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08-05-2011, 11:06 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Australia
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| Hi im new -Yorkie has bladder stones:( Hi everyone, i will try and keep this as short as possible earlier this year my yorkie was blocked and couldnt pee his urethra was totally blocked so after many tests and visits to specialists etc they removed the stones blocking his pee then we did a bile acids test, which came back as pre 54 post 116 they then suspected MVD as he had none of the liver shunt signs before this incident we knew nothing for 18 months happy , healthy puppy, never noticed he was sick in any way. there was a large stone they saw so we operated and it was removed and they took a liver biopsy , well the result came back that he had a liver shunt, not MVD, even though when they were in there they said the liver looked normal and no shunt was visible, the stone was sent to Hills USA and tested as a urate stone,so this was in april since then we have had him on the Hills UD and allopurinol ,denamarin and lactulose and a few nights a week i will give him pasta with vegies and cottage cheese, this has been working fine , still no shunt signs etc hes not underdeveloped or anything else ive read about the shunt signs well yest we noticed him constantly trying to pee in the squat position- its not blocked he can pee but he must have the urge i was horrified this was happening again and so soon i took him to the vets today, he didnt really do anything he wasnt impressed i was feeding him anything but UD his impresion is UD for life and thats it so now we are going to play it by ear and see what happens, he mentioned a surgery they can do where they make the pee hole larger for the stones to fall out for dogs that get them frequently to be honest im in australia and no one is experienced with this ive done most of the reasearch myself online ok i have quite a few questions , sorry, just so much unanswered questions , so much info online im not sure what to do' ok first the Hills ud, ive read horrors about the ingredients im thinking to get him off it and onto a good quality low protein food ive looked into dalmatians who have the problem with urates and it seems to work for some, advice? i cant see how he can be on UD forver with no protein!! does anyone know a good quality food ? ive read about innova , we have that her is australia the allopurinol, the vet tells me its for life, i read online shunt dogs shouldnt have this , or for long periods, also that it causes xanthine stones, not sure what to do here should i continue this? should i still be giving him lactulose and denamarin if he has no neurological signs? can the denamarin be given long term? ive just ordered some ph strips so i can check his urine myself when they tested it was 6 has anyone had a dog with urate stones and what has worked for you? like i said earlier scooter has no shunt signs at all, so really im trying to avoid the stones any info would be greatly appreciated, its so confusing out there some sites say raw, some so ud, im confused!!! thank you so much for any adivice |
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08-06-2011, 05:07 PM | #2 |
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| Welcome to YT. I agree with you about the food. Wouldn't worry so much about ingredients as I would 10% protein for life. Have you gotten a second opinion? With urates, they may be able to be managed by having good control of the liver issue. Sometimes the hole does have ot be made larger. I'd start with another opinion.. He needs a specialist if haven't already seen one. If there is a shunt present and it isn't fixed, I wouldn't have high hopes for the bladder.
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08-06-2011, 05:47 PM | #3 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: United States
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| I've heard that Epsom salt can make bladder stones fall out. Every morning, before your dog has eaten anything, give her 1/2 a teaspoon for every 40 pounds. That means if your dog is less than 40 pounds, give her a fraction of a teaspoon to drink. This is advice my breeder told me. I hope your dog gets better! |
08-08-2011, 06:52 PM | #4 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Australia
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| thanks so much for the replies he did see a specialist , thats the problem, in Aus they dont seem to know about this problem in great depth i think i know more about it he already had surgery to remvoe stones and fix shunt but when they opened him they said they couldt see a shunt and that the liver looked a normal size, they took a biopsy and it came back as a shunt so he hasnt been fixed i dont want to put him under again if hes got no signs now you wouldnt know there was anything wrong with him the only problem that made us aware of anything was stones im trying to avoid them now |
08-09-2011, 01:56 AM | #5 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | Wel come to YT I'm sorry to hear your boy is suffering from bladder stones and a liver shunt. I'm posting a link to another thread Dr. Karen Tobias And Liver Shunt Repair One idea I've had is if the specialist's in Australia aren't very knowledge about best treatment protocols, I believe that Dr.Tobias does do consults with vets. Anyhow, look at this thread, post number 2, gives you a link to website on Dr.Tobias.
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08-09-2011, 02:51 AM | #6 |
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| i'm sorry you're going through this with your sweet pup. will keep you both in my thoughts and prayers. i do not have much advice to offer except that my zowi is on denamarin, long term. my vet told me that it is just a vitamin to help support the liver and really does not have any bad side effects. my 10 year old baby has atypical cushing's disease and has been prescribed denamarin for an enlarged liver. she has been taking it daily since june.
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08-09-2011, 04:40 AM | #7 |
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| Sad to hear your baby is having this problem. Hugs and prayers for you and your sweet baby.
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