please help really worried :(

[steph_bella]

i kno yorkies have that snorting thing when they get excited ect

but sometimes bella gets really excited she stops and its like she cant breathe with this snorting noise! it only lasts for a few seconds its looks like some sort of ashma attack or somthing, it happenes only now and again and shes fine after

dones anyone else know about this i read up about a collapsed tracia (i cant spell it) and i just got worried


thanx you

[jeane]

my vet told me that is a reverse sneeze/ my female jack russell does it every now and again

[LuvMyFurkidz]

I have Shih Tzu that do this as well. What has worked for me is placing a finger over their nostrils for just several seconds so they HAVE to breathe through their mouth & that normally stops it for them.

[gidget529]

This could also be a collapsing trachea. I would try to get this attack on video (? by your cell phone) and take it in for your vet to see and diagnose.

[steph_bella]

took bella to the vet today, te vet said it feels like soft muscle in her trachea which could relax from time to time and cause her to feel like there is somthing stuck in her throat, she just told us to keep an eye on her and if it gets any worse the are gonna do an xray, she said this is common in yorkies and small dogs and she should be fine

i feel much better about it bella is doing fine and has been treated with a new harness and a jumbone x

[gidget529]

Glad to hear you took her to the vet, and he/she is watching this. Bella is so lucky to have a mommy who takes such good care of her!

[chachi]

If she has trouble breathing I would get a second opinion and yes it sounds like collapsed trachea and that could be fatal. I dont want to scare you but it doesnt sound like the vet took it seriously enough to me. Heart problems can cause problems like that also

[chachi]

By the way yorkies not being able to breathe is not normal behavior and it concerns me your vet told you that

[steph_bella]

its only ever happened twice for about 10 seconds havnt seen her doing this anymore the vet had a very good feel of her throat and she told us to keep a diary of it any what i was doing woth her ect, bella is her normal happy self no bad breathing or anything so ill just keep an eye on her for now

[steph_bella]

she didnt say it was normal she said it was common in yorkies and little dogs and she said they can live with it and if need be have an operation to fix it

[gidget529]

Originally Posted by chachi

If she has trouble breathing I would get a second opinion and yes it sounds like collapsed trachea and that could be fatal. I dont want to scare you but it doesnt sound like the vet took it seriously enough to me. Heart problems can cause problems like that also

Maybe I misunderstood, but what she says the vet described is CT. It is when the membrane lying over the C-ring of the trachea collapses down, causing constriction of the airway. 01 Tracheal Collapse - VeterinaryPartner.com - a VIN company! My vet x-rays immediately for this; however, x-ray does not reliably diagnose. Fluoroscopy is the best diagnostic but is done at a University Hospital usually. My Cricket had CT. It did not progress until she got elderly. She then developed congestive heart failure, which can happen w CT dogs.

You're right, when my Cricket developed congestive heart failure, it did have a similar honk.

You should watch the gums if there is another episode. If the gums turn bluish, that is a medical emergency and you need immediate vet care. That means she is not getting enough oxygen due to the membrane collapse.

It was nice to see a poster care enough to take their dog to the vet, especially after all of the threads where ppl just blow off symptoms and ppl's advice to take to vet.

I agree, this should continue to be followed closely by your vet.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by gidget529

Maybe I misunderstood, but what she says the vet described is CT. It is when the membrane lying over the C-ring of the trachea collapses down, causing constriction of the airway. 01 Tracheal Collapse - VeterinaryPartner.com - a VIN company! My vet x-rays immediately for this; however, x-ray does not reliably diagnose. Fluoroscopy is the best diagnostic but is done at a University Hospital usually. My Cricket had CT. It did not progress until she got elderly. She then developed congestive heart failure, which can happen w CT dogs.

You're right, when my Cricket developed congestive heart failure, it did have a similar honk.

You should watch the gums if there is another episode. If the gums turn bluish, that is a medical emergency and you need immediate vet care. That means she is not getting enough oxygen due to the membrane collapse.

It was nice to see a poster care enough to take their dog to the vet, especially after all of the threads where ppl just blow off symptoms and ppl's advice to take to vet.

I agree, this should continue to be followed closely by your vet.

My concern was the OP saying the dog could not breathe and she didnt say it was just a couple of times so I assumed that was frequent. Now I know that if it is bad enough they will put stints in the trachea to open the airway so I was just concerned that it didnt seem vet was taking it too serious since he said it was normal for yorkies and its not normal for yorkies.

[gidget529]

Originally Posted by chachi

My concern was the OP saying the dog could not breathe and she didnt say it was just a couple of times so I assumed that was frequent. Now I know that if it is bad enough they will put stints in the trachea to open the airway so I was just concerned that it didnt seem vet was taking it too serious since he said it was normal for yorkies and its not normal for yorkies.

Yes, you're right, it's not normal. My vet does x-ray right away/doesn't wait.

[steph_bella]

bella is 1 year old and ive seen this happen 3 times in her life twice when on a walk when pulling on the lead (with a collar) and onve when i bought a ball too big for her she got all excited and she couldnt get her mouth round it propley and she started having a sort of ashma attack with loud honking it lasted a few seconds, so i immediatly booked an appointment and took her the vet felt for ages on her throat and stuff and then went on to say about soft muscle etc,

im a hypocondrac myself having (cbt) at the moment nd been banned from googleing symptoms about myself on google and now im starting with bella googling everything getting myself upset.

im gonna do what the vet said keep an eye so im gonna do that ive bought her a harness and stuff to stop hurting her neck, the vet also told me to watch her colour make sure shes not going blue etc.. like i said no more attacks and the vet said she will do an xray if it progresses so im going to try and not worry but thanx for everyones advice i do appreciate it

[BarbaraM]

My 3 year old once made a strange noise at his vet appt and I was told "reverse sneeze" It then happened intermittently, and I never worried.
It progressed. To a honk when in the car going to vet/groomer. But it would subside on its own and I never worried.
At a new vet appt - he is now 6 yo - it began. Louder. Fiercer. Vet said, "collapsing trachea, keep him calm" I still was not worried.
Went to a new groomer and he was frantic when I came to pick him up. It was extremely loud, I was concerned but not worried. I took him home and calmed him down and it relaxed after a few hours.
A new vet again, since the last one went back to horse chiro - and Ted was in such bad shape. The dr and I could barely hear each other. He went in back to have blood draw. Doc suggested soft palate resection. Scheduled for next for days. Xray should be repaired by then. I was allowed to leave with him.
At 430 am, he is still in bad shape. I scoop him up and take him to the ER an hour away. They take him immediately, sedate him and give him steroids and call a veterinary teaching hospital to get him into. I drive another two hours with him honking, gasping for air, really in bad shape. I arrive and they immediately put him in an oxygenated cage and me in a room to calm down. When they took him from me his tongue was hanging out (I have never seen him like this) and he looked like he was going into shock. I began crying uncontrollably. I find out the sedative began to work at this point and he just fell asleep. He spent the next 24 hours in this hospital. They called the next day and said the fluoroscopy shows his trachea is collapsed, a stent should be done. I said no. No stent. Meds.
I then left to go pick him up -- still honking -- covered in poo. He could barely walk. I sat in the back seat with him while my daughter drove the three hours home. Honking, and still having trouble breathing. This was October 27th.

I saw the films myself. I wish one of his previous vets had done SOMETHING to diagnose and give me meds to start him on BEFORE it became so critical. Maybe he would not have had to suffer as he did.

I cannot understand why his most recent vet allowed him to leave. She even joked that he needed a doggie valium. Yet, gave him nothing to ease his OBVIOUS breathing difficulty. It was HELL.

Now, life has changed for us. Our world revolves around him for now. We have no working door bell. Phone ringers are off. He will NOT leave this house unless sedated. I slept next to his cage that first night. Actually I napped here and there. Each day was a blessing.

He is doing very well, now. But oh, how I wish I could take the $1500 bill from the hospital and...never mind. I am trying to forgive that vet for what she allowed. For I didn't know the seriousness of CT, and I feel bad for that. BUT SHE DID and chose to do NOTHING for my pet.

Please don't wait like I did. Know for sure. Have some back up meds. Cover all the bases!! It does get worse over time. At least it did for Ted!!

Good luck and good health for your pup.