Lola's Stomach Is Gurggling Really Loudly!

[LolaLove]

My little Lola must have a terrible tummy ache! I feel so bad for her and don't know what to do to help her. She's lying on my bed and I can hear her stomach gurggling very loudly. I've tried giving her some water but she won't drink it. I tried giving her some "I/D" wet food for sensitive stomachs, but she won't eat. It's only just started about an hour ago, but seems to be pretty painful. Does anyone have any advice?? She gets stomach aches pretty frequently because she throws up a lot and get diarrhea pretty often. She's always eating grass which triggers the throwing up. Any suggestions what I can do for her now, or do we just have to wait it out?? I hate seeing my little girl in pain like this! Please help! Thanks!!

[Wylie's Mom]

What do you feed her in general? If this happens all the time, you really do want to determine why as this can really stress the digestive system and then you end up w/ long-term problems.

You can give a 1/2 tsp of Pepto Bismol. Also, see if she'll eat a soda cracker or a little bread.

[Patti]

My pom gets that and she has colitis, so my vet gave ne some medicine I give her for her tummy. Maybe your vet can determine why she is having this and find something to help her. Good luck

[kalina82]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

What do you feed her in general? If this happens all the time, you really do want to determine why as this can really stress the digestive system and then you end up w/ long-term problems.

You can give a 1/2 tsp of Pepto Bismol. Also, see if she'll eat a soda cracker or a little bread.

Pepto Bismol and Kaopeptak are not good for dogs. please don't use these

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by kalina82

Pepto Bismol and Kaopeptak are not good for dogs. please don't use these

I disagree.

Pepto is fine for dogs - every vet I've ever known recommends it for home use.

It's also recommended for Police Dogs Kits - in fact, this was provided by the Cincinnati Veterinary Association for the police department and includes Pepto and Kaopectate: YOUR PETS HOME EMERGENCY KIT

Here is a link to another vet practice that recommends both: OTC Medications

I've never met a vet in my 40 years who has said don't use Pepto.

[tiggerr36792]

Originally Posted by kalina82

Pepto Bismol and Kaopeptak are not good for dogs. please don't use these

I have to say that I disagree also. I have used both of these on my dogs and they did just fine. My vet recommended using them and I do trust her.

[kalina82]

all i know is that there is a huge sign in hosp by the phones that say when taking to an owner about diarhhea do not recommend those two medications.

some vets also say is ok to give asprin as pain management and that's a bad thing to do as well.

[kalina82]

Pepto Bismol (kaopectate) has an asprin like property to it. this is why its not recommended for use. Bismuth Subsalicylate (Pepto-Bismol®, Kaopectate®)

it can also have effects on other medications being taken.
it can thin the blood
it may not be doing any good at all, and therefore your just giving your dog something it doesn't need.

asprin is the main concern. it is a blood thinner. If what your dog has is worse then an upset stomach the asprin is going to effect blood results and bleeding time when taken to the vet.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by kalina82

Pepto Bismol (kaopectate) has an asprin like property to it. this is why its not recommended for use. Bismuth Subsalicylate (Pepto-Bismol®, Kaopectate®)

it can also have effects on other medications being taken.
it can thin the blood

asprin is the main concern. it is a blood thinner. If what your dog has is worse then an upset stomach the asprin is going to effect blood results and bleeding time when taken to the vet.

Aspirin can also be safely given to dogs and is recommended by vets, my own included. It is also in the links above. Either way, Pepto doesn't "contain" aspirin anyway, it's a subsalicylate.

As far as being an anticoagulant, aspirin is really quite benign and not much of a player in those dosages. The only time it'd potentially be a concern is if a dog was already on a prescription anticoagulant. And Pepto shouldn't affect bleeding times.

[emilyann]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Aspirin can also be safely given to dogs and is recommended by vets, my own included. It is also in the links above. Either way, Pepto doesn't "contain" aspirin anyway, it's a subsalicylate.

