Worrying about heart failure... - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Kamilla · 01-25-2013, 06:03 AM

On tuesday I went to the vet, my little Billy (5 months) is having a little cough and got som running from his eyes. The caugh sounds like he has something stuck, so I figured out that i needed to take him to the vet. Having trachea and kennel cough in mind.. He has got the shots that a puppy needs. Kennel cough is among other dogs now,and here in Norway it is usual to have outburst of kennel cough in january/february. I cant tell if some of the dogs that he have met is sick. He also belive he's a vacuum cleaner, eating dust and everything small that could fit in his mouth

The vet find that hair was getting in his eyes, nothing serious. Just needed to have some eye drops to relief the sensitive eyes. So far so good. She listened to his heart, nothing unusual. She made him cough, and found that he was a bit irritated in his upper airway. Maybe a mild kennel cough or because he is a vacuum cleaner. I said i was afraid that it could be something wrong with his trachea so she took an xray. The trachea was fine, no collapse. But she was unsure if the heart was a bit bigger than it should be. So yesterday a second vet looked at the pictures and thought he also saw fluid in his lungs. When i got the call I was silenced, but now my head is full of worries for my little boy

Next thursday there's scheduled an ultrasound. I'm not shure I can wait untill then... My head is going to explode soon because of all my toughts and worries. So now i'm writing to you, just need to get some frustration out!!

So sorry about my spelling, hope you understand what I'm trying to tell. You see I'm from Norway

I'm hoping that someone has been thru the same thing, that someone could give me some advice. And that people care is also nice for me beeing in this situation. Feeling so scared...

Verbena · 01-25-2013, 07:42 AM

I am so sorry Billy is going through this. I do not have any experience with this but just wanted to give you some support. Good thoughts and blessings to you both. ((Hug))

Deb1 · 01-25-2013, 07:43 AM

I have no advice....I will pray for you and your little guy! It is so sad, scary and heart-rendering when our babies are ill. Praying for the best outcome! I hope you feel the love and prayers being sent all the way to Norway!

Yorkiemom1 · 01-25-2013, 07:47 AM

Bless your heart!!!! FIRST: Calm down! It is going to be OK....
You say your baby is only 5 months old...did you get him from a breeder that has a health contract...the very first thing you will need to do is contact your breeder and let her know there may be a problem. See what kind of support you can expect to get from her. SECOND: You are doing exactly what needs to be done....you are a good mommie...you have gone for a second opinion...excellent! Get your second opinion and his supporting tests and conclusions. Do you have specialists there in Norway ....a cardiologist for dogs? THAT would be the icing on the cake, however your vet or the second opinion vet, may be knowledgable enough to get your baby on medications that will help his heart.... See if there is any way you can get the baby in before Thursday, simply for YOUR own peace of mind....if he has a cough that is attributed to fluid in his lungs, he may need to be on medication for that, sooner than later. Also, the "fluid" in his lungs could be perhaps something like a pneumonia....you would want to gewt that kind of issue diagnosed as quickly as possible...so maybe with these concerns you have, they will move your appointment forward. Stick close, keep us updated and we will help you get through this...and I think you did a FINE job with your spelling/English!!

Deb1 · 01-25-2013, 07:51 AM

Awesome advice!

rubymoon2072 · 01-25-2013, 07:54 AM

prayers for you and lil billy. i hope everything turns out ok. if it is kennel cough it can take mutiple doses to get rid of it. i had to give my keylo four antiboitic bottles before her kennel cough completely gone.

Kamilla · 01-25-2013, 10:00 AM

Yorkimom1:
Yes, I have contacted the breeder today, and i call her again on thursday, when I know more. Couldnt call her yesterday because I would have a total breakdown if I did. I barely manage to keep calm when i told my husband. Inside where no one can see I'm crying.

Cardiologi, no... The nearest one is for humans and its a 2 hours drive... One way! So no there isnt any.

I would like to clear out som misunderstanding, it was the first vet that asked the second vet for its opinion. The second vet is a vet that is well reputated in the area and has worked as a vet for many years. (The first one I dont know anything about) The second vet is going to perform the ultrasound.

