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Old 07-31-2009, 08:11 AM   #1
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One of my babies has been diagnosed with a GI disease. They dont know for sure but the enzymes that are elevated in her bloodwork are the ones that would lead the vet to believe it could be pancreatitis or IBD, or a # of other GI dieases. So that being said, we KNOW there is something wrong, but we cant be sure what. So our first plan of action is to change her food to low fat, pronto. I am VERY hesitant to put her on the prescription foods, so does anyone have any good suggestions for lowfat foods? She is currently on Merrick, but i guess its too rich. I may post this in health/diet as well.

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The vet didn't do a Spec cPL?
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The vet didn't do a Spec cPL?
What is that??
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Oh I am so sorry to hear about your baby with pancreatitis. My Izzy was diagnosed with pancreatitis/SIBO and IBD since last November. She was on The Honest Kitchen which is a great food but to keep her alive I had to bite the bullet and she is on Purina EN canned. She is on several supplements and Tylan.

I also talked with a holistic vet and nutrionist and in Izzy's case they all agreed to keep her on the canned. Please do what's right for your baby even if it's going on the RX foods for a little while to stabalize her.

We spent thousands of dollars to keep Izzy alive (she has had 4 episodes since November 08 and right now she is going on 3 months episode free since we swtiched to Purina EN and giving her Tylan).

We had every test done to help guide us on treatment plan. What blood tests has your vet done?

Keep us posted.
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Oh I am so sorry to hear about your baby with pancreatitis. My Izzy was diagnosed with pancreatitis/SIBO and IBD since last November. She was on The Honest Kitchen which is a great food but to keep her alive I had to bite the bullet and she is on Purina EN canned. She is on several supplements and Tylan.

I also talked with a holistic vet and nutrionist and in Izzy's case they all agreed to keep her on the canned. Please do what's right for your baby even if it's going on the RX foods for a little while to stabalize her.

We spent thousands of dollars to keep Izzy alive (she has had 4 episodes since November 08 and right now she is going on 3 months episode free since we swtiched to Purina EN and giving her Tylan).

We had every test done to help guide us on treatment plan. What blood tests has your vet done?

Keep us posted.
Thank you!! I honestly dont know the tests, i just know she has done bloodwork. I have a call into my vet to call me back regarding the test mentioned above too. This is all new to me so im not sure what im doing! She mentioned EN, and told me to look up anything i felt comfortable with that was LOW FAT. I have been reading about Royal Canin vet diet (LF or HE), but all the foods, including the regular line have all the same ingredients. I had worked so hard to find them a food without by-products or corn, real meat, that had veggies/fruits/grains, and now im back at square one having to get a food that doesnt SEEM healthy. I will put her on whatever she needs, but i have heard so many bad things about prescription diets! But now we aren't messing around with random episodes of tummy aches, she has SOMETHING wrong with her and i have to change her diet asap. Her vet said she is not in the critical/fatal phase of this, she is very active/playful, etc, but did have a night that she was refusing food/vomiting, accompanied by several days of diarrhea, which is what prompted the vet visit and bloodwork. I will put her on the EN if thats what she needs, for sure! But i've heard so many stories from people telling me that vets get a cut from prescription food sales/ etc and they dont need to take any nutrition courses at vet school (how that is possible i still dont know!), so i have been weary of their food reccomendations for years....
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It's a blood test that can tell you whether it's pancreatitis.
It would come back 0-200...no, 201-400...maybe, 401-???...yes, I think.
It should be run when pancreatitis is suspected along with possibly a TLI and vitamin b's.
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Bailey has chronic pancreatitis too and I also consulted with a holistic pet nutritionalist. Bailey is on Natural Balance Fish & Potato, we also give him 1 oz of cod a day, canned pumkin, green beans, supplements and he he takes synovi vitamins for his LP. Bailey has has IBD, so he can't have chicken. He's been ok for 2 months since he's been on this diet (fingers crossed) but it's been expensive. I'm willing do do anything and pay anything to keep my baby alive tho. The supplements are very important because the help to digest and process the food. The holistic pet nutritionalist name is Susan Davis and I highly reccommend her. Here is her website information. Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care She does phone appointments too, which is how I did Bailey's appt. She is very thorough. Good luck!
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Bailey has chronic pancreatitis too and I also consulted with a holistic pet nutritionalist. Bailey is on Natural Balance Fish & Potato, we also give him 1 oz of cod a day, canned pumkin, green beans, supplements and he he takes synovi vitamins for his LP. Bailey has has IBD, so he can't have chicken. He's been ok for 2 months since he's been on this diet (fingers crossed) but it's been expensive. I'm willing do do anything and pay anything to keep my baby alive tho. The supplements are very important because the help to digest and process the food. The holistic pet nutritionalist name is Susan Davis and I highly reccommend her. Here is her website information. Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care She does phone appointments too, which is how I did Bailey's appt. She is very thorough. Good luck!
Ahh that's who we called - Susan Davis and Dr. Gordon!! Glad to hear that Bailey is doing well..I keep my fingers crossed daily and it's nerve racking to say the least.
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Thanks! I need all the help I can get! One thing I've noticed... Bailey was starting to get sick (throw up) a few times after eating and it was because the pumpkin had mold on it. Susan said the pumkin doesn't last more than 2-3 days, so watch that closely if anyone is feeding it to their babies! The mold was so little I barely noticed it, but I still saw it!