As far as being an anticoagulant, aspirin is really quite benign and not much of a player in those dosages. The only time it'd potentially be a concern is if a dog was already on a prescription anticoagulant. And Pepto shouldn't affect bleeding times.

Ahh Ann, you're so smart. You never cease to amaze me with your doggy knowledge!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by emilyann

Ahh Ann, you're so smart. You never cease to amaze me with your doggy knowledge!

Aw, lol ! I'm not sure it's smarts, but you're sweet!

It just concerns me, as a nurse, when some say (and this is not directed at any one person) dogs shouldn't have this or that, for home care. I mean - look how many home remedies we have for our own home-self-care of for that of human babies - it's almost limitless. I think our dogs deserve and need, as creatures in our care, access to safe home remedies. For us humans, there are times when we need our home medicines and don't need to go to the doctor - it is no different for our dogs. And I think it's our duty as dog owners to learn about these remedies.

In the medical field, we'd never tell our patients "don't take aspirin at home bc it'll interfere with bleeding time" (using the above example). If a person needs aspirin, take it. And then that info is given in the medical history - it's pretty simple. And, you can account for it in any blood sample as well.

I think people should ask themselves: for non-emergent situations, what might be some of the real reasons vets are so opposed to home remedies for pets?

Personally, I'm kind of suspicious of vets who say "don't give any home meds, period" - bc either 1) they assume I can't care for my pet for the simplest issue or 2) they're trying to drive office visits. These vets are often the ones who might also push yearly vaccines. The vets I've used for my own pets (the ones with whom I'm comfortable, that is) have all confirmed the safety of the home remedies I use for babies, for whatever that's worth.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I disagree.

Pepto is fine for dogs - every vet I've ever known recommends it for home use.

It's also recommended for Police Dogs Kits - in fact, this was provided by the Cincinnati Veterinary Association for the police department and includes Pepto and Kaopectate: YOUR PETS HOME EMERGENCY KIT

Here is a link to another vet practice that recommends both: OTC Medications

I've never met a vet in my 40 years who has said don't use Pepto.

My Vet said its fine to use pepto but not kaopectate

[kalina82]

I see the effects of pepto, asprin and kaopectate on a first hand basis all the time at work. Sure if its a one time thing you can use these products in a pinch. I never would though. I know what can happen. i've seen animals died on the surgery table that needed immediate surgery because they were hit by a car or something like that. These clients aren't expecting their animals to have to go to surgery any time soon so they give aspirin for joint problems or kaopectate for stomach problems. little do they know they have added a certain percentage of failure to their pets surgery all because their vet said it was ok.

All i'm saying is that speaking for lots of experience i would never give my pet these medications because i have seen what can happen. No one expects anything freakish to happen to their pet that requires immediate medical care but there is always a chance. this is JMO and others can make their own choices.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by kalina82

These clients aren't expecting their animals to have to go to surgery any time soon so they give aspirin for joint problems or kaopectate for stomach problems.

Again, this is like saying a human should never ever take aspirin, maalox, or any other home medication on the off chance that they may have an emergency.

A good surgeon knows how to mitigate the effects of home medications and deals with it all the time. If they can't, why are they still doing surgeries....???

I really don't mean to be argumentative here, Kellie, but I just don't understand the logic of letting animals suffer on the off chance that there could be an emergency instead of alleviating their pain through using aspirin or a tummy med - just as we would for a HUMAN.

I would choose to alleviate the animal's pain. Just my opinion.

[kalina82]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Again, this is like saying a human should never ever take aspirin, maalox, or any other home medication on the off chance that they may have an emergency.

A good surgeon knows how to mitigate the effects of home medications and deals with it all the time. If they can't, why are they still doing surgeries....???

I really don't mean to be argumentative here, Kellie, but I just don't understand the logic of letting animals suffer on the off chance that there could be an emergency instead of alleviating their pain through using aspirin or a tummy med - just as we would for a HUMAN.

I would choose to alleviate the animal's pain. Just my opinion.

i agree with alleviating their pain. I don't want any animal to suffer. I just prefer to do it the correct way.