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Lucyana1129 · 07-29-2010, 10:34 AM

Bentley just went to get his DHPP vaccine. The vet called and told me he had a severe reaction to it. She said he is okay now but he is no longer allowed to get vaccines. Not even rabies. What will we do??? WIll he get parvo if he cant have anymore? This was his second set. Do you think they may have given too much? He only weighs 1.75 lbs. Should I be angry with them? What if he has another reaction. Sorry, I am freaking out right now. I am really worried.

107barney · 07-29-2010, 10:41 AM

I think you found a vet that actually gave you good information! So many dogs have reactions and aren't told about all the options and risks of future vaccines. Some even die after reactions, like little Brandi who had a terrible reaction to a DHPP booster. So it is really good your vet is on top of this. Make sure you are too! Sometimes we have to be the advocates for our babies, and sometimes vets do not like that, but they are our Yorkies!

Lucyana1129 · 07-29-2010, 10:48 AM

If he is okay now is there any possibility he will have a second reaction? You're 100% right. I should be grateful for their quick thinking and that they told me about it and arent suggesting trying again just to get $$$. I will for sure be on top of it. I will make sure to let any future vets know that he will not be getting any vaccines of any sort and they can just get over it if they have an issue with it b/c he is my baby and I dont know what I'd do if anything happened.

107barney · 07-29-2010, 11:00 AM

Well usually reactions occur right away. That is not to say that other reactions dont occur later. They probably shot him up with benedryl after to counteract the immune response he had to the vaccine. Ask your vet if your baby needs to be on benadryl for a bit. I've never had any reactions with my three, so I'm not that helpful in this regard.

I personally would be very careful about medications too.

Here is a link to Dr. Dodds - she is kind of the vaccine guru. I'd also check out the American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA) guidelines - not sure if they cover "what to do if" scenarios but at least it's a start!

W Jean Dodds Vaccine Protocol VACCINATION PROTOCOLS

http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf

Lucyana1129 · 07-29-2010, 11:04 AM

Thank you so much. Having someone to talk to has calmed me down a bit. I was in hysterics. I have never had this happen with my other dogs either. So I am just lost as to what to do. Thanks again for the help.

107barney · 07-29-2010, 11:08 AM

You're very welcome. BTW, welcome to YT!
I just PM'd another member, Ellie May, who is really knowledgeable so I'm hoping she gives you some additional info. Maybe some of the breeders on here like Mardelin have some info on puppies too.

Ellie May · 07-29-2010, 11:11 AM

Was it just DHPP or was it DHLPP or DHPP-C?

What happened during the reaction? Anaphylaxis?

Because this was only the second set, being unprotected for life is a concern. I'd titer in a few weeks, but if your pup really can't be vaccinated again and the titer isn't high, he will be at risk of contracting some serious things. Not sure why they are saying no rabies when that's not what caused the reaction. It sounds like he came out of it okay. Has he had a problem with any other drugs?

kjc · 07-29-2010, 01:29 PM

How old is he? And how old was he when he got his first set of vaccines?

Lucyana1129 · 07-29-2010, 02:06 PM

He was 7 (6/24) weeks when he got his first DHPP. Then again at 10 weeks (7/15). Those were done by the breeder. Then again today. But today was done by our vet. He is 12 weeks old. Im not sure why they are saying no more at all. We are going up there at 4pm today to get him and to discuss it all in detail. They said he went into shock and had to be given oxygen. I went up there a few hours ago to see how he was doing and he seemed fine. A little groggy but not bad. I am concerned that without anymore vaccines that he will be more suceptible to disease. I did read that with severe reactions they do suggest no more vaccines be given. I also read that it typically happens (the reaction) on the 2nd or 3rd set. I am just happy he is okay now. It could have been much worse. I just am not sure where we go from here.

kjc · 07-29-2010, 02:43 PM

It is possible that he had enough vaccine to aquire immunity. Titers will need to be done to determine this. It all depends on when the immunity from his Mom actually left his system. Definitely check what vaccine he was given today... if they tried to give him Lepto or Corona. Lepto is known to cause these kinds of reactions in small breed dogs. Thank God your vet was able to help him. Keeping him in my prayers... Let us known what she says....

Kind of the same thing when people (or dogs) are allergic to bee stings.... maybe get a script for an Epi-pen when you go back...

lluna · 07-29-2010, 04:17 PM

Hi ! I got my baby "Nano" at almost 15wks (1.4lbs) I was told by the breeder he only needed his last set of shots, but to make sure to tell my vet to separate his shots by 2-3 days in between. When I took him to the Vet at 17wks for his last set of shots and only at 1.8 lbs. I was told by the vet that all the shot (3 total including rabies) could be given at the same time as long as he will give him a shot of BENADRYL just before the shot, and to continue with the benadryl for the next 72hrs 3xday. Well he got his shots and by the time we got home he was playing and eating as if nothing had happen.

