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01-31-2013, 09:27 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canada
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| Yorkie Chorkie with probable liver shunt Toby is a 4 year old (11.5 lb) Chorkie who was until recently extremely healthy. He started chin rubbing, rear leg twitching, lip licking episodes and then would return to his normal happy self. We learned through bile acid blood work that he probably has a liver shunt. We are now managing this medically with lactulose, neomycin and low protein hepatic dry dog food. Has anyone had long term success with this illness by transitioning to a balanced, proven home made diet including the correct supplements? |
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01-31-2013, 01:26 PM | #2 |
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| I don't have any experience in this area but I wanted to bump your thread up for folks to see. Praying for your little one.
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01-31-2013, 01:47 PM | #3 |
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| Hi and welcome to YT. So sorry to hear about your baby's diagnosis. I know that I have read threads about people managing LS with diet and medications. If you use the search function on the upper bar and seach liver shunt you will find threads where members have discussed their Yorkies issues and how they manged their diet and care. Sending prayers and best wishes to you and Toby.
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01-31-2013, 01:56 PM | #4 |
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| I am no expert in this but I don't believe the odds are really good treating a liver shunt that way. The best odds I believe are with surgery. I saw one person do it and the dog ended up with multiple shunts and other medical issues. Very sad. I am sure others will contribute to this thread with their personal experiences.
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01-31-2013, 02:18 PM | #5 |
I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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| Hi and Welcome to YT! What type of food and water bowls does he eat and drink from?
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01-31-2013, 03:57 PM | #6 |
I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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| Sorry... I have to go soon... the symptoms your describe sound like a plastics toxicity (starts with chin rubbing) from a sensitivity to chemicals that leech out into the food and water from plastic food bowls. If these are liver toxic, it can give high liver enzyme bloodwork results, and will also give high Bile Acids results. A positive BAT does not always mean the dog has a Liver Shunt. If you can post his bloodwork and BAT results it would be helpful. To answer your question... there would be no difference whether you use a formulated manufactured diet or homecook... but if homecooking... I would get an approved diet from a nutritionist.
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01-31-2013, 04:44 PM | #7 |
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| Thanks This reply is for kjc....thanks funny you should say that cause our dog did eat out of plastic bowls but we have since given him stainless steel bowls. Do you know where I can find any more info about plastics toxisity? |
01-31-2013, 05:32 PM | #8 |
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| http://www.squidoo.com/safe-healthy-dog-bowls and this is concerning people, but if it isn't safe for me, it's not safe for my dogs... Step 5: Be Wise With Plastics | The 5 Easy Steps | Healthy Child Healthy World
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01-31-2013, 06:03 PM | #9 |
I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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| Also with any kind of liver problem, I'd get him on Denamarin... found at the vet's or online... it's a nutroceutical.... liver protectant plus.
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01-31-2013, 09:30 PM | #10 |
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| I obviously misread this ... so your pup is not definitively diagnosed with a shunt. Isn't the vet recommending other tests? I would definitely want a diagnosis rather than simply guessing the treatment for the unknown condition. Perhaps an internal med specialist might be good to see.
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02-01-2013, 03:36 AM | #12 |
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| Wow thanks! Very good to know! |
02-01-2013, 03:40 AM | #13 |
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| I am very new to this site? Can anyone tell me how to answer someone right within their message and not at the bottom of the page? |
02-01-2013, 03:57 AM | #14 |
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| Just click the "quote" button at the bottom (underneath) of their message.
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02-01-2013, 04:27 AM | #15 |
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