My baby has scabies. . . help!

[all101]

I live in China and about 1 month ago I bought a yorkie. Ollie is now about 12 weeks old and he has developed a bad skin rash over the last week. Yesterday I took him to a Chinese vet who told me that he had scoptic scabies and a fungal infection. Ollie weighs 1.3 lbs and lately he has not wanted to eat much. For the last 2 days he has been shaking and crying a lot. The vet gave me two topical sprays, which I have never heard of before, and told me to spray him everyday. After I spray him he runs in cirlces and cries and shakes. I don't know what to do. The vet doesn't know much english and I don't know much Chinese and I am afraid that the medicine is going to hurt my baby boy. he already had a bad reation to the dewormer I gave him and had a hypoglycemic fit. He is losing hair now and is very tired and needs to be held, but now I have the itchies too! I don't know how good the Chinese food is so I feed him purina puppy chow (which he hates) fish, steak, carrots, and apple. I have washed everything, but I don't how he got it. He doesn't go outside at all because it is too cold. Please help me, I feel lost.

[cj125]

Oh gez... I really don't know anything about scabies and I'm not sure who's online right now. Try googling what your baby has and see what you can find out that way - at least until someone comes back online. I did find this place but I didn't have time to read anything on it so I can't vouch for anything it says - sorry. Normally I'd say talk to another vet but since there's a language problem...
Scabies In Dogs on RightHealth
Hang tight - we'll get someone on here who knows something about this.

[Nancy1999]

Oh that sounds horrible, I'm like Connie, I don't know much about it, but hopefully by tomorrow, you will get some better answers, here's another link that's helpful. Sarcoptic Mange in Dogs. Do you know what the sprays are?

[HollyandMommy]

Wow good luck. I'll try to find somthing in my books. I'll let you know tomorrow.

[capt_noonie]

I copied and pasted a few things I googled. Since China cannot use google anymore, I don't think the OP will find anything there....

From Itching dog scabiesDogs Scabies

Scabies is a skin disorder in dogs caused by infection with scabies mites (sarcoptes scabei). Those microscopic mites burrow in the dogs skin surface, storing their eggs in a trail behind them. The tunnels are visible as thin, scaly lines at the dogs skin. The itchy scalp and skin rashes of scabies occur because an allergy to the scabies mite. Scabies is one of the most itching skin disorders in dogs. Scabies mites prefer the dogs abdomen, chest, legs, and ears, but can affect any area of the dog skin.
Scabies mites usually spread by direct contact from host to host. However, scabies mites are only infective for 36 hours, which means that environmental decontamination is generally not necessary.

Scabies infections on humans go away on their own, as the scabies mite is not able to complete its life cycle on the wrong host.
Typical symptoms for the two kinds of dog mange:

Scabies Mange You see only few scabs at your dog's skin. It looks like a scab caused by a scratch. Some hairless patches may appear.
Your dog suffers from steadily itching skin.
Actually, scabies is very rare in cultivated countries. Scabies mites cannot survive in clean places. They live in garbage dumps or similar surroundings. Scabies mites are mainly present in poor countries of the third world.
Demodectic Mange
Caused by an immune system deficiency.
The entire skin looks pink, red, or even turns black. (There can be additional infections, rashes, pimples, or open sores)
Hairloss allover the body.
Demodectic mange is not very itching.


Treatment remedies from: Scabies in Dogs | Mange in Dogs | Dog Mange | Sarcoptes Scabiei

Scabies is known as ‘the itch’ and is a skin disorder characterized by superficial skin burrows and intense itching. Its causal agent is the mite called as Sarcoptes Scabei. The name Scabies is derived from the Latin word for Scratch. There are various methods for dogs scabies treatment.
Scabies in dogs is a condition that results in severe itching and hair loss. This condition results in reddening of the skin and forming of lesions. Mostly it affects belly, ears, legs and chest.
Scabies is easy to diagnose as it is marked by intense itching. But very often a detailed study is required. A scraping of the skin of the affected area should be put under microscope to identify mites and their eggs. This is followed by measures to treat the condition in your dog.
• Trimming of fur: Before you begin actually treating the animal it is vital to trim any long fur so that topical treatments impact the area affected by scabies. This is vital for effective dogs scabies treatment.
• Medicated shampoos: Counted among the most effective treatments to get rid of scabies mites that cause the disease in the dog. This treatment is often recommended by doctors and the dogs also respond properly to this treatment. The shampoos have insecticides intended to kill the mites. Now there are many shampoos available in the market and it is best to consult your vet which is the best one for your dog. It is very important to keep dogs clean by giving frequent baths with these shampoos.
• Injections: One other scabies treatment is administering drugs through injections. The drugs given intravenously include Frontline Plus, Revolution and Selemectin that work well against scabies. The drug Selemectin is either injected or fed orally and has proved to be very effective. It is considered a convenient treatment as dosage is only once every month and it has no side effects.
Other drugs given intravenously include Ivermectin and Moxidectin . For Ivermectin, two dosages are injected once in two weeks. But Ivermectin is generally not recommended because of its side effects.
• Lime Sulfur Dip: It is a solution containing lime sulfur(97.5%), most effective for dogs scabies treatment. The solution is created by mixing 4 oz of lime sulfur to one gallon of water. On being diluted the solution is poured all over the dog’s body allowing to soak up in the affected areas. Allow the solution to last on the animal without washing or drying the dog. A pair of gloves is handy while you give your dog a sulfur bath. Also make sure the dog does not drink any drops of the solution. It is a very effective and long lasting treatment for scabies.
There are also many over the counter treatments for dogs scabies treatment:
- Natural Oils: Tea tree oil and Neem Oil are supposed to fight scabies effectively. Tea tree oil is famous for its anti fungal and anti bacterial qualities. Apply tea tree oil morning and night on the affected area. Neem Oil is to be applied twice a day.
- Sulfur creams and Permethrin can be used as topical creams.
The basic precaution to fight this disease is to keep your pet clean and well groomed. Also, maintain cleanliness of your neighborhood so it does not foster the growth of scabies mites. There will be no need for dogs scabies treatment in a clean and hygienic environment.

