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03-23-2011, 01:14 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Georgia, USA
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| Question about LucyBelle's Spay... Hi... LucyBelle is home from her surgery today. The vet used staples instead of stitches. They look so big on her little tummy. They didn't send any pain medicine home with us nor a cone. I asked about her licking the incision and they said not to worry. I asked three times about wearing something and they said no need. That's not what I've read from yorkie experts here!! Should I go ahead an put a onesie on her anyway...or wait to see if she's messing with the incision?? Jeannie |
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03-23-2011, 01:19 PM | #2 |
I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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| I would put the onsie on better safe than sorry
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03-23-2011, 01:32 PM | #3 |
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| I'd be insisting on pain meds. Staples are okay.
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03-23-2011, 01:39 PM | #4 |
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| Oh, me, too. Get that poor baby some pain medication!
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03-23-2011, 03:27 PM | #5 |
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| Oh my goodness I can't believe they didn't send home any pain med's. I would certainly call the Vet back and get some right away.
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03-24-2011, 07:31 AM | #6 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Georgia, USA
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| I put the onesie on her bc she woke me up at 5 a.m. licking the incision...I agree, better safe than sorry. She doesn't seem to be in any pain today but if anything gets worse, I'll call the vet for meds. Thank you all! |
03-24-2011, 11:40 AM | #7 |
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| Wow, I'm very surprised they didn't send any pain meds home with you. I was lucky with Sasha. She never messed with her incision so I didn't have to use a onesie or a cone, just had to give her her pain meds. |
03-24-2011, 01:31 PM | #8 |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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| That is awful they did not prescribe pain meds. Dogs do not show pain. That surgery hurts! You have to think....would you want to not have pain meds with a hysterectomy?
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03-24-2011, 03:09 PM | #9 |
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| Why do some vets do this - send a dog with a fresh incision home with nothing to help with the pain? It is hard to believe that in this day and time some still don't do it. Aren't dogs known for being stoic and many only shaking and having increased BP with the most severe pain? Just an accidental skin cut as big as even the smallest incision would warrant something for pain, I would think, let alone surgical exploration/excision.
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03-24-2011, 03:33 PM | #10 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida
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| My vets never give pain meds...you want the dog to feel some discomfort so they will rest and not run around...like that does much good anyway... Pinkie was spayed two weeks ago...she came home ran around like she had nothing more done then a nail clipping...I had to pen her up for a few days to give the incision time to heal... Humans think dog pain is as intense as human pain...it just is not...ever seen a woman have a c-section, come home an hour later, jump on the couch, round around and beg for dinner...LOL That is why dogs can have abcessed teeth and not be screaming in pain...unfortunately they deal with it when the owner does not know... Do not put a onzie on her...you want it clean and to air heal..rarely do female lick the wound...now males are another story. Last edited by YorkieRose; 03-24-2011 at 03:34 PM. |
03-24-2011, 03:37 PM | #11 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida
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| I just read she didi lick the incision...distract her... When medication can be avoided with a Yorkie, I always go that route..seen too many go down with reactions to things you would never suspect. |
03-24-2011, 04:26 PM | #12 |
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| I think dogs may not feel pain quite the same way we do but since I cannot know what they feel, I cannot stand the thought that they may just be soldiering on despite their pain. I've read, and my vet tells me also, that most animals are genetically programmed not to show pain for fear of becoming an outcast by their pack, or worse, prey to some other species. He says that since they do not know any better, after surgery, like with a serious injury in the wild, they try to behave as normally as possible just to try to stay safe. That seems plausible in their world, whereas the lady with the C-Section knows full well the seriousness of what she has undergone and takes all necessary precautions since she has no genetic predisposition against, nor fear of, showing pain and weakness. Quite the opposite as, in our species, showing pain often brings many positive rewards. Just in case, after any open/cutting procedure, my dogs always have their pain medication and are kept quiet, not allowed to jump, run around or inferfere with an incision to keep them as safe and comfortable as possible. Thank goodness my vet takes this stand with me as I am a 100% wus when it comes to possible animal suffering even a wee bit.
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03-24-2011, 05:59 PM | #13 |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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| Sorry, I don't buy that they do not have pain. The specialists I use agree and their focus is on proper pain management. My regular vet is the same. I think not medicating a dog after surgery is barbaric. Just because they don't carry on people assume they are not in pain. I might also add that I have had many, many yorkies of different ages and sizes and never let them go without pain meds..and not one died from being medicated. If dosed properly there is no reason for them to die or suffer any ill effects.
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03-25-2011, 05:56 AM | #14 | |
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When a dog understands why they are in a painful situtation they tend to cope 1000 times better then a human. For example...birthing....I have seen dozens of first time bitches ready to whelp..eyes are wide and full of fear and yelping...they do not understand why they are hurting...then suddenly a pup is born and a light bulb goes on...they settle down, relax and bear the contractions without screams as humans do...a natural pain reliever takes over as they fear abates... Another example is teeth....I have seen people neglect teeth so much the Yorkies have a facial abcess that drains under the eye...I alert the owner that the animal MUST be seen by the vet asap...vet finds several decayed and abcessed teeth....if it was a human, we could in no way not be hollering in pain and begging for help...but the owner never realized the teeth were bad because the dog continued to eat and act normal...when the abcess appeared on the face they got concerned as to what it was...that is why it is so important to have regualr dental exams... Of course, dogs feel pain...but some pain is necessary to prevent further injury...when something hurts the dog will lay down and rest...given meds it feels no pain and can do so much more harm...broken legs are a good example...I wanted pain meds for one of mine who broke a leg...vet refused...last thing he wanted was for the dog to feel no discomfort and run on the leg for a few days... How many have had Yorkies teeth pulled in a dental...if anyone pulled 4 of my teeth, I can 100% promised you I would not come home and respect dinner as ususal..but mine walk n the door from surgery, dental, tests, whatever and since they are back with me, the Pack Leader, they know all is well and they have no fear or stress...and they react normal. No way I could have walked across the room the day of a surgery I had..Pinkie came home from a spay and ran into the kitchen wanting dinner...then jumped in her bed...I picked her up and touched her stitches gently and told her she had a boo boo and needed rest..she disagreed and continued to run around...so I penned her up for the night... As with Humans pain is so much worst when we are fearful and worried about the pain...relax, pray, breath deeply and 75% of any pain I have will abate to a managable point...I guess that is why some people take meds for a splinter and others can do through surgery with meds like tylenol...or asprinin... DO you know when I was growing up in the UK, dentists did not use novacaine for any reason..so my parents would drive 2 hrs to an American dentist who did....THAT IS BARARIC...LOL | |
03-25-2011, 06:24 AM | #15 |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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| Pain in my home is not necessary....I protect my pups. They are not living in the wild and have me to help them with their peers if need be. Actually, most of mine are quite gentle and caring with the ones who are ill and/or have had surgery. My pups have no fear or stress and I can tell you that they do not have pain either. I have had pups with fractures and they were crated to prevent running...and they were medicated for pain! And, yes, they will have more pain if stressed...same for humans. I am not referring to stress....I am simply saying that a pup that has had surgery should be medicated for pain imo. We are going to have to respectfully disagree on this one for sure.
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