Tnx for you prayers!

He's eating very little, any tips?

Kamilla · 01-25-2013, 02:09 PM

Oh... Forgot....
I will call the vet on monday morning to check if they could do the ultrasound earlyer. Its closed during the weekend.

Have spent hours today on google searching on heart failure and fluid in the lungs. I'm not going to do that again, no more. Got so confused and sad after reading all the stories about the beloved dogs who got sick and the lack of treatment for many heart conditions

Tnx again for the love and prayers you all are sending, all the way to Norway!

cummins · 01-25-2013, 03:20 PM

Please keep so update we are all very concern for our furbabies when they are having any kind of a problem

rubymoon2072 · 01-25-2013, 03:22 PM

yeah going online isnt always helpful. can you add something to his food that he likes.....boiled plain chicken...veggies he loves to entice him?? cut everything very small and mix with kibble. i cant remember the name of the stuff that you should have on hand.....nutrical...for low blood sugar...if hes not eating his needed meals a day..someone chime in please im a dunce after the last two days ive had.

Ldyrev1 · 01-25-2013, 03:27 PM

I'm so sorry that your Billy is having problems! I know how scary it can be. You have already gotten some really great advice so I won't try to add anything just want you to know I think you're brave to look for help here and I am praying for you and your precious Billy!

rubymoon2072 · 01-25-2013, 03:29 PM

sorry didnt mean to make light either i am sending many prayers.

Buster Brown · 01-25-2013, 03:32 PM

Sending hugs to you and prayers for Little Billy. It is so scary when there is something wrong with our babies but try not to worry too much and make yourself sick. You are being a great Mommy and doing the best that you can for Little Billy.

Buster Brown · 01-25-2013, 03:58 PM

I found these links but you may have all ready researched them
Diplomate List - ecvim-ca
Norwegian School of Veterinary Science | World Veterinary Association
Norwegian Small Animal Veterinary Association | Fecava
Veterinay Speciality Organizations and Specialist Colleges: Veterinary Associations, Societies, Academies in Africa, Asia, Europe, North America, Oceania, South America, International

gemy · 01-25-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamilla

On tuesday I went to the vet, my little Billy (5 months) is having a little cough and got som running from his eyes. The caugh sounds like he has something stuck, so I figured out that i needed to take him to the vet. Having trachea and kennel cough in mind.. He has got the shots that a puppy needs. Kennel cough is among other dogs now,and here in Norway it is usual to have outburst of kennel cough in january/february. I cant tell if some of the dogs that he have met is sick. He also belive he's a vacuum cleaner, eating dust and everything small that could fit in his mouth

The vet find that hair was getting in his eyes, nothing serious. Just needed to have some eye drops to relief the sensitive eyes. So far so good. She listened to his heart, nothing unusual. She made him cough, and found that he was a bit irritated in his upper airway. Maybe a mild kennel cough or because he is a vacuum cleaner. I said i was afraid that it could be something wrong with his trachea so she took an xray. The trachea was fine, no collapse. But she was unsure if the heart was a bit bigger than it should be. So yesterday a second vet looked at the pictures and thought he also saw fluid in his lungs. When i got the call I was silenced, but now my head is full of worries for my little boy

Next thursday there's scheduled an ultrasound. I'm not shure I can wait untill then... My head is going to explode soon because of all my toughts and worries. So now i'm writing to you, just need to get some frustration out!!

So sorry about my spelling, hope you understand what I'm trying to tell. You see I'm from Norway

I'm hoping that someone has been thru the same thing, that someone could give me some advice. And that people care is also nice for me beeing in this situation. Feeling so scared...

Do let us know how it goes.

I know little about Norway; but what I would suggest to a person who lives in Canada or the USA, is to get to your nearest Vet Hospital - prefera bly a teaching hospital.

And I care and many do here.

Alright sometimes with small breed dogs, the size of the heart can look a bit large on Xray. That is why it is best to have an expert look at them if you can.

Okay did this vet prescribe any treatment for fluid in the lungs?