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Thank you!! I honestly dont know the tests, i just know she has done bloodwork. I have a call into my vet to call me back regarding the test mentioned above too. This is all new to me so im not sure what im doing! She mentioned EN, and told me to look up anything i felt comfortable with that was LOW FAT. I have been reading about Royal Canin vet diet (LF or HE), but all the foods, including the regular line have all the same ingredients. I had worked so hard to find them a food without by-products or corn, real meat, that had veggies/fruits/grains, and now im back at square one having to get a food that doesnt SEEM healthy. I will put her on whatever she needs, but i have heard so many bad things about prescription diets! But now we aren't messing around with random episodes of tummy aches, she has SOMETHING wrong with her and i have to change her diet asap. Her vet said she is not in the critical/fatal phase of this, she is very active/playful, etc, but did have a night that she was refusing food/vomiting, accompanied by several days of diarrhea, which is what prompted the vet visit and bloodwork. I will put her on the EN if thats what she needs, for sure! But i've heard so many stories from people telling me that vets get a cut from prescription food sales/ etc and they dont need to take any nutrition courses at vet school (how that is possible i still dont know!), so i have been weary of their food reccomendations for years....
i recommend purina ha as it is a hydrolized diet where protein is broken down so easier for dog to digest food. it has done wonders for my dexter- i hate to do vet foods but it works and if it works i am sticking with it. sounds like ibd in large intestines as small intestines is vomitting large is diarhea
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Thanks! I need all the help I can get! One thing I've noticed... Bailey was starting to get sick (throw up) a few times after eating and it was because the pumpkin had mold on it. Susan said the pumkin doesn't last more than 2-3 days, so watch that closely if anyone is feeding it to their babies! The mold was so little I barely noticed it, but I still saw it!
correct this is why i buy whole foods organic brand and i open can and freeze in ice cube trays and pop out put in baggie and put in freezer and freeze one cube at a time when needed
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Bailey has chronic pancreatitis too and I also consulted with a holistic pet nutritionalist. Bailey is on Natural Balance Fish & Potato, we also give him 1 oz of cod a day, canned pumkin, green beans, supplements and he he takes synovi vitamins for his LP. Bailey has has IBD, so he can't have chicken. He's been ok for 2 months since he's been on this diet (fingers crossed) but it's been expensive. I'm willing do do anything and pay anything to keep my baby alive tho. The supplements are very important because the help to digest and process the food. The holistic pet nutritionalist name is Susan Davis and I highly reccommend her. Here is her website information. Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care She does phone appointments too, which is how I did Bailey's appt. She is very thorough. Good luck!
white potato is inflammatory so not good for dogs with inflammatory bowel disease to be on a white potato diet

Dr. Perricone's List of Pro-Inflammatory Foods - Oprah.com

my 3 vomit white potato so many dogs cannot tolerate white potato so it builds up in system and they start throwing up - i use to pill my dd with white potato and after metacam messed her up she now cannot eat white potato, dex has ibd and has always vomitted on white potato diets, and demi i have given white potato and she throws it up and she has not health issues. Just a thought as sweet potato is better than white potato
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It's a blood test that can tell you whether it's pancreatitis.
It would come back 0-200...no, 201-400...maybe, 401-???...yes, I think.
It should be run when pancreatitis is suspected along with possibly a TLI and vitamin b's.
the tli tests for epi and the spec cpli tests for pancreatitis but also my internal medicine specialist stated they are finding dogs with high amylase and lipase along with high spec cpli with no symptoms of pancreatitis have ibd and i believe ibd in small intestines and pancreatitis go hand in hand as they are right next to each other so if say white potato inflames intestine which happened to dex then it sets off the pancreas and pancreas controls the insulin in the body which is another reason white potato is bad as it converts to sugar in body and why diabetics should not have white potato so for two reason i do not like white potato for ibd and pancreatic dogs. If a dog gets pancreatitis too many times they can get diabetes or epi. Another thing i read in whole dog journal is dogs that test high on triglycerides after 12 hr fast are more prone to pancreatitis as they already have high fat content in blood and my dex had high triglycerides on 12 hr fast.
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solid gold has a good low fat food it is 6% fat which is good, my girlfriend has had her dog on it for awhile and has done well with it, it is called holistique blend.
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solid gold has a good low fat food it is 6% fat which is good, my girlfriend has had her dog on it for awhile and has done well with it, it is called holistique blend.
as long as no white potato as alot of ibd dogs get pancreatitis and potato inflames the intestines in small intestinal area and can trigger the pancreas. This is what happened to my dog
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