Mardelin · 07-29-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucyana1129

He was 7 (6/24) weeks when he got his first DHPP. Then again at 10 weeks (7/15). Those were done by the breeder. Then again today. But today was done by our vet. He is 12 weeks old. Im not sure why they are saying no more at all. We are going up there at 4pm today to get him and to discuss it all in detail. They said he went into shock and had to be given oxygen. I went up there a few hours ago to see how he was doing and he seemed fine. A little groggy but not bad. I am concerned that without anymore vaccines that he will be more suceptible to disease. I did read that with severe reactions they do suggest no more vaccines be given. I also read that it typically happens (the reaction) on the 2nd or 3rd set. I am just happy he is okay now. It could have been much worse. I just am not sure where we go from here.

You're pup began his vaccinations a bit too young. Then there is the consideration of his weight. Usually one this small should only get a 1/2 dose.....beginning between 8-9 weeks of age, 2nd 12 wks and the final at 16 weeks.

Because of your pups reaction you're vet is more than likely telling you that your pup should not ever have a vaccinations again. He will have to provide you a letter informing animal control of your pups reaction and his recommondations.

Mardelin · 07-29-2010, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lluna

Hi ! I got my baby "Nano" at almost 15wks (1.4lbs) I was told by the breeder he only needed his last set of shots, but to make sure to tell my vet to separate his shots by 2-3 days in between. When I took him to the Vet at 17wks for his last set of shots and only at 1.8 lbs. I was told by the vet that all the shot (3 total including rabies) could be given at the same time as long as he will give him a shot of BENADRYL just before the shot, and to continue with the benadryl for the next 72hrs 3xday. Well he got his shots and by the time we got home he was playing and eating as if nothing had happen.

As a breeder I never recommend all shots to be given at once. Rabies shouldn't be given until at least 6 or 7 months of age....this is the shot that can cause the greatest adverse reaction.....

Lucyana1129 · 07-29-2010, 04:28 PM

I just got Bentley home. He is doing well. They said that with the type of reaction he had, giving him meds before hand wouldnt have helped much. They gave him SQ fluids and oxygen. It was his last set so thats good. I found out that they gave him DHPPCv. I am only familiar with DHPP and DHLPP. I know that lepto isnt common anymore because of all the reactions. Is that the same with the corona? The breeder had given him just DHPP twice and he was fine. So Im wondering if it was the corona that did it. Anyways, thank goodness he is okay. He is on benedryl for a few days just in case. He is next to me sleeping right now. Poor little man.

Lucyana1129 · 07-29-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin

You're pup began his vaccinations a bit too young. Then there is the consideration of his weight. Usually one this small should only get a 1/2 dose.....beginning between 8-9 weeks of age, 2nd 12 wks and the final at 16 weeks.

Because of your pups reaction you're vet is more than likely telling you that your pup should not ever have a vaccinations again. He will have to provide you a letter informing animal control of your pups reaction and his recommondations.

She did mention providing the letter.

07-29-2010, 10:34 AM	#1
Lucyana1129 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 231 Blog Entries: 2	Help!!! Bentley just went to get his DHPP vaccine. The vet called and told me he had a severe reaction to it. She said he is okay now but he is no longer allowed to get vaccines. Not even rabies. What will we do??? WIll he get parvo if he cant have anymore? This was his second set. Do you think they may have given too much? He only weighs 1.75 lbs. Should I be angry with them? What if he has another reaction. Sorry, I am freaking out right now. I am really worried.

07-29-2010, 10:41 AM	#2
107barney T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England Posts: 9,816	I think you found a vet that actually gave you good information! So many dogs have reactions and aren't told about all the options and risks of future vaccines. Some even die after reactions, like little Brandi who had a terrible reaction to a DHPP booster. So it is really good your vet is on top of this. Make sure you are too! Sometimes we have to be the advocates for our babies, and sometimes vets do not like that, but they are our Yorkies! __________________ T. Bumpkins & Co. Washable Doggie Pee Pads (Save 10% Enter YTSAVE10 at checkout) Cathy, Teddy, Winston and Baby Clyde...RIP angels Barney and Daisy

07-29-2010, 11:00 AM	#4
107barney T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England Posts: 9,816	Well usually reactions occur right away. That is not to say that other reactions dont occur later. They probably shot him up with benedryl after to counteract the immune response he had to the vaccine. Ask your vet if your baby needs to be on benadryl for a bit. I've never had any reactions with my three, so I'm not that helpful in this regard. I personally would be very careful about medications too. Here is a link to Dr. Dodds - she is kind of the vaccine guru. I'd also check out the American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA) guidelines - not sure if they cover "what to do if" scenarios but at least it's a start! W Jean Dodds Vaccine Protocol VACCINATION PROTOCOLS http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf __________________ T. Bumpkins & Co. Washable Doggie Pee Pads (Save 10% Enter YTSAVE10 at checkout) Cathy, Teddy, Winston and Baby Clyde...RIP angels Barney and Daisy Last edited by 107barney; 07-29-2010 at 11:02 AM.

