stages of pancreatitis?

[SophieKatesMom]

I apologize for posting my dang cyst post under your topic, I thought I was starting a new thread. I will see if it can be moved.

[Euro]

Don't apologize. I just don't know anything about yorkie cysts. I wish I could help.
I know in humans it's not serious. I hope that's true about dogs too. God Bless all Yorkies everywhere.

[Scoobstersmom]

Originally Posted by Euro

You are right. No food for pancreatitis attack , just water. Gradual small low fat meals for at least a week. Better 4 or 5 really small low fat meals like a spoon or two of over cooked mushy rice and overlooked skin free chicken breast. My baby had extreme chocolate poisoning that caused acute attack of pancreatitis is gradually getting back to Normal. I found even with humans do your own research before blindly listening to even vets. At least question them if it's completely apposed to your research. I'm so sorry for the loss of your baby.
Please know she's in heaven and will see you again. Look for signs, they are always with you. You just have to look. God Bless

Euro, that is very good advice. We've been battling our little guy with pancreatitis since June, and still haven't been able to get his levels completely back to normal, although he is much improved. No food or water for the first 24 hours (hydration by IV or sub q may be required), and then water or fluid only until 24 hours after the last bout of diarrhea or vomiting. Dogs can go a few days without food as long as they're well hydrated. Then our vet had us feed mushy, overcooked rice with a little chicken broth ran through the blender and by syringe. Just 5 ml every hour or two for the first day, 10 ml every hour or two the second day, and by the third day we were able to add in a little boiled and skinless chicken breast. You have to introduce food back very, very slowly. Our little guy is still having trouble handling any fat in his diet and even the RC gastro-intestinal low fat diet sets him back off. We are now feeding him small meals of rice or boiled potato, chicken breast and very well cooked carrots with a few vitamins and supplements. He has had a couple of little set backs, but is finally now pretty stable and his levels are steadily dropping. It takes quite a long time for the pancreas to completely settle down, and once a dog has had an acute attack, they are very susceptible to another, so that means low fat from that point on.

Diana and Scooby

[xFoxyx]

My Presley had his first pancreatic attack when he was 7. He is now 17. It is a manageable condition. He does have flare ups, but they are pretty rare. We are pretty good about sticking to his diet. He has had a few flare up since we had to switch food due to kidney disease, but it may be once or twice a year. And usually by day 2 he is back to normal. If he has a bad episode, such as bloody poopoo he goes to the vet. Frankly we think his getting fluids 3 times a week (to treat his kidneys) helps keep the attacks at bay. He stays well hydrated. My vet has always stressed to keep him in a quiet place where he is still - the exercise comment stunned me.... No food during his attack. Frankly, he wouldn't be interested in any kind of food during an episode anyway. We usually keep medication on hand if anything crops up.

His symptoms would range from bile vomiting with a stretchy mucous - could also have blood in it. Gurgling stomach and tender to the touch. Diarrhea - sometimes bloody. His very first episode he vomited so much blood I thought he was dying. We learned a very valuable lesson about feeding from the table.

He does get some plain, boiled chicken, green beans, peas to spice up the food we have him on for his kidney disease...otherwise he doesn't like it and he needs this food more than the gastrointestinal food. But it is very little and we have managed well for the past year not giving him too much. My vet is ok with this.

[Euro]

What do you feed your baby for his kidney disease?

[xFoxyx]

I feed Presley Purina NF. Its the only one he will eat. We've tried others. So far his levels are doing pretty well. He has been on it for almost a year and his levels have only slightly elevated. Plus he gets sub q fluids three times a week. That helps alot too.

[Euro]

Thank you so much for your response. My little girl is back on her raw diet and everything is back to Normal. Im with holding bone for a couple of weeks more. My Yorkie only does well on the raw diet. She never vomits or scratches and has lots of energy. I tried everything before starting raw 5 months ago . Even this week before I put her back on raw she was vomiting . I guess every dog is different. I am so glad you found something that works for your baby. Thnk you again.

[Elenitag]

My YORKIE just got back from the emergency room after eating a fatty oxtail. So upset. She now has acute pancreatitis and is home with me. I wanted to leave her at the emergency vet like they recommended but the cost was in the thousands. I don't have it. Can anyone give me advice... she has had it since eating the bone last night she ate this morning and threw up then acted lethargic with shakes. I knew something was wrong so I took her to vet. Thank God they did not see an obstruction. She has not eaten at all since am and drank very little water today. She hasn't really moved she is in so much pain. She just threw up a clear liquid that smelled seriously awful. I don't know what to do for her. She l miserable. The ER Vet said I could monitor her but I know I won't sleep due to her condition. Has anyone else gone through this the first time? Any advice? Thanks

[Scoobstersmom]

What treatment did your pup receive at the ER? Was she on an IV, or at least get sub q fluids? Hopefully she was also prescribed pain medication, as acute pancreatitis is very painful.