[Ladymom]

Oh, dear. That poor, poor puppy. The itching is terrible.

My Petie (Golden Retriever) got mange/scabies. I have never heard of using a spray. He was treated with Ivermectin given by injection. It took three injections to clear it up.

This is an excellent article from Marvistavet:

Sarcoptic Mange

I got the itchies, too. While humans aren't hosts, the mites will bite people and the itching is terrible, isn't it? I washed all my bedding everyday until we got rid of it.

Can you find a vet that you can communicate with better? This poor little guy has to be just miserable and since he is so tiny, you have to be very careful how you treat it.

[cj125]

I don't want to scare you and I'm not promoting the products used in this article but I think you should read it. It explains about the scabies.
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Your little one is so small that you really need to help him keep his weight on and immunity up.

Do you have any NutriCal?
Nutri-Cal

If he won't eat his normal food - try boiled chicken.
Feed him frequently - every 2-3 hrs.
Keep his bedding clean.
Give him lots of love!

I hope this helps for right now - check back often because I'm sure more people will be coming on to help you out.

[kjc]

Can you get Revolution Heartworm product? Maybe order online? Best treatment for Sarcoptic Mange Mites. Apply once, then repeat in 4 weeks, then once every month as heartworm/mite preventative. You will need a pymethrin(sp) creme from the doctor for you... one time application.

https://www.revolution4dogs.com/default.aspx

He will need to be tested for Heartworm first.

[cj125]

Thank You Ladies! I didn't know they couldn't get google in China anymore.

I'm worried about this little one, not only about the scabies but because he's so little and loosing weight. I think Marj is right - she's going to have to be very careful on his treatment because he is so small. I can't believe we don't have a YT member that's a vet! Oh, I'm thinking.... I think I know a couple that are vet techs. I'll be back!

[cj125]

Originally Posted by kjc

Can you get Revolution Heartworm product? Maybe order online? Best treatment for Sarcoptic Mange Mites. Apply once, then repeat in 4 weeks, then once every month as heartworm/mite preventative. You will need a pymethrin(sp) creme from the doctor for you... one time application.

https://www.revolution4dogs.com/default.aspx

Can you use this on a 12 wk old puppy? We don't have to use heartworm meds out here so I don't know what the age is on this stuff.

[kjc]

Revolution is a once a month topical application. Works within 24 hours on scabies. My dog slept alot the day of the initial treatment from exhaustion from scratching so much. Check with the vet, you may be able to use a smaller dose due to his weight.

Any shampoo that contains coconut oil extracts is really good for skin and hair. It's a natural antibiotic/antifungal among other things too numerous to list here. I've used it on my skin kid and her skin issues cleared up better than with the prescription ointments from her doctor. (She has had some kind of fungal/ecxema problem on one arm for the last 3 years. I can barely find it on her now, after using Suave coconut body wash for 1 month!) Sometimes fungal products feel like they burn when applied to the skin. Maybe the spray does this to your pup? Also it might feel cold, too.

[kjc]

Revolution is a once a month topical application. Works within 24 hours on scabies. My dog slept alot the day of the initial treatment from exhaustion from scratching so much. Check with the vet, you may be able to use a smaller dose due to his weight.

Any shampoo that contains coconut oil extracts is really good for skin and hair. It's a natural antibiotic/antifungal among other things too numerous to list here. I've used it on my skin kid and her skin issues cleared up better than with the prescription ointments from her doctor. (She has had some kind of fungal/ecxema problem on one arm for the last 3 years. I can barely find it on her now, after using Suave coconut body wash for 1 month!) Sometimes fungal products feel like they burn when applied to the skin. Maybe the spray does this to your pup? Also it might feel cold, too.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by cj125

Can you use this on a 12 wk old puppy? We don't have to use heartworm meds out here so I don't know what the age is on this stuff.

Sorry computer died.... yes for 6 weeks and up, (I checked before I posted)

[kjc]

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solution in single dose tubes for topical (dermal)treatment of dogs 6 weeks of age and older and cats
8 weeks of age and older.The content of each tube is formulated to provide a minimum of 2.7 mg/lb
(66 mg/kkg) of body weight of selamectin.The chemical composition of selamectin is (55Z,225S)-225-
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cated for the prevention and control of flea infestations (CCtenocephalides felis),prevention of heartworm
disease caused by Dirofilaria immitis,and the treatment and control of ear mite (OOtodectes cynotis)
infestations.REVOLUTION also is indicated for the treatment and control of sarcoptic mange (SSarcoptes
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cated for the prevention and control of flea infestations (CCtenocephalides felis),,prevention of heartworm
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[kjc]

ADVERSE REACTIONS:
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