Also I know Norway is cold. Is there a way you could limit his time outside?

Also with lung issues (if there are some) great humidity is good. 50% . Think about a bedroom humidifier.

And extra humidity should not hurt.

Keep us updated. and I so hope everything turns out well

01-25-2013, 06:03 AM	#1
Kamilla Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Northern Norway Posts: 86	Worrying about heart failure... On tuesday I went to the vet, my little Billy (5 months) is having a little cough and got som running from his eyes. The caugh sounds like he has something stuck, so I figured out that i needed to take him to the vet. Having trachea and kennel cough in mind.. He has got the shots that a puppy needs. Kennel cough is among other dogs now,and here in Norway it is usual to have outburst of kennel cough in january/february. I cant tell if some of the dogs that he have met is sick. He also belive he's a vacuum cleaner, eating dust and everything small that could fit in his mouth The vet find that hair was getting in his eyes, nothing serious. Just needed to have some eye drops to relief the sensitive eyes. So far so good. She listened to his heart, nothing unusual. She made him cough, and found that he was a bit irritated in his upper airway. Maybe a mild kennel cough or because he is a vacuum cleaner. I said i was afraid that it could be something wrong with his trachea so she took an xray. The trachea was fine, no collapse. But she was unsure if the heart was a bit bigger than it should be. So yesterday a second vet looked at the pictures and thought he also saw fluid in his lungs. When i got the call I was silenced, but now my head is full of worries for my little boy Next thursday there's scheduled an ultrasound. I'm not shure I can wait untill then... My head is going to explode soon because of all my toughts and worries. So now i'm writing to you, just need to get some frustration out!! So sorry about my spelling, hope you understand what I'm trying to tell. You see I'm from Norway I'm hoping that someone has been thru the same thing, that someone could give me some advice. And that people care is also nice for me beeing in this situation. Feeling so scared... __________________ Unknown people are just friends that you havent met

01-25-2013, 07:42 AM	#2
Verbena Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: with my flying monkeys Posts: 15,620 Blog Entries: 7	I am so sorry Billy is going through this. I do not have any experience with this but just wanted to give you some support. Good thoughts and blessings to you both. ((Hug)) __________________ Teri . . . Galen Jameson Frazier Seraphina Luna Rosencrantz, Saber Tooth Tiger, Pussy Willow Pandora Guildenstern

01-25-2013, 07:43 AM	#3
Deb1 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,983 Blog Entries: 3	I have no advice....I will pray for you and your little guy! It is so sad, scary and heart-rendering when our babies are ill. Praying for the best outcome! I hope you feel the love and prayers being sent all the way to Norway! __________________ Proud Mommy to Max, Teeka, Tatiana and forever in my heart Tameka! My sunshine doesn't come from the skies, it comes from my puppies eyes!

01-25-2013, 07:51 AM	#5
Deb1 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,983 Blog Entries: 3	Awesome advice! __________________ Proud Mommy to Max, Teeka, Tatiana and forever in my heart Tameka! My sunshine doesn't come from the skies, it comes from my puppies eyes!

01-25-2013, 07:54 AM	#6
rubymoon2072 Cedric♥Lola♥Keylo Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gilford, NH, USA Posts: 9,209	prayers for you and lil billy. i hope everything turns out ok. if it is kennel cough it can take mutiple doses to get rid of it. i had to give my keylo four antiboitic bottles before her kennel cough completely gone. __________________ Cedric N Lola N Keylo RIP Punkee Princess

01-25-2013, 07:47 AM	#4
Yorkiemom1 Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 9,462	Bless your heart!!!! FIRST: Calm down! It is going to be OK.... You say your baby is only 5 months old...did you get him from a breeder that has a health contract...the very first thing you will need to do is contact your breeder and let her know there may be a problem. See what kind of support you can expect to get from her. SECOND: You are doing exactly what needs to be done....you are a good mommie...you have gone for a second opinion...excellent! Get your second opinion and his supporting tests and conclusions. Do you have specialists there in Norway ....a cardiologist for dogs? THAT would be the icing on the cake, however your vet or the second opinion vet, may be knowledgable enough to get your baby on medications that will help his heart.... See if there is any way you can get the baby in before Thursday, simply for YOUR own peace of mind....if he has a cough that is attributed to fluid in his lungs, he may need to be on medication for that, sooner than later. Also, the "fluid" in his lungs could be perhaps something like a pneumonia....you would want to gewt that kind of issue diagnosed as quickly as possible...so maybe with these concerns you have, they will move your appointment forward. Stick close, keep us updated and we will help you get through this...and I think you did a FINE job with your spelling/English!!