I would not worry about feeding her for now. Her pancreas needs to rest, and there is no point in feeding a vomiting dog. Continued vomiting causes more issues than not feeding and not vomiting. If she received fluids at the ER, she should be well hydrated for now. If not, and she can hold it down you might trying giving her just a couple of cc's of water by syringe every hour or so, only as long as she is able to hold it down.

By tomorrow morning if she is not still vomiting and hasn't for several hours, you can try feeding her a bit of over-boiled white potato or rice. Make a slurry with the water you boiled the potato in, to the consistency of a thick liquid. Try giving her just a teaspoon or two of the slurry to see if she can hold it down. If she hasn't vomited within an hour or two, you can try giving a little bit more but only tiny amounts at a time every hour or two for the next day or so. It can take weeks for a pup to get back to eating their regular diet about a serious bout of pancreatitis, and you will have to modify her diet to very low fat now that she has had pancreatitis.

It is very easy for a small dog to become dehydrated and that can be very dangerous. Especially if she did not receive fluids at the vet (and even if she did) watch for excessive vomiting or diarrhea, and head straight back to the ER if she shows signs of dehydration.

Dehydration in Dogs | petMD

[Euro]

Originally Posted by Elenitag

My YORKIE just got back from the emergency room after eating a fatty oxtail. So upset. She now has acute pancreatitis and is home with me. I wanted to leave her at the emergency vet like they recommended but the cost was in the thousands. I don't have it. Can anyone give me advice... she has had it since eating the bone last night she ate this morning and threw up then acted lethargic with shakes. I knew something was wrong so I took her to vet. Thank God they did not see an obstruction. She has not eaten at all since am and drank very little water today. She hasn't really moved she is in so much pain. She just threw up a clear liquid that smelled seriously awful. I don't know what to do for her. She l miserable. The ER Vet said I could monitor her but I know I won't sleep due to her condition. Has anyone else gone through this the first time? Any advice? Thanks

My baby has had a number of flare ups but I finally found a formular that works
without running to the vet. You need to get a syringe and unflavored pedialyte fill the syringe and squirt the pedialyte into your yorkies mouth every 15 minutes for the first hour. Then every 30 minutes. Usually you will see a visible difference in about 3 hours. The vet had prescribed a canned dog food that you have to buy at the vet for dogs with pancreatitis. Or you can buy eye round steak boil it so it's overcooked put it in a food processor ,process adding water until its slush. That is all I ever feed her now. The vet dog food worked also. Hope this helps

[Elenitag]

Thank you. At ER now and they want to keep her 48 hours. Now they are not sure it is Pancreatitis and want to do an ultrasound. Could be an obstruction. This is heart breaking. She is in so much pain. If it turns out to be pancreatitis I will definitely keep your thread at hand. Thanks again

[Euro]

Originally Posted by Elenitag

Thank you. At ER now and they want to keep her 48 hours. Now they are not sure it is Pancreatitis and want to do an ultrasound. Could be an obstruction. This is heart breaking. She is in so much pain. If it turns out to be pancreatitis I will definitely keep your thread at hand. Thanks again

We will be praying for you and your baby

[Elenitag]

Well because they did the ultrasound they found several other problems. She has moderate to severe pancreatitis, abnormal renal glands, Large mass on her mamory glands, possible cancer associated with that, possible cushions disease, and her kidney are starting to fail with an infection. OMG the pain she must have been in. I saw her today and she looks better then yesterday. Just awaiting outcome of food. If it stays down then her pancreatitis is calming down and we can address the next issue. This over whelming. She is 11yrs old so some of it comes with age and inherited. Let's see how much her Aspca pet insurance covers. I am up to $3200

[Elenitag]

Originally Posted by Euro

We will be praying for you and your baby

Thank you

[Scoobstersmom]

Elenitag,

Both Cushings and pancreatitis can cause elevated kidney numbers, so if you get the pancreatitis under control and treat the Cushings it is likely you'll see a drop in her kidney numbers. I'm sure you're overwhelmed and that seems like the least of your problems, but I wanted to pass it along. Good luck. Sending healing thoughts for your baby.

Diana