07-29-2010, 11:08 AM	#6
107barney T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England Posts: 9,816	You're very welcome. BTW, welcome to YT! I just PM'd another member, Ellie May, who is really knowledgeable so I'm hoping she gives you some additional info. Maybe some of the breeders on here like Mardelin have some info on puppies too. __________________ T. Bumpkins & Co. Washable Doggie Pee Pads (Save 10% Enter YTSAVE10 at checkout) Cathy, Teddy, Winston and Baby Clyde...RIP angels Barney and Daisy

07-29-2010, 11:11 AM	#7
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Was it just DHPP or was it DHLPP or DHPP-C? What happened during the reaction? Anaphylaxis? Because this was only the second set, being unprotected for life is a concern. I'd titer in a few weeks, but if your pup really can't be vaccinated again and the titer isn't high, he will be at risk of contracting some serious things. Not sure why they are saying no rabies when that's not what caused the reaction. It sounds like he came out of it okay. Has he had a problem with any other drugs? __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

07-29-2010, 10:48 AM	#3
Lucyana1129 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 231 Blog Entries: 2	If he is okay now is there any possibility he will have a second reaction? You're 100% right. I should be grateful for their quick thinking and that they told me about it and arent suggesting trying again just to get $$$. I will for sure be on top of it. I will make sure to let any future vets know that he will not be getting any vaccines of any sort and they can just get over it if they have an issue with it b/c he is my baby and I dont know what I'd do if anything happened.

07-29-2010, 11:04 AM	#5
Lucyana1129 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 231 Blog Entries: 2	Thank you so much. Having someone to talk to has calmed me down a bit. I was in hysterics. I have never had this happen with my other dogs either. So I am just lost as to what to do. Thanks again for the help.

07-29-2010, 01:29 PM	#8
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	How old is he? And how old was he when he got his first set of vaccines? __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

07-29-2010, 02:06 PM	#9
Lucyana1129 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 231 Blog Entries: 2	He was 7 (6/24) weeks when he got his first DHPP. Then again at 10 weeks (7/15). Those were done by the breeder. Then again today. But today was done by our vet. He is 12 weeks old. Im not sure why they are saying no more at all. We are going up there at 4pm today to get him and to discuss it all in detail. They said he went into shock and had to be given oxygen. I went up there a few hours ago to see how he was doing and he seemed fine. A little groggy but not bad. I am concerned that without anymore vaccines that he will be more suceptible to disease. I did read that with severe reactions they do suggest no more vaccines be given. I also read that it typically happens (the reaction) on the 2nd or 3rd set. I am just happy he is okay now. It could have been much worse. I just am not sure where we go from here.

07-29-2010, 02:43 PM	#10
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	It is possible that he had enough vaccine to aquire immunity. Titers will need to be done to determine this. It all depends on when the immunity from his Mom actually left his system. Definitely check what vaccine he was given today... if they tried to give him Lepto or Corona. Lepto is known to cause these kinds of reactions in small breed dogs. Thank God your vet was able to help him. Keeping him in my prayers... Let us known what she says.... Kind of the same thing when people (or dogs) are allergic to bee stings.... maybe get a script for an Epi-pen when you go back... __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity Last edited by kjc; 07-29-2010 at 02:47 PM.

07-29-2010, 04:17 PM	#11
lluna YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4	Hi ! I got my baby "Nano" at almost 15wks (1.4lbs) I was told by the breeder he only needed his last set of shots, but to make sure to tell my vet to separate his shots by 2-3 days in between. When I took him to the Vet at 17wks for his last set of shots and only at 1.8 lbs. I was told by the vet that all the shot (3 total including rabies) could be given at the same time as long as he will give him a shot of BENADRYL just before the shot, and to continue with the benadryl for the next 72hrs 3xday. Well he got his shots and by the time we got home he was playing and eating as if nothing had happen.

07-29-2010, 04:28 PM	#14
Lucyana1129 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 231 Blog Entries: 2	I just got Bentley home. He is doing well. They said that with the type of reaction he had, giving him meds before hand wouldnt have helped much. They gave him SQ fluids and oxygen. It was his last set so thats good. I found out that they gave him DHPPCv. I am only familiar with DHPP and DHLPP. I know that lepto isnt common anymore because of all the reactions. Is that the same with the corona? The breeder had given him just DHPP twice and he was fine. So Im wondering if it was the corona that did it. Anyways, thank goodness he is okay. He is on benedryl for a few days just in case. He is next to me sleeping right now. Poor little man.