107barney

I agree with linda that if you want to home cook, a vet nutritionist consult is the way to go to make sure the diet is really accurate for Peek. Of course I recommend Dr Remillard, and a consult w/ diet is $250 with her. She actually did a lot of kidney research while at Angell. Her website is PetDiets - VNC putting pets' health first!

The other alternative is to go to www.balanceit.com and use the free recipe generator and select kidney disease. Once your vet approves the diet you can see it and purchase the Balance It - K product which is the likely supplement (you can't buy it w/o vet approval). Also, Balance IT has a new formula called Balance It Canine-K rice blend -- it is a milled rice flake formula and all you do is add meat and cook it. Again your vet has to approve.

As for supplements, omega 3s in a therapeutic dose is said to help parts of the kidney regenerate. I use Nordic Naturals 1 capsule per day for my almost 8 lb. Of course you should check w/ your vet.

I'm sorry about Peek a Boo's diagnosis

As for the omega 3s .. the vet nutritionist did recommend it for Olivia who has PLN but I could not get her to eat it in anything. The food she is on has some, so she said she is ok.

capt_noonie · 04-01-2013, 08:21 PM

I'm sorry to hear.

Hope this can be managed just like Linda said.

Patti · 04-01-2013, 08:30 PM

I am so sorry. I will keep Peek a Boo in my prayers.

Lovetodream88 · 04-01-2013, 09:08 PM

No advise but wanted you to know I will be keeping Peek A Boo in my prayers.

Buster Brown · 04-01-2013, 09:14 PM

So sorry to hear about Peek A Boo. Sending prayers and best wishes.

jadabug · 04-02-2013, 02:23 AM

Kathy so sorry to read the news about Peek A Boo.. I can't advise on diet but can offer prayers.

Lil Sis · 04-02-2013, 02:50 AM

Hi Kathy. I am sorry and I understand how scared and hopeless this makes you feel. My Sam was just diagnosed with the same about 10 days ago. I was really loss and spent the first days crying because I misunderstood and thought he had protein loss also.

Anyway I received the same advice from Cathy and Linda. Good advice. My vet started him on hills k9 and I already was home cooking using a supplement from Balance-it so I got a recipe from the Vets at Balance it.

I also joined a yahoo group.. k9 kidney diet.. it was recommended by scoobersmom. I opened a new email account (free with gmail or ymail) to use for the group because you get a lot of emails. Many members believe in home cooking and supplements to help their dogs, of course don’t do anything without research and checking with your vet. I find the mod on the group very supportive and at the least you get a lot of understanding from people who love their pets and understand what you are feeling.

At this point Sam seams to be doing well. He eats the hills k9 and I am going to prepare the balance-it receips this week end and freeze daily servings for a months supply. The vet said to bring him back in 6 months.
I hope this helps you.. I think we are both lucky to have Linda and Cathy with their experences and knowledge to help us!!!

rubymoon2072 · 04-02-2013, 04:21 AM

very sorry for this prayers that suggested changes help improve the situation. prayers to peek a boo....and mommy too.

Maximo · 04-02-2013, 04:29 AM

Kathy, I am very sorry to hear Peek's diagnosis. Shinja, the same with Sam. Years ago, our Airedale lived for several years with declining renal function. She had excellent quality of life to age 19. Praying that your pups can be managed as well.

lovespandp · 04-02-2013, 07:40 AM

Keeping Peek A Boo in my prayers.

dottiesyrky · 04-02-2013, 07:49 AM

So sorry to hear of the diagnosis, but as it is in early stages it is very likely that it can be successfully managed as suggested in the above helpful posts. Thank God you and the vet caught it early so that it can be treated. Important to keep him well hydrated. Don't panic, he will do well I am sure. Thoughts and prayers.

Wylie's Mom · 04-02-2013, 07:52 AM

Oh Kath, I'm so sorry

to hear this. I will say though, my late cat was Dx w/ the same thing and she lived for like 4-5 more years...so there is a lot of hope.

You've already gotten great advice from Lj and 107b

.

Sending lotsa love and hugs.

04-01-2013, 07:39 PM	#1
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	Peek A Boo is in the Early Stages of Renal Failure Still in a bit of shock, I know it could have been worse news. Vet recommends diet change to Hill's Prescription K/D. Is there anything better like home cooking, or supplements I could do for him? Any advice would be appreciated...TIA. __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

04-01-2013, 07:44 PM	#2
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,450	The only way I would do home cooking or any type of supplements is on the advice of a vet nutritionist. I have had pups live long lives with renal failure if caught early like his. They were put on RX foods and did fantastic. My Sassy many years ago was on K/D for a while...but then switched to Purina NF and she liked that better. She lived for a long time...her estimated age was 17 when she passed. I believe she was in renal failure for about 9 years .. not sure exactly but it was a long time. Cody came to me at the age of 8 in renal failure...he lived until just before he turned 13. He was on Purina NF until the last 6 - 8 months when he started having pancreatic issues so I did a consult with Dr. Bauer from Texas A&M and I home cooked until he passed. So sorry he has this, but it many times can be managed for long periods. __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP

04-01-2013, 08:04 PM	#3
107barney T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England Posts: 9,816	I agree with linda that if you want to home cook, a vet nutritionist consult is the way to go to make sure the diet is really accurate for Peek. Of course I recommend Dr Remillard, and a consult w/ diet is $250 with her. She actually did a lot of kidney research while at Angell. Her website is PetDiets - VNC putting pets' health first! The other alternative is to go to www.balanceit.com and use the free recipe generator and select kidney disease. Once your vet approves the diet you can see it and purchase the Balance It - K product which is the likely supplement (you can't buy it w/o vet approval). Also, Balance IT has a new formula called Balance It Canine-K rice blend -- it is a milled rice flake formula and all you do is add meat and cook it. Again your vet has to approve. As for supplements, omega 3s in a therapeutic dose is said to help parts of the kidney regenerate. I use Nordic Naturals 1 capsule per day for my almost 8 lb. Of course you should check w/ your vet. I'm sorry about Peek a Boo's diagnosis __________________ T. Bumpkins & Co. Washable Doggie Pee Pads (Save 10% Enter YTSAVE10 at checkout) Cathy, Teddy, Winston and Baby Clyde...RIP angels Barney and Daisy

04-01-2013, 08:21 PM	#5
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	I'm sorry to hear. Hope this can be managed just like Linda said. __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

04-01-2013, 08:30 PM	#6
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	I am so sorry. I will keep Peek a Boo in my prayers. __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

04-01-2013, 09:08 PM	#7
Lovetodream88 Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md Posts: 23,247	No advise but wanted you to know I will be keeping Peek A Boo in my prayers. __________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart!

04-01-2013, 09:14 PM	#8
Buster Brown Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 5,491	So sorry to hear about Peek A Boo. Sending prayers and best wishes. __________________ CarolynBuster Brown "The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything."

04-02-2013, 02:23 AM	#9
jadabug Jada + Bogie = ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mayberry AKA smalltown usa Posts: 24,078	Kathy so sorry to read the news about Peek A Boo.. I can't advise on diet but can offer prayers. __________________ Michelle, Jada and Bogie

04-02-2013, 02:50 AM	#10
Lil Sis Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,008	Hi Kathy. I am sorry and I understand how scared and hopeless this makes you feel. My Sam was just diagnosed with the same about 10 days ago. I was really loss and spent the first days crying because I misunderstood and thought he had protein loss also. Anyway I received the same advice from Cathy and Linda. Good advice. My vet started him on hills k9 and I already was home cooking using a supplement from Balance-it so I got a recipe from the Vets at Balance it. I also joined a yahoo group.. k9 kidney diet.. it was recommended by scoobersmom. I opened a new email account (free with gmail or ymail) to use for the group because you get a lot of emails. Many members believe in home cooking and supplements to help their dogs, of course don’t do anything without research and checking with your vet. I find the mod on the group very supportive and at the least you get a lot of understanding from people who love their pets and understand what you are feeling. At this point Sam seams to be doing well. He eats the hills k9 and I am going to prepare the balance-it receips this week end and freeze daily servings for a months supply. The vet said to bring him back in 6 months. I hope this helps you.. I think we are both lucky to have Linda and Cathy with their experences and knowledge to help us!!! __________________ Shinja mom to Remy lil Sis to Bailey and Sammy

04-02-2013, 04:21 AM	#11
rubymoon2072 Cedric♥Lola♥Keylo Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gilford, NH, USA Posts: 9,209	very sorry for this prayers that suggested changes help improve the situation. prayers to peek a boo....and mommy too. __________________ Cedric N Lola N Keylo RIP Punkee Princess

04-02-2013, 04:29 AM	#12
Maximo ♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 25,041	Kathy, I am very sorry to hear Peek's diagnosis. Shinja, the same with Sam. Years ago, our Airedale lived for several years with declining renal function. She had excellent quality of life to age 19. Praying that your pups can be managed as well. __________________ Kristin, Max and Teddy

04-02-2013, 07:40 AM	#13
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	Keeping Peek A Boo in my prayers. __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."

04-02-2013, 07:49 AM	#14
dottiesyrky Donating YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SW USA Posts: 2,505	Renal So sorry to hear of the diagnosis, but as it is in early stages it is very likely that it can be successfully managed as suggested in the above helpful posts. Thank God you and the vet caught it early so that it can be treated. Important to keep him well hydrated. Don't panic, he will do well I am sure. Thoughts and prayers.

04-02-2013, 07:52 AM	#15
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Oh Kath, I'm so sorry to hear this. I will say though, my late cat was Dx w/ the same thing and she lived for like 4-5 more years...so there is a lot of hope. You've already gotten great advice from Lj and 107b . Sending lotsa love and hugs. __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°