01-25-2013, 10:00 AM	#7
Kamilla Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Northern Norway Posts: 86	Yorkimom1: Yes, I have contacted the breeder today, and i call her again on thursday, when I know more. Couldnt call her yesterday because I would have a total breakdown if I did. I barely manage to keep calm when i told my husband. Inside where no one can see I'm crying. Cardiologi, no... The nearest one is for humans and its a 2 hours drive... One way! So no there isnt any. I would like to clear out som misunderstanding, it was the first vet that asked the second vet for its opinion. The second vet is a vet that is well reputated in the area and has worked as a vet for many years. (The first one I dont know anything about) The second vet is going to perform the ultrasound. Tnx for you prayers! He's eating very little, any tips? __________________ Unknown people are just friends that you havent met

01-25-2013, 02:09 PM	#8
Kamilla Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Northern Norway Posts: 86	Oh... Forgot.... I will call the vet on monday morning to check if they could do the ultrasound earlyer. Its closed during the weekend. Have spent hours today on google searching on heart failure and fluid in the lungs. I'm not going to do that again, no more. Got so confused and sad after reading all the stories about the beloved dogs who got sick and the lack of treatment for many heart conditions Tnx again for the love and prayers you all are sending, all the way to Norway! __________________ Unknown people are just friends that you havent met

01-25-2013, 03:20 PM	#9
cummins YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Arcola Il Posts: 554 Blog Entries: 2	Please keep so update we are all very concern for our furbabies when they are having any kind of a problem

01-25-2013, 03:22 PM	#10
rubymoon2072 Cedric♥Lola♥Keylo Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gilford, NH, USA Posts: 9,209	yeah going online isnt always helpful. can you add something to his food that he likes.....boiled plain chicken...veggies he loves to entice him?? cut everything very small and mix with kibble. i cant remember the name of the stuff that you should have on hand.....nutrical...for low blood sugar...if hes not eating his needed meals a day..someone chime in please im a dunce after the last two days ive had. __________________ Cedric N Lola N Keylo RIP Punkee Princess

01-25-2013, 03:27 PM	#11
Ldyrev1 Princess Sophie's Choice Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Clinton, IL, DeWitt County Posts: 2,758	I'm so sorry that your Billy is having problems! I know how scary it can be. You have already gotten some really great advice so I won't try to add anything just want you to know I think you're brave to look for help here and I am praying for you and your precious Billy! __________________ Diane owned and loved by Hansel and Princess Sophie

01-25-2013, 03:29 PM	#12
rubymoon2072 Cedric♥Lola♥Keylo Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gilford, NH, USA Posts: 9,209	sorry didnt mean to make light either i am sending many prayers. __________________ Cedric N Lola N Keylo RIP Punkee Princess

01-25-2013, 03:32 PM	#13
Buster Brown Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 5,491	Sending hugs to you and prayers for Little Billy. It is so scary when there is something wrong with our babies but try not to worry too much and make yourself sick. You are being a great Mommy and doing the best that you can for Little Billy. __________________ CarolynBuster Brown "The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything."

01-25-2013, 03:58 PM	#14
Buster Brown Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 5,491	I found these links but you may have all ready researched them Diplomate List - ecvim-ca Norwegian School of Veterinary Science \| World Veterinary Association Norwegian Small Animal Veterinary Association \| Fecava Veterinay Speciality Organizations and Specialist Colleges: Veterinary Associations, Societies, Academies in Africa, Asia, Europe, North America, Oceania, South America, International __________________ CarolynBuster Brown "The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything."